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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/02/it-will-be-this-way-from-now-till-the-election-and-probably-beyond/#comment-2499533</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2020 08:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PowerLine  - 
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/mattis-mush.php
&quot;Mattis states: “We do not need to militarize our response to protests.” We didn’t. The military was deployed in response to riots.

In Washington, D.C., the local police, guardsmen, and secret service members were outnumbered and outmatched by Antifa agitators and their thug shock troops. According to this report, more than 60 US Secret Service Uniformed Division officers and special agents were injured between Friday night and Sunday morning near the White House. They were injured because some protesters threw projectiles such as bricks, rocks, bottles, and fireworks at them. In addition, personnel reportedly were directly physically assaulted — kicked, punched and exposed to bodily fluids.

If Mattis considers attacks on Secret Service a mere distraction, he’s become too clueless to be taken seriously. Maybe we should be thankful he’s no longer our Secretary of Defense.

Mattis also sniffs, “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try.” But Trump’s response to recent events is what, broadly speaking, we should want from a president. He condemned the killing of George Floyd, calling it a tragedy, and members of his Department of Justice have been assigned to Minnesota to investigate. When rioting broke out, he condemned the rioters, urged mayors and governors to protect American citizens effectively, and deployed a small military presence to protect the nation’s capital.

American should be able to unite behind this response. It’s not Trump’s fault that we can’t.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PowerLine  &#8211;<br />
<a href="https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/mattis-mush.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/mattis-mush.php</a><br />
&#8220;Mattis states: “We do not need to militarize our response to protests.” We didn’t. The military was deployed in response to riots.</p>
<p>In Washington, D.C., the local police, guardsmen, and secret service members were outnumbered and outmatched by Antifa agitators and their thug shock troops. According to this report, more than 60 US Secret Service Uniformed Division officers and special agents were injured between Friday night and Sunday morning near the White House. They were injured because some protesters threw projectiles such as bricks, rocks, bottles, and fireworks at them. In addition, personnel reportedly were directly physically assaulted — kicked, punched and exposed to bodily fluids.</p>
<p>If Mattis considers attacks on Secret Service a mere distraction, he’s become too clueless to be taken seriously. Maybe we should be thankful he’s no longer our Secretary of Defense.</p>
<p>Mattis also sniffs, “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try.” But Trump’s response to recent events is what, broadly speaking, we should want from a president. He condemned the killing of George Floyd, calling it a tragedy, and members of his Department of Justice have been assigned to Minnesota to investigate. When rioting broke out, he condemned the rioters, urged mayors and governors to protect American citizens effectively, and deployed a small military presence to protect the nation’s capital.</p>
<p>American should be able to unite behind this response. It’s not Trump’s fault that we can’t.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/02/it-will-be-this-way-from-now-till-the-election-and-probably-beyond/#comment-2499522</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2020 06:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And that Democrat fainting-couch-bit about it not being cricket to use military against citizens is rubbish -- 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/02/mayor-de-blasio-used-national-guard-to-quarantine-neighborhoods-during-virus-now-refuses-national-guard-to-prevent-mob-violence-looting-and-arson/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that Democrat fainting-couch-bit about it not being cricket to use military against citizens is rubbish &#8212; </p>
<p><a href="https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/02/mayor-de-blasio-used-national-guard-to-quarantine-neighborhoods-during-virus-now-refuses-national-guard-to-prevent-mob-violence-looting-and-arson/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/02/mayor-de-blasio-used-national-guard-to-quarantine-neighborhoods-during-virus-now-refuses-national-guard-to-prevent-mob-violence-looting-and-arson/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/02/it-will-be-this-way-from-now-till-the-election-and-probably-beyond/#comment-2499491</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2020 03:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bryan - when I first learned about the Peter Principle, in the seventies, I realized that it meant that NEARLY ALL of our top leaders in business, community, and government eventually are in over their heads.

