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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/06/candace-owens-has-a-message/#comment-2500383</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 14:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Candace was better on the vaccine subject. SHe is too biased, in the other direction, for old George there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candace was better on the vaccine subject. SHe is too biased, in the other direction, for old George there.</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/06/candace-owens-has-a-message/#comment-2500381</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 14:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus, the world is not going to end, so sayeth Ymar. Also, for those that made it through to 2021, utopia will be there to greet them.

They just have to go through the spring cleaning of 2020, where all the dark stuff hiding underneath needs to be exposed to the light. THis causes a &quot;shock&quot; in the system of the insects, and they scurry around. Just got to eliminate them first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus, the world is not going to end, so sayeth Ymar. Also, for those that made it through to 2021, utopia will be there to greet them.</p>
<p>They just have to go through the spring cleaning of 2020, where all the dark stuff hiding underneath needs to be exposed to the light. THis causes a &#8220;shock&#8221; in the system of the insects, and they scurry around. Just got to eliminate them first.</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/06/candace-owens-has-a-message/#comment-2500364</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 12:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Of course the demonrats endorse antifa, letting their own cities burn, thinking this will harm the Demon Trump and the hated white devils who support him. Yawn, another day ending in y.&lt;/b&gt;

You are mostly right, X. Although I am biased towards the Demoncrat term.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Of course the demonrats endorse antifa, letting their own cities burn, thinking this will harm the Demon Trump and the hated white devils who support him. Yawn, another day ending in y.</b></p>
<p>You are mostly right, X. Although I am biased towards the Demoncrat term.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/06/candace-owens-has-a-message/#comment-2500312</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 23:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Grey,

&lt;blockquote&gt;I wish Trump would start saying: “The protesters are angry enough to protest, but not angry enough to vote for the other party in their cities and states.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Brilliant!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Grey,</p>
<blockquote><p>I wish Trump would start saying: “The protesters are angry enough to protest, but not angry enough to vote for the other party in their cities and states.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Brilliant!</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/06/candace-owens-has-a-message/#comment-2500255</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I now like Trump.  But I&#039;m seeing more insults from and to MBunge than arguments for or against specific policies.  If the main Bunge critique is that many Rep voters were unhappy with known GOPe politicians, that&#039;s a critique I agree with.

Had my second choice Rep Ted Cruz been the candidate (first choice was Carly Fiorina), I now think he would have lost, failing to get many Rust Belt ex-Dems to vote for him, despite keeping most of the GOPe (establishment Reps, tho they didn&#039;t like Cruz, either).

Lots of GOPe folk &quot;talked&quot; about ending/ reducing illegal immigration - Trump was most strong, most clear, most believable ... and he mostly delivered.

All GOPe talk about lower taxes -- Trump delivered.  With a LOT of help from Paul Ryan &#038; the GOP House majority, which seemed to do little else. Certainly failed to end the Russian Collusion Hoax before the 2018 election. Also NO Congressional money for the Wall 2017-2018. Big mistakes.

Trump did deregulation. Trump got far more conservative judges confirmed (McConnell gets LOTS of credit here, not much credit for other things not done). 

Lots of Reps were disenchanted with GOPe, and even with politics.  Trump energized a lot of less elite pro-American folk.

I used to think Trump&#039;s Big Fat Mouth on Twitter was a problem.  Now I think it&#039;s effective at showing how often, and how deep, the Establishment State is the problem.  Mostly Dem, but with many &quot;successful&quot; Reps going along, like tax funding Planned Parenthood, so as to get along.

Vote Dem -
Get Dem radical left policies
A new(ish for me) blog, Jon Turley, talks about defunding the police. As Minneapolis is discussing:
&quot;https://jonathanturley.org/2020/06/08/minneapolis-leader-fear-about-dismantling-the-police-department-is-just-another-example-of-privilege/#more-158051 
&lt;i&gt;The city council now appears to have a veto proof majority to dismantle the police department. Other jurisdictions are considering similar moves and Los Angeles just announced a major cut in funding.  Again, the silence of other politicians is perfectly deafening as they try to avoid any public criticism or conflict with the most radical elements of this movement.  &lt;/i&gt;

Those who vote Dem are empowering the radicals, whom &quot;moderate Dems&quot; are unwilling to oppose.  If you have Dem friends, they should be laughed at -- for supporting the racist party that wants to dismantle police forces and allow greater black on black crime.

