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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/30/the-release-of-the-flynn-kislyak-transcripts/#comment-2498203</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 22:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yammer:

Ponder glass houses and stones, glass houses and stones, or motes and planks. There is a message there for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yammer:</p>
<p>Ponder glass houses and stones, glass houses and stones, or motes and planks. There is a message there for you.</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/30/the-release-of-the-flynn-kislyak-transcripts/#comment-2498200</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 21:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Oh, there’s a simple way to say it, all right.

But there’s no simple way to prove it&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, but the messaging is important for the political side of it, especially if the actual investigations drag on. Trump does some of this in his tweets, but the small sliver of the media that is not hard left/DNC mouthpieces has to push the simple message so it resonates with the public--or at least the 60% of voters who might be open to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh, there’s a simple way to say it, all right.</p>
<p>But there’s no simple way to prove it</i></p>
<p>Yes, but the messaging is important for the political side of it, especially if the actual investigations drag on. Trump does some of this in his tweets, but the small sliver of the media that is not hard left/DNC mouthpieces has to push the simple message so it resonates with the public&#8211;or at least the 60% of voters who might be open to it.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/30/the-release-of-the-flynn-kislyak-transcripts/#comment-2498192</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune

What happens when Hussein is dead and gone, who are you going to blame for all the problems facilitated by yourself and others?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray Van Dune</p>
<p>What happens when Hussein is dead and gone, who are you going to blame for all the problems facilitated by yourself and others?</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/30/the-release-of-the-flynn-kislyak-transcripts/#comment-2498169</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 19:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see how Obama is going to escape being revealed as the mastermind... oops, sorry wrong word! Obama will never &quot;mastermind&quot; anything unless it involves snatching candy from baby strollers.

But he is going to be revealed as the one who stirred the pot to get Flynn, overtly because Flynn knew where the bodies were buried in the Iran deal, but more fundamentally because Obama is a thin-skinned narcissist with even less love for America than his wife has.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how Obama is going to escape being revealed as the mastermind&#8230; oops, sorry wrong word! Obama will never &#8220;mastermind&#8221; anything unless it involves snatching candy from baby strollers.</p>
<p>But he is going to be revealed as the one who stirred the pot to get Flynn, overtly because Flynn knew where the bodies were buried in the Iran deal, but more fundamentally because Obama is a thin-skinned narcissist with even less love for America than his wife has.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/30/the-release-of-the-flynn-kislyak-transcripts/#comment-2498167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jimmy:

Oh, there&#039;s a simple way to &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; it, all right.

But there&#039;s no simple way to &lt;i&gt;prove&lt;/i&gt; it; to show the evidence takes a long long time and many details. And everyone who isn&#039;t on the right will reject the simple statement as a right-wing lie, without those details.  (Many will reject it even WITH those details, of course.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy:</p>
<p>Oh, there&#8217;s a simple way to <i>say</i> it, all right.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s no simple way to <i>prove</i> it; to show the evidence takes a long long time and many details. And everyone who isn&#8217;t on the right will reject the simple statement as a right-wing lie, without those details.  (Many will reject it even WITH those details, of course.)</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/30/the-release-of-the-flynn-kislyak-transcripts/#comment-2498135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Should conclude(!) by saying that all of the above points to a tremendous Democratic Party &quot;success&quot;, one that they fervently---and fervidly---hope to capitalize on in November.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should conclude(!) by saying that all of the above points to a tremendous Democratic Party &#8220;success&#8221;, one that they fervently&#8212;and fervidly&#8212;hope to capitalize on in November.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not just with the FBI, though. One must give John Brennan the credit that is his due.

As for &quot;conspired&quot;, how about:

&quot;....conspired to blow the Trump administration out of the water at its inception.&quot;

&quot;...conspired to destroy the Constitution and the rule of law.&quot;

&quot;...conspired to obliterate every last vestige of accountability and trust in the US government and its institutions.&quot;

&quot;...conspired to utterly pervert the Fourth Estate (albeit with that body&#039;s enthusiastic participation).&quot;

&quot;...conspired to annihilate the United States of America.&quot;

What we have witnessed ever since Obamagate proved to be not quite up to its exquisitely convoluted, elegantly-conceived task---whether because of some &quot;bad breaks&quot;, a recalcitrant &quot;Lady Luck&quot; or the &quot;Hand of Providence&quot;?---was a further campaign of lies and bad faith was unleashed, starting with Hillary Clinton&#039;s hysterical claims of being cheated out of a Presidency that was rightfully hers, and the manufactured dossier that she bought to prove her claim, resulting along the way in several attempts at impeachment along with a multi-pronged, prolonged campaign of demonization and delegitimization, amplified by a rabid media to make the country ungovernable and tear the body politic apart at the seams.