https://ricochet.com/764334/james-mattis-compares-donald-trump-to-nazis-in-statement-to-the-atlantic/
By Max Ledoux June 3, 2020
&lt;blockquote&gt;In his statement, written for a liberal audience, Mattis also downplays the violent riots that have spread across our nation as “a small number of lawbreakers” that we should “not be distracted by.” Mattis’s screed was inspired by what he called “a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.” And he further stated, “We must reject any thinking of our cities as a ‘battlespace’ that our uniformed military is called upon to ‘dominate.’ “

However, 58% of registered voters in a Morning Consult poll out today disagree with Mattis and would support using the military to supplement police forces against radical Left rioters and looters. The poll was taken May 31 – June 1 as the riots were destroying American cities.
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There is a long history of using the military in extraordinary circumstances on domestic soil.

George Washington, our first president, led an army of states militia to quell the Whiskey Rebellion in 1794. Abraham Lincoln, our first Republican president, used the military to win a civil war and free the slaves. (Mattis says we should only deploy troops when requested to do so by state governors, but I doubt that would have worked out well in 1861.)

Dwight Eisenhower, who led the Normandy invasion, sent the 101st Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR, to enforce the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education. John F. Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard to force the state’s Democrat governor George Wallace to desegregate the University of Alabama.

Lyndon Johnson sent the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions to Detroit to put down the 1967 riots (with the aid of the Michigan National Guard, which was sent by Gov. George Romney). Likewise, George H.W. Bush federalized the California National Guard and supplemented them with the 7th Infantry Division and the Marines (commanded by Mattis’s former Trump Administration colleague, John Kelly).

There may be other examples, those are just the ones I thought of off the top of my head (and then did some research about).

An Emerson College poll also out today finds that 76% of registered voters disapprove of the riots, apparently not realizing that they are being perpetrated by “a small number of lawbreakers” only. At the same time 87% of registered voters want to see justice for George Floyd in the form of criminal charges against the officer, Derek Chauvin, who appears to have callously killed him. (I watched the video, it’s abhorrent.) In fact, Chauvin has been arrested and charged with murder. That has not stopped the riots. Perhaps the “small number of lawbreakers” have not been watching the news since they have been too busy kicking unconscious people in the head, murdering black police officers, and stealing designer clothes.

I am confident Mattis is someone who should be listened to when it comes to the most effective way to mobilize the military against al-Qaeda or ISIS. His military career is exemplary. &lt;b&gt;As a political commentator, however, his opinion is no different from that of any number of NeverTrumpers, especially when he falsely compares the president of the United States so directly to Nazis. That is not the statement of a wise leader.&lt;/b&gt;