See Baltimore trends for what is being desired.

I wish Trump would start saying: &quot;The protesters are angry enough to protest, but not angry enough to vote for the other party in their cities and states.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now like Trump.  But I&#8217;m seeing more insults from and to MBunge than arguments for or against specific policies.  If the main Bunge critique is that many Rep voters were unhappy with known GOPe politicians, that&#8217;s a critique I agree with.</p>
<p>Had my second choice Rep Ted Cruz been the candidate (first choice was Carly Fiorina), I now think he would have lost, failing to get many Rust Belt ex-Dems to vote for him, despite keeping most of the GOPe (establishment Reps, tho they didn&#8217;t like Cruz, either).</p>
<p>Lots of GOPe folk &#8220;talked&#8221; about ending/ reducing illegal immigration &#8211; Trump was most strong, most clear, most believable &#8230; and he mostly delivered.</p>
<p>All GOPe talk about lower taxes &#8212; Trump delivered.  With a LOT of help from Paul Ryan &amp; the GOP House majority, which seemed to do little else. Certainly failed to end the Russian Collusion Hoax before the 2018 election. Also NO Congressional money for the Wall 2017-2018. Big mistakes.</p>
<p>Trump did deregulation. Trump got far more conservative judges confirmed (McConnell gets LOTS of credit here, not much credit for other things not done). </p>
<p>Lots of Reps were disenchanted with GOPe, and even with politics.  Trump energized a lot of less elite pro-American folk.</p>
<p>I used to think Trump&#8217;s Big Fat Mouth on Twitter was a problem.  Now I think it&#8217;s effective at showing how often, and how deep, the Establishment State is the problem.  Mostly Dem, but with many &#8220;successful&#8221; Reps going along, like tax funding Planned Parenthood, so as to get along.</p>
<p>Vote Dem &#8211;<br />
Get Dem radical left policies<br />
A new(ish for me) blog, Jon Turley, talks about defunding the police. As Minneapolis is discussing:<br />
&#8220;https://jonathanturley.org/2020/06/08/minneapolis-leader-fear-about-dismantling-the-police-department-is-just-another-example-of-privilege/#more-158051<br />
<i>The city council now appears to have a veto proof majority to dismantle the police department. Other jurisdictions are considering similar moves and Los Angeles just announced a major cut in funding.  Again, the silence of other politicians is perfectly deafening as they try to avoid any public criticism or conflict with the most radical elements of this movement.  </i></p>
<p>Those who vote Dem are empowering the radicals, whom &#8220;moderate Dems&#8221; are unwilling to oppose.  If you have Dem friends, they should be laughed at &#8212; for supporting the racist party that wants to dismantle police forces and allow greater black on black crime.</p>
<p>See Baltimore trends for what is being desired.</p>
<p>I wish Trump would start saying: &#8220;The protesters are angry enough to protest, but not angry enough to vote for the other party in their cities and states.&#8221;</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/06/candace-owens-has-a-message/#comment-2500231</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 17:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Bunge:

You personify nonsense and projection.  Keep the rant going, they are tiresome, you just change out the strawman from time to time. Whatever.  And then talk to me  about &quot;some other guyism&quot; LOL Mike.  

You are saying President Trump is the problem it seems.  Those other guys lost in 2016 for various reasons.  Go cry about it with Joanah Goldberg (concern troll). ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Bunge:</p>
<p>You personify nonsense and projection.  Keep the rant going, they are tiresome, you just change out the strawman from time to time. Whatever.  And then talk to me  about &#8220;some other guyism&#8221; LOL Mike.  </p>
<p>You are saying President Trump is the problem it seems.  Those other guys lost in 2016 for various reasons.  Go cry about it with Joanah Goldberg (concern troll). 😉</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/06/candace-owens-has-a-message/#comment-2500228</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 16:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Are you a closeted never-Trumper just waiting to come out?&quot;


So, the guy who has a hissy fit when I criticize Paul Ryan and then pointedly refuses to explain how anything I said was incorrect continues with his &quot;What about that guy?!?!&quot; nonsense.