The results of these crazed, if highly focused, never-ending efforts are the extreme polarization of the country, the rampant factionalism (Madison&#039;s worst nightmare), and the cultivation of extreme hatred for the Trump government and, ultimately the country---as long as that country was being governed by &quot;the wrong people&quot;; all of which has create a powder keg, concocted by the assiduous efforts of the Democratic Party and the corrupt media that pushes that party&#039;s dishonest Narrative, the results of which combustibility have been the convulsions, violence and insanity that we are currently witnessing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just with the FBI, though. One must give John Brennan the credit that is his due.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;conspired&#8221;, how about:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.conspired to blow the Trump administration out of the water at its inception.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;conspired to destroy the Constitution and the rule of law.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;conspired to obliterate every last vestige of accountability and trust in the US government and its institutions.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;conspired to utterly pervert the Fourth Estate (albeit with that body&#8217;s enthusiastic participation).&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;conspired to annihilate the United States of America.&#8221;</p>
<p>What we have witnessed ever since Obamagate proved to be not quite up to its exquisitely convoluted, elegantly-conceived task&#8212;whether because of some &#8220;bad breaks&#8221;, a recalcitrant &#8220;Lady Luck&#8221; or the &#8220;Hand of Providence&#8221;?&#8212;was a further campaign of lies and bad faith was unleashed, starting with Hillary Clinton&#8217;s hysterical claims of being cheated out of a Presidency that was rightfully hers, and the manufactured dossier that she bought to prove her claim, resulting along the way in several attempts at impeachment along with a multi-pronged, prolonged campaign of demonization and delegitimization, amplified by a rabid media to make the country ungovernable and tear the body politic apart at the seams.</p>
<p>The results of these crazed, if highly focused, never-ending efforts are the extreme polarization of the country, the rampant factionalism (Madison&#8217;s worst nightmare), and the cultivation of extreme hatred for the Trump government and, ultimately the country&#8212;as long as that country was being governed by &#8220;the wrong people&#8221;; all of which has create a powder keg, concocted by the assiduous efforts of the Democratic Party and the corrupt media that pushes that party&#8217;s dishonest Narrative, the results of which combustibility have been the convulsions, violence and insanity that we are currently witnessing.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why anyone is taking anything on any of these 302s as true, since the 302 written supposedly immediately after the ambush interview with Flynn at the White House--as FBI SOP required it to be--has &quot;gone missing,&quot; and as we&#039;ve seen from the Stzok-Page messages thus far released, the 302&#039;s that have been offered up by the FBI have been extensively edited and rewritten long after the fact.  

Thus, these 302s are worthless as to what Flynn might have actually said, but useful in showing how the actors involved were phonying up a 302 meant to indict Flynn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why anyone is taking anything on any of these 302s as true, since the 302 written supposedly immediately after the ambush interview with Flynn at the White House&#8211;as FBI SOP required it to be&#8211;has &#8220;gone missing,&#8221; and as we&#8217;ve seen from the Stzok-Page messages thus far released, the 302&#8217;s that have been offered up by the FBI have been extensively edited and rewritten long after the fact.  </p>
<p>Thus, these 302s are worthless as to what Flynn might have actually said, but useful in showing how the actors involved were phonying up a 302 meant to indict Flynn.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/30/the-release-of-the-flynn-kislyak-transcripts/#comment-2498128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin--Then, there was also the sudden and unexpected January 23, 2017  resignation of Robert Hannigan, the head of Britain&#039;s surveillance agency, GCHQ, supposedly to &quot;spend more time with his family.&quot;

As in this country, what about all those below these leaders who facilitated these foreign intelligence operations and those political leaders who were above the leaders of these organizations?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin&#8211;Then, there was also the sudden and unexpected January 23, 2017  resignation of Robert Hannigan, the head of Britain&#8217;s surveillance agency, GCHQ, supposedly to &#8220;spend more time with his family.&#8221;</p>
<p>As in this country, what about all those below these leaders who facilitated these foreign intelligence operations and those political leaders who were above the leaders of these organizations?</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/30/the-release-of-the-flynn-kislyak-transcripts/#comment-2498123</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 11:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joining this late, but regarding the complexity: There&#039;s got to be a way to give a simple one or two sentence summary that gets at the gist of what happened. Something like &quot;The Obama administration conspired with the FBI to lie about Trump administration officials in order to trigger an impeachment investigation.&quot; Or make it more personal: &quot;Obama and his senior officials conspired....&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joining this late, but regarding the complexity: There&#8217;s got to be a way to give a simple one or two sentence summary that gets at the gist of what happened. Something like &#8220;The Obama administration conspired with the FBI to lie about Trump administration officials in order to trigger an impeachment investigation.&#8221; Or make it more personal: &#8220;Obama and his senior officials conspired&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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