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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But co-ordinating cover stories is not so easy.&quot;

Quite so.
Which is where Susan Rice&#039;s &quot;memo to self&quot;---so believable!, so credible!---comes in so handy.

Wonder, though, after Obama/Clinton &#038; Co. have had a pretty decent run playing &quot;Let&#039;s defenestrate the president&quot;, whether Barr &#038; Co. are going to get a chance to play &quot;Prisoner&#039;s Dilemma&quot;....

(Though with the MSCM riding shotgun, all bets are off on ANY truth getting out in the open.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But co-ordinating cover stories is not so easy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite so.<br />
Which is where Susan Rice&#8217;s &#8220;memo to self&#8221;&#8212;so believable!, so credible!&#8212;comes in so handy.</p>
<p>Wonder, though, after Obama/Clinton &amp; Co. have had a pretty decent run playing &#8220;Let&#8217;s defenestrate the president&#8221;, whether Barr &amp; Co. are going to get a chance to play &#8220;Prisoner&#8217;s Dilemma&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>(Though with the MSCM riding shotgun, all bets are off on ANY truth getting out in the open.)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 07:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Biden himself is not coming up with these things - he only produces what his handlers are supporting.

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/05/27/joe-biden-oddly-rants-that-hell-break-a-law-democrats-relentlessly-accused-michael-flynn-of/
&lt;blockquote&gt;Tweet:
&lt;blockquote&gt;

Biden today, per pooler @JTHVerhovek : &quot; on the day I am officially elected, before I&#039;m sworn in -- even though he&#039;ll probably contest we didn&#039;t win -- I&#039;m going to immediately have to be on the phone with key European and Asian leaders to tell them America&#039;s back.&quot;

5:37 PM - May 26, 2020&lt;/blockquote&gt;
...
So let me get this straight. I&lt;b&gt;f Biden is elected, he’s going to start calling other countries and dictating foreign policy to them before he’s sworn in? &lt;/b&gt;Well, that’s very interesting. I mean, it’s not like Democrats have been wringing their hands over the Logan Act for the last four years or anything. In fact, the entire pretense of the Michael Flynn setup was that he had broken the Logan Act by talking to the Russians.

But here’s Biden announcing to the world that he’s going to break the very law his party and their media allies tried to lionize when they thought they could target Trump officials with it.
...
&lt;b&gt;What’s annoying is the selective use of the law by the left to try to score PR victories.&lt;/b&gt; When Republican senators wrote an open letter to Iran warning them that the Iran deal was not a treaty and could be overridden in the future, the press lit up with hot takes that they’d violated the Logan Act. When John Kerry openly flirts with the Iranians to undermine American foreign policy, the Logan Act is suddenly reported as a misguided law that shouldn’t be enforced. When it’s Michael Flynn simply telling the Russians to not be rash, it’s a Logan Act violation that the FBI must pursue at the urging of the Obama administration. When it’s Joe Biden proclaiming he’s gonna break the Logan Act, no one cares. &lt;b&gt;None of this makes sense and it’s emblematic of how partisan matters of law have become.&lt;/b&gt;

