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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496988</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 03:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only a billion?  How many will be dancing on the head of a pin when they get their first cough?  Do tell us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a billion?  How many will be dancing on the head of a pin when they get their first cough?  Do tell us.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496955</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 00:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Somebody actually plans to convince humanity that if they don&#039;t Obey, a billion fatalities will result. Gee, I wonder who that would be in 2020.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody actually plans to convince humanity that if they don&#8217;t Obey, a billion fatalities will result. Gee, I wonder who that would be in 2020.</p>
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		By: Montage		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496901</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 16:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Om

&lt;i&gt;The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates there’s a 20%-to-50% chance that those infected with the coronavirus do not show symptoms. Yet even those asymptomatic people may be just as capable of transmitting the disease as other infected people who eventually become visibly sick, the CDC said.&lt;/i&gt;

Notice the word ‘may’ in there? You would have to agree that your opinion that “asymptomatic individuals aren’t’ the spreaders” is more definitive and not based on the current science. It doesn’t mean everything should stay shut down. It means let’s use caution. And so most of America is doing that as we re-open. [Even Sean Hannity agrees - watch his bit on Land of the Ozarks last night.]

Los Angeles just opened most retail today. Churches too can open with 25% capacity [the same capacity Texas recommended in early May]. As I said before, the business and a good part of the economy will be back even in blue states well before November.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om</p>
<p><i>The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates there’s a 20%-to-50% chance that those infected with the coronavirus do not show symptoms. Yet even those asymptomatic people may be just as capable of transmitting the disease as other infected people who eventually become visibly sick, the CDC said.</i></p>
<p>Notice the word ‘may’ in there? You would have to agree that your opinion that “asymptomatic individuals aren’t’ the spreaders” is more definitive and not based on the current science. It doesn’t mean everything should stay shut down. It means let’s use caution. And so most of America is doing that as we re-open. [Even Sean Hannity agrees &#8211; watch his bit on Land of the Ozarks last night.]</p>
<p>Los Angeles just opened most retail today. Churches too can open with 25% capacity [the same capacity Texas recommended in early May]. As I said before, the business and a good part of the economy will be back even in blue states well before November.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496881</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 07:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Brits have a meme for this crisis –
https://lockdownsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/media_virus.png

Good site if you are interested in what’s happening in the UK, or just like snark &#038; facts (rather like tea &#038; crumpets, what?).

One of the stories from the front page.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/25/the-public-must-lead-us-out-of-the-lockdown/
by Brendan O’Neill]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Brits have a meme for this crisis –<br />
<a href="https://lockdownsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/media_virus.png" rel="nofollow ugc">https://lockdownsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/media_virus.png</a></p>
<p>Good site if you are interested in what’s happening in the UK, or just like snark &amp; facts (rather like tea &amp; crumpets, what?).</p>
<p>One of the stories from the front page.<br />
<a href="https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/25/the-public-must-lead-us-out-of-the-lockdown/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/25/the-public-must-lead-us-out-of-the-lockdown/</a><br />
by Brendan O’Neill</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496877</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 06:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Democrats once more doing the usual thing after being involved in a scandal: eliminate the evidence.
Sadly for them, the internet is forever -- unlike Hillary&#039;s server or Lois Lerner&#039;s records or FBI 302s.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/cuomo-coronavirus-order-forcing-nursing-homes-to-take-covid-19-patients-scrubbed-from-new-york-state-website/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=article&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=top-bar-latest&#038;utm_term=first]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats once more doing the usual thing after being involved in a scandal: eliminate the evidence.<br />
Sadly for them, the internet is forever &#8212; unlike Hillary&#8217;s server or Lois Lerner&#8217;s records or FBI 302s.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/news/cuomo-coronavirus-order-forcing-nursing-homes-to-take-covid-19-patients-scrubbed-from-new-york-state-website/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=article&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=top-bar-latest&#038;utm_term=first" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/news/cuomo-coronavirus-order-forcing-nursing-homes-to-take-covid-19-patients-scrubbed-from-new-york-state-website/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=article&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=top-bar-latest&#038;utm_term=first</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496873</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 06:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some of the stories on Judge McHaney are conflating two cases, as did the one I linked above.
This one clarifies that situation.
https://www.redstate.com/smoosieq/2020/05/26/americans-dont-get-ruled-illinois-judge-unloads-on-pritzkers-stay-at-home-order/
&quot;Following Bailey’s challenge, James Mainer, an Operation Iraqi Freedom veteran and small business owner in Clay City, filed a similar suit in Clay County. Judge McHaney issued his ruling in that matter this past Friday and, although he again limited the scope of the restraining order to the individual plaintiff, he had some choice words for the Governor and his stay-at-home order &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the stories on Judge McHaney are conflating two cases, as did the one I linked above.<br />
This one clarifies that situation.<br />
<a href="https://www.redstate.com/smoosieq/2020/05/26/americans-dont-get-ruled-illinois-judge-unloads-on-pritzkers-stay-at-home-order/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.redstate.com/smoosieq/2020/05/26/americans-dont-get-ruled-illinois-judge-unloads-on-pritzkers-stay-at-home-order/</a><br />
&#8220;Following Bailey’s challenge, James Mainer, an Operation Iraqi Freedom veteran and small business owner in Clay City, filed a similar suit in Clay County. Judge McHaney issued his ruling in that matter this past Friday and, although he again limited the scope of the restraining order to the individual plaintiff, he had some choice words for the Governor and his stay-at-home order &#8220;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496869</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 05:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Party of Science and #BelieveAllExperts doesn&#039;t read the news.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/party-science-dems-far-more-likely-gop-reject-or-be-unaware-covid-19]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Party of Science and #BelieveAllExperts doesn&#8217;t read the news.</p>
<p><a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/party-science-dems-far-more-likely-gop-reject-or-be-unaware-covid-19" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/party-science-dems-far-more-likely-gop-reject-or-be-unaware-covid-19</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496868</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 04:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now we understand - the Democrats just want members of closed churches to ask themselves WWJD?

