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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 23:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was living in So. Cal, South Gate (LA suburb), when the 1965 Watts riots occurred in the city just to our West (freeways meet in Downey to our East).

There was real racism and discrimination then, and it was really wrong, and most of it really stopped, sort of starting with the Civil Rights Act of &#039;64.  This especially stopped the legally enforced Jim Crow laws that Southern Democrats had enacted.

Unfortunately, the sexual liberation and anti-Vietnam war protests got mixed in so that blacks failed to advance as quickly as was expected.  In relative terms, the number and percentage of black kids not living with married parents is over 70%.

There will continue to be riots and unequal outcomes as long as the black rate is so much higher than white and other race rates.  For many decades it now more a problem of bad black behavior rather than racism -- and racism, which does exist, is used as an excuse to avoid responsibility for black adults choosing to be lawless, violent, looting thieves.  Certainly not all, but too many.

I wish that Congress would pass an anti-discrimination law that prohibits using race as a criteria for any gov&#039;t decision or law or policy.  But that would end Affirmative Action, which is anti-white discrimination yet fails to help the black community much.  AA should be ended; AA is racist.

In this time of untruth, those against racist AA laws are denounced as ... racists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was living in So. Cal, South Gate (LA suburb), when the 1965 Watts riots occurred in the city just to our West (freeways meet in Downey to our East).</p>
<p>There was real racism and discrimination then, and it was really wrong, and most of it really stopped, sort of starting with the Civil Rights Act of &#8217;64.  This especially stopped the legally enforced Jim Crow laws that Southern Democrats had enacted.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the sexual liberation and anti-Vietnam war protests got mixed in so that blacks failed to advance as quickly as was expected.  In relative terms, the number and percentage of black kids not living with married parents is over 70%.</p>
<p>There will continue to be riots and unequal outcomes as long as the black rate is so much higher than white and other race rates.  For many decades it now more a problem of bad black behavior rather than racism &#8212; and racism, which does exist, is used as an excuse to avoid responsibility for black adults choosing to be lawless, violent, looting thieves.  Certainly not all, but too many.</p>
<p>I wish that Congress would pass an anti-discrimination law that prohibits using race as a criteria for any gov&#8217;t decision or law or policy.  But that would end Affirmative Action, which is anti-white discrimination yet fails to help the black community much.  AA should be ended; AA is racist.</p>
<p>In this time of untruth, those against racist AA laws are denounced as &#8230; racists.</p>
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		By: Griffin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/29/minneapolis-descends-into-chaos/#comment-2497646</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 04:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do these riots happen on this scale without the months of lockdown?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these riots happen on this scale without the months of lockdown?</p>
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		By: Geofrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geofrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 04:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot; when the looting starts, the shooting starts&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Pres. Trump

As Stan stated, &quot;a riot is not a protest.&quot; Riots are characterized by looting, destruction of innocent&#039;s property and even wanton violence.

I am entirely in favor of shooting looters. Their actions are a direct attack upon society and in doing so, they demonstrate themselves to be uncivilized. Their actions are a violent rejection of civility. Having demonstrated that rejection, they have also forfeited any claim to citizenship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8221; when the looting starts, the shooting starts&#8221;</i> Pres. Trump</p>
<p>As Stan stated, &#8220;a riot is not a protest.&#8221; Riots are characterized by looting, destruction of innocent&#8217;s property and even wanton violence.</p>
<p>I am entirely in favor of shooting looters. Their actions are a direct attack upon society and in doing so, they demonstrate themselves to be uncivilized. Their actions are a violent rejection of civility. Having demonstrated that rejection, they have also forfeited any claim to citizenship.</p>
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		By: Griffin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/29/minneapolis-descends-into-chaos/#comment-2497641</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Griffin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Atlanta mayor gave an emotional statement that pretty much called out the rioters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlanta mayor gave an emotional statement that pretty much called out the rioters.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/29/minneapolis-descends-into-chaos/#comment-2497636</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 04:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After college, I worked for the welfare dept in Phillly. A black coworker told me one day about the 68 Martin Luther King riots. He was a student at Howard and got caught up in the riots and looting. His ex-miltary father and uncle drove down from Philly to bring him home. He had a few things in his suitcase that he had looted, and he was scared that they would find them. Ultimately, his family&#039;s ideas of right and wrong prevailed, but today there are just too many race hustlers who would rather incite the crowds than instill decent behavior among the young, and the press does everything it can to reinforce this attitude. Why are the shootings in Baltimore and Chicago given so little attention? Why aren&#039;t the black anchors and &quot;experts&quot; doing more to point out how the communities should be working to control the gangs? I guess it doesn&#039;t pay as much. Keith was a great guy. I bet his kids have turned out well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After college, I worked for the welfare dept in Phillly. A black coworker told me one day about the 68 Martin Luther King riots. He was a student at Howard and got caught up in the riots and looting. His ex-miltary father and uncle drove down from Philly to bring him home. He had a few things in his suitcase that he had looted, and he was scared that they would find them. Ultimately, his family&#8217;s ideas of right and wrong prevailed, but today there are just too many race hustlers who would rather incite the crowds than instill decent behavior among the young, and the press does everything it can to reinforce this attitude. Why are the shootings in Baltimore and Chicago given so little attention? Why aren&#8217;t the black anchors and &#8220;experts&#8221; doing more to point out how the communities should be working to control the gangs? I guess it doesn&#8217;t pay as much. Keith was a great guy. I bet his kids have turned out well.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/29/minneapolis-descends-into-chaos/#comment-2497616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 01:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Griffin: &quot; Maybe they could come up with a pithy slogan like ‘Stay Home, Stay Safe’.&quot;