Regardless, Biden should probably get elected first before pontificating on what laws he’s going to break afterward.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course, it &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; make sense, when the objective is gaining power by any means, and hypocrisy serves the agenda better than does any kind of principled consistency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden himself is not coming up with these things &#8211; he only produces what his handlers are supporting.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/05/27/joe-biden-oddly-rants-that-hell-break-a-law-democrats-relentlessly-accused-michael-flynn-of/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/05/27/joe-biden-oddly-rants-that-hell-break-a-law-democrats-relentlessly-accused-michael-flynn-of/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Tweet:</p>
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<p>Biden today, per pooler @JTHVerhovek : &#8221; on the day I am officially elected, before I&#8217;m sworn in &#8212; even though he&#8217;ll probably contest we didn&#8217;t win &#8212; I&#8217;m going to immediately have to be on the phone with key European and Asian leaders to tell them America&#8217;s back.&#8221;</p>
<p>5:37 PM &#8211; May 26, 2020</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;<br />
So let me get this straight. I<b>f Biden is elected, he’s going to start calling other countries and dictating foreign policy to them before he’s sworn in? </b>Well, that’s very interesting. I mean, it’s not like Democrats have been wringing their hands over the Logan Act for the last four years or anything. In fact, the entire pretense of the Michael Flynn setup was that he had broken the Logan Act by talking to the Russians.</p>
<p>But here’s Biden announcing to the world that he’s going to break the very law his party and their media allies tried to lionize when they thought they could target Trump officials with it.<br />
&#8230;<br />
<b>What’s annoying is the selective use of the law by the left to try to score PR victories.</b> When Republican senators wrote an open letter to Iran warning them that the Iran deal was not a treaty and could be overridden in the future, the press lit up with hot takes that they’d violated the Logan Act. When John Kerry openly flirts with the Iranians to undermine American foreign policy, the Logan Act is suddenly reported as a misguided law that shouldn’t be enforced. When it’s Michael Flynn simply telling the Russians to not be rash, it’s a Logan Act violation that the FBI must pursue at the urging of the Obama administration. When it’s Joe Biden proclaiming he’s gonna break the Logan Act, no one cares. <b>None of this makes sense and it’s emblematic of how partisan matters of law have become.</b></p>
<p>Regardless, Biden should probably get elected first before pontificating on what laws he’s going to break afterward.
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<p>Of course, it <em>does</em> make sense, when the objective is gaining power by any means, and hypocrisy serves the agenda better than does any kind of principled consistency.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 07:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ICYMI - Manhattan Contrarian points out the obvious, to those willing to look.

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2020-5-20-obamagate-co-ordinating-the-cover-story
&lt;blockquote&gt;May 20, 2020/ Francis Menton
When a collection of bad guys pulls off a big heist, or a murder, or another important crime, one of the critical problems they face is co-ordinating the cover story.  The cops may arrest one or more of them, and then question each suspect separately.  Any cover stories must be completely consistent if they are to succeed.  Inconsistencies in the cover story, even slight ones, will prompt focused questioning that could cause the whole house of cards to collapse.

But co-ordinating cover stories is not so easy. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ICYMI &#8211; Manhattan Contrarian points out the obvious, to those willing to look.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2020-5-20-obamagate-co-ordinating-the-cover-story" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2020-5-20-obamagate-co-ordinating-the-cover-story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>May 20, 2020/ Francis Menton<br />
When a collection of bad guys pulls off a big heist, or a murder, or another important crime, one of the critical problems they face is co-ordinating the cover story.  The cops may arrest one or more of them, and then question each suspect separately.  Any cover stories must be completely consistent if they are to succeed.  Inconsistencies in the cover story, even slight ones, will prompt focused questioning that could cause the whole house of cards to collapse.</p>
<p>But co-ordinating cover stories is not so easy.
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 07:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Breaking news - Barr gets first &quot;voluntary&quot; resignation - no jail time for subverting justice and attempted coup against the president, of course, but that&#039;s how things roll in our two or three tiers of blind justice.

Now, if Boente had been passing fake twenties or bootleg cigarettes, that&#039;s entirely different.

https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/top-fbi-lawyer-resigns-allegedly-request-justice-department
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Dana Boente, a longtime lawyer for the FBI, resigned on Saturday allegedly at the request of the Justice Department, following earlier allegations that he had worked to block the public release of exculpatory evidence in the Michael Flynn case. 
Boente had been at the FBI for just under 40 years. Anonymous sources told NBC News on Saturday that the request for his resignation came from &quot;high levels&quot; of the Justice Department. 

An FBI official told The Federalist in April that Boente &quot;led the charge internally against DOJ’s disclosure&quot; against allegedly exculpatory documents of Michael Flynn. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Strike that &quot;allegedly&quot; about the exculpatory documents.
It&#039;s about as proven as a fact can be.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/declassified-transcripts-add-evidence-fbi-had-no-legal

Gaetz is right about reforms -- they have to have accountability enforced to be any good.