And here&#039;s another lesson.  When everyone is saying &quot;X,&quot; you don&#039;t need to jump in and say the same thing everyone else is.  That doesn&#039;t add anything to the discussion.  There&#039;s LOTS of people here and elsewhere commenting on how awful the Left is and how much they&#039;re to blame for our current situation.  But if the only problem in America was the Left, Jeb Bush would be President right now, or Marco Rubio or Scott Walker.  Donald Trump in the White House is as much a rebuke to the Right as it is to the Left.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are you a closeted never-Trumper just waiting to come out?&#8221;</p>
<p>So, the guy who has a hissy fit when I criticize Paul Ryan and then pointedly refuses to explain how anything I said was incorrect continues with his &#8220;What about that guy?!?!&#8221; nonsense.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s another lesson.  When everyone is saying &#8220;X,&#8221; you don&#8217;t need to jump in and say the same thing everyone else is.  That doesn&#8217;t add anything to the discussion.  There&#8217;s LOTS of people here and elsewhere commenting on how awful the Left is and how much they&#8217;re to blame for our current situation.  But if the only problem in America was the Left, Jeb Bush would be President right now, or Marco Rubio or Scott Walker.  Donald Trump in the White House is as much a rebuke to the Right as it is to the Left.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/06/candace-owens-has-a-message/#comment-2500227</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 16:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Cool&quot; instead of &quot;Virtuous&quot;.

Christian Capitalist civilization is based on virtues.  Best list for men comes from the Boy Scouts (I&#039;m a Life Scout, less than Eagle tho I got all needed merit badges):
Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, Reverent.

But Boy Scouts, as teens, don&#039;t get laid as often as the cool rebels.  Those with or without a cause.  

Then the 60s revolutions: in sex roles (The Pill! Unsatisfied housewives );
Civil Rights for Blacks (Act in 1964), &quot;Black&quot; instead of &quot;Negro&quot;, integration;
Vietnam, fighting and dying but not to win (bombing but no invasion of N. Vietnam), draft and draft dodging, and stronger anti-establishment protests;
Great Music!  Rock &#039;n Roll, British Invasion, electric guitars, AM &#038; FM radio.

Cool is ... cool, but following all the rules all the time is less fun, and less cool.  But better for materialistic civilization.
Sex only in marriage is better for material civilization, but mostly happens among high IQ college grads and low IQ religious folk.
When the college folk idolize the cool, promiscuous guys, many non-college folk have more sex outside of marriage, and both more abortions AND more unmarried mothers raising kids.

77% of black kids not being raised by married mother &#038; fathers?  That&#039;s what can destroy civilization; that&#039;s not racism, it&#039;s &quot;cool&quot; over &quot;virtue&quot;.  And most college grads practice monogamy and raise kids who live with married parents.
Yet they preach far more promiscuity than they practice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cool&#8221; instead of &#8220;Virtuous&#8221;.</p>
<p>Christian Capitalist civilization is based on virtues.  Best list for men comes from the Boy Scouts (I&#8217;m a Life Scout, less than Eagle tho I got all needed merit badges):<br />
Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, Reverent.</p>
<p>But Boy Scouts, as teens, don&#8217;t get laid as often as the cool rebels.  Those with or without a cause.  </p>
<p>Then the 60s revolutions: in sex roles (The Pill! Unsatisfied housewives );<br />
Civil Rights for Blacks (Act in 1964), &#8220;Black&#8221; instead of &#8220;Negro&#8221;, integration;<br />
Vietnam, fighting and dying but not to win (bombing but no invasion of N. Vietnam), draft and draft dodging, and stronger anti-establishment protests;<br />
Great Music!  Rock &#8216;n Roll, British Invasion, electric guitars, AM &amp; FM radio.</p>
<p>Cool is &#8230; cool, but following all the rules all the time is less fun, and less cool.  But better for materialistic civilization.<br />
Sex only in marriage is better for material civilization, but mostly happens among high IQ college grads and low IQ religious folk.<br />
When the college folk idolize the cool, promiscuous guys, many non-college folk have more sex outside of marriage, and both more abortions AND more unmarried mothers raising kids.</p>
<p>77% of black kids not being raised by married mother &amp; fathers?  That&#8217;s what can destroy civilization; that&#8217;s not racism, it&#8217;s &#8220;cool&#8221; over &#8220;virtue&#8221;.  And most college grads practice monogamy and raise kids who live with married parents.<br />
Yet they preach far more promiscuity than they practice.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those who vote for Democrats vote to favor the BLM slogans, as implemented.
&lt;i&gt;&quot;what I tried to say is that while BLM may have become part of the mainstream within the party of the Democrats it does not mean the majority of Democrats who vote for Democrats are in support of BLM in anymore than a slogan or two. I would disagree about antifa being the mainstream of the party. Definitely not the mainstream of voters. That would mean more than 65 million voters. I would doubt 65 million people could even define what antifa means or what exactly it stands for other than anarchy in the name of justice.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You don&#039;t get to choose &quot;just the good parts&quot; of the party you vote for.  In fact, all of society is stuck with the bad parts of whichever party gets power.  When I voted Libertarian, which virtually never got power, neither I nor society was stuck with the worst parts.  Similarly those who voted Green.  For third parties, you can vote for the good parts.