https://babylonbee.com/news/scholars-claim-jesus-actually-told-lepers-stay-home-save-lives


Whereas, like the Chinese, they have only our good in mind.
https://babylonbee.com/news/china-issues-stay-at-home-order-to-hong-kong-to-prevent-spread-of-democracy
&lt;blockquote&gt;Reaction by the American media was swift. “Wow, China is so great! I wish we could be like China!” exclaimed numerous journalists. “Why can’t Trump be China?”

American politicians also spoke up on the order. “Hopefully the people in Hong Kong will be more compliant than Americans,” said Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer. “We issued our stay-at-home order far too late to stop the spread of the idea that people have liberty and can do whatever they want.”
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we understand &#8211; the Democrats just want members of closed churches to ask themselves WWJD?</p>
<p><a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/scholars-claim-jesus-actually-told-lepers-stay-home-save-lives" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/scholars-claim-jesus-actually-told-lepers-stay-home-save-lives</a></p>
<p>Whereas, like the Chinese, they have only our good in mind.<br />
<a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/china-issues-stay-at-home-order-to-hong-kong-to-prevent-spread-of-democracy" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/china-issues-stay-at-home-order-to-hong-kong-to-prevent-spread-of-democracy</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Reaction by the American media was swift. “Wow, China is so great! I wish we could be like China!” exclaimed numerous journalists. “Why can’t Trump be China?”</p>
<p>American politicians also spoke up on the order. “Hopefully the people in Hong Kong will be more compliant than Americans,” said Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer. “We issued our stay-at-home order far too late to stop the spread of the idea that people have liberty and can do whatever they want.”
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/26/democrat-bigwigs-fear-an-economic-upswing-before-november/#comment-2496861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 03:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, J E Dyer addressed the lockdowns &#038; quarantines &#038; Democrat dementia (as detailed in Judge McHaney&#039;s censure), in the context of Memorial Day.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/05/25/memorial-day-2020-about-freedom/
&lt;blockquote&gt;...
We have people who insist on their freedom &lt;b&gt;from&lt;/b&gt; wearing masks, too often by taunting other people.  To suggest that they aren’t helping the cause of freedom this way is not to say they should be compelled by the government to wear masks.

But the straw man that it &lt;b&gt;does&lt;/b&gt; mean that tends to take over the debate.  It becomes an either-or proposition, often argued stupidly on both sides and impossible to find common ground on.

Then there are the people who very selectively want to see churches remain closed, thus denying others their freedom &lt;b&gt;to &lt;/b&gt;(in this case, to exercise religion).  An astonishing number of governors have this attitude.

As with the either-or mask proposition, the closed churches are too often argued in basically stupid terms.  It may be safe enough to open the libraries, but no matter how well folks social-distance at church they’re still unsafe; or, conversely, social-distancing is meaningless bunk and churches should just be open for business, period – forget the common-sense precautions:  masks, spread-out seating, temperature-taking for entry.

All of these things are unhelpful.  It’s easy to see only these points of contention, and the ignoble taunting over them, and want to throw our hands up in despair.

&lt;b&gt;But I submit to you this: that this moment is exactly what our honored dead gave their lives to leave us with – because we can see what’s happening, and we can make choices.&lt;/b&gt;

Never in history has a nation been as blessed as ours, to see the truth before us, not be deceived, and have the power of choice.  Even those among us with little idea of freedom and little understanding know that what we are doing during this crisis is having a debate about freedom.