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/gaetz-calls-major-structural-reforms-fisa-its-only-good-people-running-it
&lt;blockquote&gt;Gaetz calls for major reforms to FISA: &#039;It&#039;s only as good as the people running it&#039;
&#039;There is no mechanism by which the system or the institution can stop corrupt people,&#039; Gaetz says of surveillance bill.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking news &#8211; Barr gets first &#8220;voluntary&#8221; resignation &#8211; no jail time for subverting justice and attempted coup against the president, of course, but that&#8217;s how things roll in our two or three tiers of blind justice.</p>
<p>Now, if Boente had been passing fake twenties or bootleg cigarettes, that&#8217;s entirely different.</p>
<p><a href="https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/top-fbi-lawyer-resigns-allegedly-request-justice-department" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/top-fbi-lawyer-resigns-allegedly-request-justice-department</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Dana Boente, a longtime lawyer for the FBI, resigned on Saturday allegedly at the request of the Justice Department, following earlier allegations that he had worked to block the public release of exculpatory evidence in the Michael Flynn case.<br />
Boente had been at the FBI for just under 40 years. Anonymous sources told NBC News on Saturday that the request for his resignation came from &#8220;high levels&#8221; of the Justice Department. </p>
<p>An FBI official told The Federalist in April that Boente &#8220;led the charge internally against DOJ’s disclosure&#8221; against allegedly exculpatory documents of Michael Flynn.
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<p>Strike that &#8220;allegedly&#8221; about the exculpatory documents.<br />
It&#8217;s about as proven as a fact can be.</p>
<p><a href="https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/declassified-transcripts-add-evidence-fbi-had-no-legal" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/declassified-transcripts-add-evidence-fbi-had-no-legal</a></p>
<p>Gaetz is right about reforms &#8212; they have to have accountability enforced to be any good.</p>
<p><a href="https://justthenews.com/government/congress/gaetz-calls-major-structural-reforms-fisa-its-only-good-people-running-it" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/government/congress/gaetz-calls-major-structural-reforms-fisa-its-only-good-people-running-it</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Gaetz calls for major reforms to FISA: &#8216;It&#8217;s only as good as the people running it&#8217;<br />
&#8216;There is no mechanism by which the system or the institution can stop corrupt people,&#8217; Gaetz says of surveillance bill.
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 23:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A huge amount of the Trump Hoax was coverup by Obama &#038; thugs over his obstruction of justice to save HR Clinton from indictment because of her illegal email server.  America was so so close to electing a terrible criminal.

Still NeverHillary.

Too bad there&#039;s no Special Prosecutor to look into her case AND the FBIs mishandling of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A huge amount of the Trump Hoax was coverup by Obama &amp; thugs over his obstruction of justice to save HR Clinton from indictment because of her illegal email server.  America was so so close to electing a terrible criminal.</p>
<p>Still NeverHillary.</p>
<p>Too bad there&#8217;s no Special Prosecutor to look into her case AND the FBIs mishandling of it.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 20:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;And McCarthy took the Hillary factor off the table in his rant by not mentioning it.&quot;

Um, &quot;[H]is RANT&quot;?
&quot;...not mentioning it.&quot;?
From McCarthy&#039;s article:
&quot;...This inspector general report readily complemented the one completed two years earlier, in connection with the Hillary Clinton emails escapade, which documented rampant anti-Trump bias among key investigators assigned to the Clinton and Trump inquiries — as well as the unusually deep involvement in both cases of the bureau’s highest echelon, then-Director James Comey and then-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. Also falling into place was another inspector general report, centering on McCabe. He had first orchestrated a leak of investigative information involving a dispute between the FBI and the Obama Justice Department over scrutiny of the Clinton Foundation; then, he made repeated misrepresentations to investigators, including under oath... &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And McCarthy took the Hillary factor off the table in his rant by not mentioning it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, &#8220;[H]is RANT&#8221;?<br />
&#8220;&#8230;not mentioning it.&#8221;?<br />
From McCarthy&#8217;s article:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;This inspector general report readily complemented the one completed two years earlier, in connection with the Hillary Clinton emails escapade, which documented rampant anti-Trump bias among key investigators assigned to the Clinton and Trump inquiries — as well as the unusually deep involvement in both cases of the bureau’s highest echelon, then-Director James Comey and then-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. Also falling into place was another inspector general report, centering on McCabe. He had first orchestrated a leak of investigative information involving a dispute between the FBI and the Obama Justice Department over scrutiny of the Clinton Foundation; then, he made repeated misrepresentations to investigators, including under oath&#8230; &#8220;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 20:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson on May 29, 2020 at 10:14 pm said:
Not to quibble, but this is more of a summary than a transcript.
* * *
The transcripts follow the summaries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Nathanson on May 29, 2020 at 10:14 pm said:<br />
Not to quibble, but this is more of a summary than a transcript.<br />
* * *<br />
The transcripts follow the summaries.</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 16:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is beyond outrageous that a lame-duck Obama clearly imposed heavy and humiliating sanctions on a dangerous world-power adversary, for the sole purpose of forcing his duly-elected successor to attempt to defuse the situation, so that those efforts made in good faith on behalf of America&#039;s best interests could be falsely portrayed as treasonous!