Whether or not antifa, or Green Nude Eel, is part of the mainstream of the &quot;party&quot;, meaning the voters, is not so important.  The policies implemented by those getting power is what happens with the laws, and their interpretation.  The sexual harassment and discrimination against white male conservatives is allowed, according to official gov&#039;t National Labor Relations Board and its argument against Damore&#039;s discrimination suit.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/16/17021714/james-damore-google-nlrb-complaint-diversity-discrimination 

&quot;Democrats&quot; in power today are making the &quot;leftist&quot; policies that are made.   &lt;b&gt;Nobody votes &quot;Left&quot;, they vote Democrat.&lt;/b&gt;  If they believe in the Democrat policies, based on leftist Fake truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who vote for Democrats vote to favor the BLM slogans, as implemented.<br />
<i>&#8220;what I tried to say is that while BLM may have become part of the mainstream within the party of the Democrats it does not mean the majority of Democrats who vote for Democrats are in support of BLM in anymore than a slogan or two. I would disagree about antifa being the mainstream of the party. Definitely not the mainstream of voters. That would mean more than 65 million voters. I would doubt 65 million people could even define what antifa means or what exactly it stands for other than anarchy in the name of justice.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get to choose &#8220;just the good parts&#8221; of the party you vote for.  In fact, all of society is stuck with the bad parts of whichever party gets power.  When I voted Libertarian, which virtually never got power, neither I nor society was stuck with the worst parts.  Similarly those who voted Green.  For third parties, you can vote for the good parts.</p>
<p>Whether or not antifa, or Green Nude Eel, is part of the mainstream of the &#8220;party&#8221;, meaning the voters, is not so important.  The policies implemented by those getting power is what happens with the laws, and their interpretation.  The sexual harassment and discrimination against white male conservatives is allowed, according to official gov&#8217;t National Labor Relations Board and its argument against Damore&#8217;s discrimination suit.<br />
<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/16/17021714/james-damore-google-nlrb-complaint-diversity-discrimination" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/16/17021714/james-damore-google-nlrb-complaint-diversity-discrimination</a> </p>
<p>&#8220;Democrats&#8221; in power today are making the &#8220;leftist&#8221; policies that are made.   <b>Nobody votes &#8220;Left&#8221;, they vote Democrat.</b>  If they believe in the Democrat policies, based on leftist Fake truth.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 13:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan,

When I wrote that statement I did think about idolization of criminals of all skin tones; there are too many movies to count, but I didn&#039;t elaborate since Candace was speaking specifically about an ongoing trend in the black community. Although I&#039;m sure shows like &quot;The Sopranos&quot; and the Godfather movies are as good as everyone states, and I understand the Mafia is used by scriptwriters as a convenient prop to elaborate on human nature and the human condition; I typically don&#039;t waste my time on such fare. I grew up around the mob in Chicago and they are, by and large, thugs, bozos. Immature, selfish and cruel.

It&#039;s interesting to occasionally examine that side of human nature, but I much prefer celebrating folks who do moral and ethic good for humanity in spite of difficult surroundings. In that regard I am certainly sympatico with Ms. Owens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan,</p>
<p>When I wrote that statement I did think about idolization of criminals of all skin tones; there are too many movies to count, but I didn&#8217;t elaborate since Candace was speaking specifically about an ongoing trend in the black community. Although I&#8217;m sure shows like &#8220;The Sopranos&#8221; and the Godfather movies are as good as everyone states, and I understand the Mafia is used by scriptwriters as a convenient prop to elaborate on human nature and the human condition; I typically don&#8217;t waste my time on such fare. I grew up around the mob in Chicago and they are, by and large, thugs, bozos. Immature, selfish and cruel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to occasionally examine that side of human nature, but I much prefer celebrating folks who do moral and ethic good for humanity in spite of difficult surroundings. In that regard I am certainly sympatico with Ms. Owens.</p>
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