When freedom is in peril, there are always forces endeavoring to obscure that very point.  &lt;b&gt;The attempt is to convince us that this isn’t about our freedom; it’s about some crisis-specific issue, and freedom is either secondary or isn’t really in danger at all.&lt;/b&gt;

But when governors will open gyms and restaurants but not churches, we all know it’s about freedom.  When mayors suffer thousands of people to ride cheek-by-jowl in trains every day but send the police to break up carefully-distanced classrooms in yeshivas, we all know it’s about freedom.  When sheriffs arrest people – even masked people – for sitting still at the beach, but can’t arrest government officials for moving helpless old people into nursing homes that can’t take care of them properly, we all know it’s about freedom.

When the police are actually dispatched to prevent parents from working to put food on the table for their children, we all know it’s about freedom.

&lt;b&gt;The ability to see, think these thoughts, have this debate, keep it up for debate and ensure it matters to our policies going forward – this is what our forebears died to give us.&lt;/b&gt;  We may be wrong sometimes; we may be imprecise; we may be short-tempered, or crass with each other, or whining or intimidating or rude – but we are not deceived.  We are not already defeated.

We can have hope because even people who can no longer define freedom well have a visceral sense of its importance.  We can hope because even the people who don’t want freedom know this is about freedom.
...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, J E Dyer addressed the lockdowns &amp; quarantines &amp; Democrat dementia (as detailed in Judge McHaney&#8217;s censure), in the context of Memorial Day.</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/05/25/memorial-day-2020-about-freedom/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/05/25/memorial-day-2020-about-freedom/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;<br />
We have people who insist on their freedom <b>from</b> wearing masks, too often by taunting other people.  To suggest that they aren’t helping the cause of freedom this way is not to say they should be compelled by the government to wear masks.</p>
<p>But the straw man that it <b>does</b> mean that tends to take over the debate.  It becomes an either-or proposition, often argued stupidly on both sides and impossible to find common ground on.</p>
<p>Then there are the people who very selectively want to see churches remain closed, thus denying others their freedom <b>to </b>(in this case, to exercise religion).  An astonishing number of governors have this attitude.</p>
<p>As with the either-or mask proposition, the closed churches are too often argued in basically stupid terms.  It may be safe enough to open the libraries, but no matter how well folks social-distance at church they’re still unsafe; or, conversely, social-distancing is meaningless bunk and churches should just be open for business, period – forget the common-sense precautions:  masks, spread-out seating, temperature-taking for entry.</p>
<p>All of these things are unhelpful.  It’s easy to see only these points of contention, and the ignoble taunting over them, and want to throw our hands up in despair.</p>
<p><b>But I submit to you this: that this moment is exactly what our honored dead gave their lives to leave us with – because we can see what’s happening, and we can make choices.</b></p>
<p>Never in history has a nation been as blessed as ours, to see the truth before us, not be deceived, and have the power of choice.  Even those among us with little idea of freedom and little understanding know that what we are doing during this crisis is having a debate about freedom.</p>
<p>When freedom is in peril, there are always forces endeavoring to obscure that very point.  <b>The attempt is to convince us that this isn’t about our freedom; it’s about some crisis-specific issue, and freedom is either secondary or isn’t really in danger at all.</b></p>
<p>But when governors will open gyms and restaurants but not churches, we all know it’s about freedom.  When mayors suffer thousands of people to ride cheek-by-jowl in trains every day but send the police to break up carefully-distanced classrooms in yeshivas, we all know it’s about freedom.  When sheriffs arrest people – even masked people – for sitting still at the beach, but can’t arrest government officials for moving helpless old people into nursing homes that can’t take care of them properly, we all know it’s about freedom.</p>
<p>When the police are actually dispatched to prevent parents from working to put food on the table for their children, we all know it’s about freedom.</p>
<p><b>The ability to see, think these thoughts, have this debate, keep it up for debate and ensure it matters to our policies going forward – this is what our forebears died to give us.</b>  We may be wrong sometimes; we may be imprecise; we may be short-tempered, or crass with each other, or whining or intimidating or rude – but we are not deceived.  We are not already defeated.</p>
<p>We can have hope because even people who can no longer define freedom well have a visceral sense of its importance.  We can hope because even the people who don’t want freedom know this is about freedom.<br />
&#8230;
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 03:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bonus from Tolley&#039;s Topics.
Time to have a few laughs.
https://tolleystopics.com/2020/05/26/smiles-via-meme/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonus from Tolley&#8217;s Topics.<br />
Time to have a few laughs.<br />
<a href="https://tolleystopics.com/2020/05/26/smiles-via-meme/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tolleystopics.com/2020/05/26/smiles-via-meme/</a></p>
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