Thread winner! :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griffin: &#8221; Maybe they could come up with a pithy slogan like ‘Stay Home, Stay Safe’.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thread winner! 🙂</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/29/minneapolis-descends-into-chaos/#comment-2497589</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 00:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Standard EMT position is on the side.  That way you can clear the airway if the guy vomits, and you don&#039;t have his weight on his breathing apparatus as when he&#039;s face down.
Once the guy is cuffed behind his back, and you have enough people around to keep him from struggling to his feet and running away, face down and knee-to-neck is unnecessary.
This is different from Eric Garner&#039;s case in that the comorbidities are less obvious but the results of peak-strength effort are the same.  
When the guy&#039;s having a hard time breathing just standing there, either he&#039;s got a serious problem or he&#039;s lying and trying to fake you into something.
These two are reported to have worked security at some kind of club.  Wonder if there&#039;s something personal between them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standard EMT position is on the side.  That way you can clear the airway if the guy vomits, and you don&#8217;t have his weight on his breathing apparatus as when he&#8217;s face down.<br />
Once the guy is cuffed behind his back, and you have enough people around to keep him from struggling to his feet and running away, face down and knee-to-neck is unnecessary.<br />
This is different from Eric Garner&#8217;s case in that the comorbidities are less obvious but the results of peak-strength effort are the same.<br />
When the guy&#8217;s having a hard time breathing just standing there, either he&#8217;s got a serious problem or he&#8217;s lying and trying to fake you into something.<br />
These two are reported to have worked security at some kind of club.  Wonder if there&#8217;s something personal between them.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 23:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well.  I think I said, on the other thread, that at the very least we should wait for an autopsy.  The autopsy now shows that Floyd did not die of asphyxiation or strangulation.  He had preexisting coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease, which were exacerbated by his being held down as he was.  Police should not apply this kind of pressure on a detainee in a prone position because it&#039;s inherently dangerous.  I wonder if this will contribute to some kind of manslaughter conviction rather than murder.  It&#039;s still unacceptable behavior.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/29/george-floyd-died-police-restraint-combined-health/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well.  I think I said, on the other thread, that at the very least we should wait for an autopsy.  The autopsy now shows that Floyd did not die of asphyxiation or strangulation.  He had preexisting coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease, which were exacerbated by his being held down as he was.  Police should not apply this kind of pressure on a detainee in a prone position because it&#8217;s inherently dangerous.  I wonder if this will contribute to some kind of manslaughter conviction rather than murder.  It&#8217;s still unacceptable behavior.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/29/george-floyd-died-police-restraint-combined-health/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/29/george-floyd-died-police-restraint-combined-health/</a></p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 23:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Minneapolis/St/Paul used to be really good places to live despite the winters.
But DOS moved 50,000 Somalis in, giving us home-grown Jihadis and Ilhan Omars.
American blacks moved north for better jobs starting in the 1920s. They married, had nuclear families.
Then along came the Brown v. Board decision, which was not supported in fact. The black schools in Topeka were physically just as fine as the schools for whites, yet separation was deemed &quot;inherently&quot; unequal. See this: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/the-brown-v-board-of-education-case-didnt-start-how-you-think-it-did
And the majority of black Topekans liked the then-status quo.  Diversity was and is a sham.

After that, we got the Pill, the sexual revolution, the War on Poverty, Medicaid, Civil Rights, the various social programs that encouraged single motherhood, and here is where we end up, with the Alinsky-inspired 1960s all over again, trillions of dollars and millions of school buses later. 

Sure looks like a repeat of history to me.

The MSM has jumped on Trump for loot=shoot, which Twitter censored, but the state troopers and National Guard are prepared to shoot....rubber bullets!
The gall of a private company censoring a president makes me puke.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minneapolis/St/Paul used to be really good places to live despite the winters.<br />
But DOS moved 50,000 Somalis in, giving us home-grown Jihadis and Ilhan Omars.<br />
American blacks moved north for better jobs starting in the 1920s. They married, had nuclear families.<br />
Then along came the Brown v. Board decision, which was not supported in fact. The black schools in Topeka were physically just as fine as the schools for whites, yet separation was deemed &#8220;inherently&#8221; unequal. See this: <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/the-brown-v-board-of-education-case-didnt-start-how-you-think-it-did" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/the-brown-v-board-of-education-case-didnt-start-how-you-think-it-did</a><br />
And the majority of black Topekans liked the then-status quo.  Diversity was and is a sham.</p>
<p>After that, we got the Pill, the sexual revolution, the War on Poverty, Medicaid, Civil Rights, the various social programs that encouraged single motherhood, and here is where we end up, with the Alinsky-inspired 1960s all over again, trillions of dollars and millions of school buses later. </p>
<p>Sure looks like a repeat of history to me.</p>
<p>The MSM has jumped on Trump for loot=shoot, which Twitter censored, but the state troopers and National Guard are prepared to shoot&#8230;.rubber bullets!<br />
The gall of a private company censoring a president makes me puke.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 22:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul in Boston:

I already read that about them having worked security at the same club, but the article I read said they worked different shifts and probably didn&#039;t know each other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul in Boston:</p>
<p>I already read that about them having worked security at the same club, but the article I read said they worked different shifts and probably didn&#8217;t know each other.</p>
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