What is just as outrageous is that Obama had spent years perverting vital parts of the US government into tools capable of serving such dishonorable purposes.

Obama deserves to be struck from the roles of US Presidents. Take that official portrait and smash it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is beyond outrageous that a lame-duck Obama clearly imposed heavy and humiliating sanctions on a dangerous world-power adversary, for the sole purpose of forcing his duly-elected successor to attempt to defuse the situation, so that those efforts made in good faith on behalf of America&#8217;s best interests could be falsely portrayed as treasonous!</p>
<p>What is just as outrageous is that Obama had spent years perverting vital parts of the US government into tools capable of serving such dishonorable purposes.</p>
<p>Obama deserves to be struck from the roles of US Presidents. Take that official portrait and smash it!</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 14:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Possibilities

1.  The Deepers never figured it would come out.  They thought they had it locked up.  Nothing&#039;s perfect but they thought they were as close as possible and close enough.
2.  The Deepers figured it might come out but it wouldn&#039;t make a difference.  We&#039;ll see.

3.  The Deepers have a back up plan in case it comes out....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibilities</p>
<p>1.  The Deepers never figured it would come out.  They thought they had it locked up.  Nothing&#8217;s perfect but they thought they were as close as possible and close enough.<br />
2.  The Deepers figured it might come out but it wouldn&#8217;t make a difference.  We&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>3.  The Deepers have a back up plan in case it comes out&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 13:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As more records are declassified and released, we learn that there was no reason for withholding them from public scrutiny except they made the government look bad.

When I worked in the State Departments FOIA Office we were instructed that under no circumstances would we withhold records merely to protect the public perception of the Department.  

Obviously, that instruction has disappeared or been rendered inoperative, which pretty much guts the purpose of the FOIA.  

When I first came to the FOIA Office, I was not convinced the Act or all the offices it brought into being all over Washington was such a good idea.  Why show all your warts to the general public, after all?

Now I am a firm believer in showing all those warts.  Perhaps it will be a little conscience sitting on the shoulder of people drafting departmental records: &quot;how will this be seen if it appears in the pages of American newspapers?&quot;  That seems like a good thing for drafters to keep in mind as they write.  And I know from personal experience that the ability to classify documents was not always used to defend the national security -- sometimes a drafter just wants to limit the distribution a document will get.  

One of the biggest failings of the Freedom of Information Act is that it covers only the Executive Branch.  It should apply to the Legislative Branch too.  American taxpayers should be entitled to see their warts too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As more records are declassified and released, we learn that there was no reason for withholding them from public scrutiny except they made the government look bad.</p>
<p>When I worked in the State Departments FOIA Office we were instructed that under no circumstances would we withhold records merely to protect the public perception of the Department.  </p>
<p>Obviously, that instruction has disappeared or been rendered inoperative, which pretty much guts the purpose of the FOIA.  </p>
<p>When I first came to the FOIA Office, I was not convinced the Act or all the offices it brought into being all over Washington was such a good idea.  Why show all your warts to the general public, after all?</p>
<p>Now I am a firm believer in showing all those warts.  Perhaps it will be a little conscience sitting on the shoulder of people drafting departmental records: &#8220;how will this be seen if it appears in the pages of American newspapers?&#8221;  That seems like a good thing for drafters to keep in mind as they write.  And I know from personal experience that the ability to classify documents was not always used to defend the national security &#8212; sometimes a drafter just wants to limit the distribution a document will get.  </p>
<p>One of the biggest failings of the Freedom of Information Act is that it covers only the Executive Branch.  It should apply to the Legislative Branch too.  American taxpayers should be entitled to see their warts too.</p>
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