His full statement is below:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan &#8211; when I first learned about the Peter Principle, in the seventies, I realized that it meant that NEARLY ALL of our top leaders in business, community, and government eventually are in over their heads.</p>
<p><a href="https://ricochet.com/764334/james-mattis-compares-donald-trump-to-nazis-in-statement-to-the-atlantic/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ricochet.com/764334/james-mattis-compares-donald-trump-to-nazis-in-statement-to-the-atlantic/</a><br />
By Max Ledoux June 3, 2020</p>
<blockquote><p>In his statement, written for a liberal audience, Mattis also downplays the violent riots that have spread across our nation as “a small number of lawbreakers” that we should “not be distracted by.” Mattis’s screed was inspired by what he called “a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.” And he further stated, “We must reject any thinking of our cities as a ‘battlespace’ that our uniformed military is called upon to ‘dominate.’ “</p>
<p>However, 58% of registered voters in a Morning Consult poll out today disagree with Mattis and would support using the military to supplement police forces against radical Left rioters and looters. The poll was taken May 31 – June 1 as the riots were destroying American cities.<br />
&#8230;<br />
There is a long history of using the military in extraordinary circumstances on domestic soil.</p>
<p>George Washington, our first president, led an army of states militia to quell the Whiskey Rebellion in 1794. Abraham Lincoln, our first Republican president, used the military to win a civil war and free the slaves. (Mattis says we should only deploy troops when requested to do so by state governors, but I doubt that would have worked out well in 1861.)</p>
<p>Dwight Eisenhower, who led the Normandy invasion, sent the 101st Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR, to enforce the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education. John F. Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard to force the state’s Democrat governor George Wallace to desegregate the University of Alabama.</p>
<p>Lyndon Johnson sent the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions to Detroit to put down the 1967 riots (with the aid of the Michigan National Guard, which was sent by Gov. George Romney). Likewise, George H.W. Bush federalized the California National Guard and supplemented them with the 7th Infantry Division and the Marines (commanded by Mattis’s former Trump Administration colleague, John Kelly).</p>
<p>There may be other examples, those are just the ones I thought of off the top of my head (and then did some research about).</p>
<p>An Emerson College poll also out today finds that 76% of registered voters disapprove of the riots, apparently not realizing that they are being perpetrated by “a small number of lawbreakers” only. At the same time 87% of registered voters want to see justice for George Floyd in the form of criminal charges against the officer, Derek Chauvin, who appears to have callously killed him. (I watched the video, it’s abhorrent.) In fact, Chauvin has been arrested and charged with murder. That has not stopped the riots. Perhaps the “small number of lawbreakers” have not been watching the news since they have been too busy kicking unconscious people in the head, murdering black police officers, and stealing designer clothes.</p>
<p>I am confident Mattis is someone who should be listened to when it comes to the most effective way to mobilize the military against al-Qaeda or ISIS. His military career is exemplary. <b>As a political commentator, however, his opinion is no different from that of any number of NeverTrumpers, especially when he falsely compares the president of the United States so directly to Nazis. That is not the statement of a wise leader.</b></p>
<p>His full statement is below:
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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2020 02:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I greatly admired Mattis as a general and leader, but I think SecDef was his Peter Principle. He was probably better staying at a level where he was constrained by the tradition of not getting involved in politics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I greatly admired Mattis as a general and leader, but I think SecDef was his Peter Principle. He was probably better staying at a level where he was constrained by the tradition of not getting involved in politics.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/06/02/it-will-be-this-way-from-now-till-the-election-and-probably-beyond/#comment-2499357</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 20:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try.&quot; - Mattis

Obama is not the only Democrat with a blindspot -- and it&#039;s not really a blindspot at all; they know what they are saying.

Note that in the excerpt linked, Mattis clearly conflates the legitimate (mostly black) peaceful protesters and the illegitimate (mostly white) violent rioters.
And pretends Trump wants to attack the former, when he is clearly referring to the latter.

Charlottesville propaganda on steroids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try.&#8221; &#8211; Mattis</p>
<p>Obama is not the only Democrat with a blindspot &#8212; and it&#8217;s not really a blindspot at all; they know what they are saying.</p>
<p>Note that in the excerpt linked, Mattis clearly conflates the legitimate (mostly black) peaceful protesters and the illegitimate (mostly white) violent rioters.<br />
And pretends Trump wants to attack the former, when he is clearly referring to the latter.</p>
<p>Charlottesville propaganda on steroids.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 18:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine:

Yes, if it wasn&#039;t for feet of clay most of them would have no feet at all.

No wonder Diogenes went around with that lamp for a long, long time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>Yes, if it wasn&#8217;t for feet of clay most of them would have no feet at all.</p>
<p>No wonder Diogenes went around with that lamp for a long, long time.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 13:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t even begin to count the number of prominent, and supposedly hugely impressive and talented people who, in the last several years, have been praised to the skies by the MSM and others--and were appointed to the Trump Administration--only to turn out to be huge disappointments--and nowhere near as impressive, as knowledgeable, as Conservative, as able, or as wise as they were made out to be.

Now we see why President Trump fired his former Secretary of Defense, General Mattis.

I can&#039;t imagine how someone who is touted as a true American patriot, as a very successful war fighter and high ranking military officer, can have such a warped, leftist view of history and the world. 

Perhaps, if Marine General Mattis&#039; statement and viewpoint are any indication,  the rot may run a lot deeper than I thought in our military.

See  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/former-trump-secdef-mattis-joins-resistance-blasts-president-handling-riots-nazi-slur/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t even begin to count the number of prominent, and supposedly hugely impressive and talented people who, in the last several years, have been praised to the skies by the MSM and others&#8211;and were appointed to the Trump Administration&#8211;only to turn out to be huge disappointments&#8211;and nowhere near as impressive, as knowledgeable, as Conservative, as able, or as wise as they were made out to be.</p>
<p>Now we see why President Trump fired his former Secretary of Defense, General Mattis.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine how someone who is touted as a true American patriot, as a very successful war fighter and high ranking military officer, can have such a warped, leftist view of history and the world. </p>
<p>Perhaps, if Marine General Mattis&#8217; statement and viewpoint are any indication,  the rot may run a lot deeper than I thought in our military.</p>
<p>See  <a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/former-trump-secdef-mattis-joins-resistance-blasts-president-handling-riots-nazi-slur/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/former-trump-secdef-mattis-joins-resistance-blasts-president-handling-riots-nazi-slur/</a></p>
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		By: Dick Illyes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 12:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xennady is correct.  This is not the activity of winners.  Winners wrap up their wins with legislation and filling the bureaucracy with their people.  Neo is also correct, there is no end in sight and the election won&#039;t quiet them down.

This is a Blue Bubble phenomena that is more extreme because they are losing the normal people who would be a check on the types that are doing the damage.  The absence of normal people has allowed them to act out their fantasies without restraint.  

The Blue Bubble unionized cities are lost.  They will end up like much of the South after the Civil War, desolate wastelands for decades with occupants at subsistence level, avoided and ignored as nearby areas flourish and the self-sufficient leave.  Detriots and Baltimores, constantly electing incompetent leaders and hopelessly corrupt.  

The communications revolution is changing everything.  Musk&#039;s Starlink is going live this fall bringing broadband Internet everywhere.  Cities are obsolete.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xennady is correct.  This is not the activity of winners.  Winners wrap up their wins with legislation and filling the bureaucracy with their people.  Neo is also correct, there is no end in sight and the election won&#8217;t quiet them down.</p>
<p>This is a Blue Bubble phenomena that is more extreme because they are losing the normal people who would be a check on the types that are doing the damage.  The absence of normal people has allowed them to act out their fantasies without restraint.  </p>
<p>The Blue Bubble unionized cities are lost.  They will end up like much of the South after the Civil War, desolate wastelands for decades with occupants at subsistence level, avoided and ignored as nearby areas flourish and the self-sufficient leave.  Detriots and Baltimores, constantly electing incompetent leaders and hopelessly corrupt.  </p>
<p>The communications revolution is changing everything.  Musk&#8217;s Starlink is going live this fall bringing broadband Internet everywhere.  Cities are obsolete.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 05:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay - I found another guy at NR who seems to have his head on straight.
Don&#039;t remember reading his posts before.
It&#039;s a good analysis of why the Democrat cities seem to be the hotspot for police abuse and &quot;racism&quot; -- police unions bribe politicians to overlook problems.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/obamas-blindspot-on-police-unions-and-police-abuse/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=blog-post&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=more-in&#038;utm_term=first]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay &#8211; I found another guy at NR who seems to have his head on straight.<br />
Don&#8217;t remember reading his posts before.<br />
It&#8217;s a good analysis of why the Democrat cities seem to be the hotspot for police abuse and &#8220;racism&#8221; &#8212; police unions bribe politicians to overlook problems.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/obamas-blindspot-on-police-unions-and-police-abuse/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=blog-post&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=more-in&#038;utm_term=first" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/obamas-blindspot-on-police-unions-and-police-abuse/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=blog-post&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=more-in&#038;utm_term=first</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 04:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK -VDH is also on my list, but he writes for several other publications now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK -VDH is also on my list, but he writes for several other publications now.</p>
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