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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/13/perhaps-you-thought-the-flynn-case-couldnt-get-any-worse/#comment-2494401</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 17:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Art – They were attempting to get to Reagan with the Iran-Contra investigation but Lt. Col. North was in the way, the same as Lt. Gen. Flynn with the Russia investigation. Also, Reagan was so popular with everyone that they couldn’t make anything stick to him.&lt;/i&gt;

Reagan was never in danger of impeachment proceedings.  He was bedeviled by Lawrence Walsh, whose office was eventually shut down for cause at the end of the 1st Bush Administration.  When Democrats were subjected to the splendors of the independent counsel law, they agreed to let it expire.  


&lt;i&gt;Bush Sr. wasn’t in long enough for them to really go after him. Also, they were able to push him around so much that they didn’t consider him a threat. Rest assured if he had been re-elected they would have found a reason to go after him.&lt;/i&gt;

Walsh had it in for Bush, and secured an indictment of Caspar Weinberger days before the 1992 election.  The indictment was substantively absurd and invalid due to the passage of time.  At that point, Bush shut down the office and issued pardons to a mess of people.  


&lt;i&gt;They went after Bush Jr. with the “Bush Lied, People Died” meme. &lt;/i&gt;

There were no impeachment proceedings, just the usual propaganda campaigns and congressional committee harassment.  That&#039;s what they do.  They may be the occidental world&#039;s most mendacious political organization.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Art – They were attempting to get to Reagan with the Iran-Contra investigation but Lt. Col. North was in the way, the same as Lt. Gen. Flynn with the Russia investigation. Also, Reagan was so popular with everyone that they couldn’t make anything stick to him.</i></p>
<p>Reagan was never in danger of impeachment proceedings.  He was bedeviled by Lawrence Walsh, whose office was eventually shut down for cause at the end of the 1st Bush Administration.  When Democrats were subjected to the splendors of the independent counsel law, they agreed to let it expire.  </p>
<p><i>Bush Sr. wasn’t in long enough for them to really go after him. Also, they were able to push him around so much that they didn’t consider him a threat. Rest assured if he had been re-elected they would have found a reason to go after him.</i></p>
<p>Walsh had it in for Bush, and secured an indictment of Caspar Weinberger days before the 1992 election.  The indictment was substantively absurd and invalid due to the passage of time.  At that point, Bush shut down the office and issued pardons to a mess of people.  </p>
<p><i>They went after Bush Jr. with the “Bush Lied, People Died” meme. </i></p>
<p>There were no impeachment proceedings, just the usual propaganda campaigns and congressional committee harassment.  That&#8217;s what they do.  They may be the occidental world&#8217;s most mendacious political organization.</p>
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		By: Bilwick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 16:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s fitting that Obama be back in the news at this time. Someone once said that it was after Red Diaper Barry&#039;s election that &quot;liberals&quot; and &quot;progressives&quot; started changing the bumper stickers on their cars from the one saying &quot;Question Authority&quot; to the one that says &quot;Obey.&quot; The mask has  pretty much stayed off all this time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fitting that Obama be back in the news at this time. Someone once said that it was after Red Diaper Barry&#8217;s election that &#8220;liberals&#8221; and &#8220;progressives&#8221; started changing the bumper stickers on their cars from the one saying &#8220;Question Authority&#8221; to the one that says &#8220;Obey.&#8221; The mask has  pretty much stayed off all this time.</p>
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		By: Irv		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 03:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art - They were attempting to get to Reagan with the Iran-Contra investigation but Lt. Col. North was in the way, the same as Lt. Gen. Flynn with the Russia investigation.  Also, Reagan was so popular with everyone that they couldn&#039;t make anything stick to him.

Bush Sr. wasn&#039;t in long enough for them to really go after him.  Also, they were able to push him around so much that they didn&#039;t consider him a threat. Rest assured if he had been re-elected they would have found a reason to go after him.

They went after Bush Jr. with the &quot;Bush Lied, People Died&quot; meme.  They just couldn&#039;t make it stick enough to progress to an impeachment vote because people still remembered and approved of his handling of 9/11.  But, that is definitely what they were aiming for.  If they had taken control of the House a little sooner in his administration they would have gotten there I assure you.

I don&#039;t want to re-argue the Nixon case because positions are so hardened after all these years it would be a waste of both of our time.  Just suffice it to say that I disagree with your over-simplified and incomplete summary of the situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art &#8211; They were attempting to get to Reagan with the Iran-Contra investigation but Lt. Col. North was in the way, the same as Lt. Gen. Flynn with the Russia investigation.  Also, Reagan was so popular with everyone that they couldn&#8217;t make anything stick to him.</p>
<p>Bush Sr. wasn&#8217;t in long enough for them to really go after him.  Also, they were able to push him around so much that they didn&#8217;t consider him a threat. Rest assured if he had been re-elected they would have found a reason to go after him.</p>
<p>They went after Bush Jr. with the &#8220;Bush Lied, People Died&#8221; meme.  They just couldn&#8217;t make it stick enough to progress to an impeachment vote because people still remembered and approved of his handling of 9/11.  But, that is definitely what they were aiming for.  If they had taken control of the House a little sooner in his administration they would have gotten there I assure you.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to re-argue the Nixon case because positions are so hardened after all these years it would be a waste of both of our time.  Just suffice it to say that I disagree with your over-simplified and incomplete summary of the situation.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 20:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The peaceful turn-over of power to the next administration ended first with Nixon’s impeachment followed by the attempted impeachments of Reagan and Bush, and by the actual impeachment of Trump. &lt;/i&gt;

There was no attempt to impeach Reagan, Bush pere or Bush fils.  There actually were hearings on impeachment resolutions in re Nixon, but he resigned before the House voted.  There was a reason there were impeachment resolution in re Nixon: his campaign staff committed crimes, and he authorized efforts to bribe them to fall on their swords.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The peaceful turn-over of power to the next administration ended first with Nixon’s impeachment followed by the attempted impeachments of Reagan and Bush, and by the actual impeachment of Trump. </i></p>
<p>There was no attempt to impeach Reagan, Bush pere or Bush fils.  There actually were hearings on impeachment resolutions in re Nixon, but he resigned before the House voted.  There was a reason there were impeachment resolution in re Nixon: his campaign staff committed crimes, and he authorized efforts to bribe them to fall on their swords.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 20:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Irv on May 14, 2020 at 1:49 pm said:
The peaceful turn-over of power to the next administration ended first with Nixon’s impeachment followed by the attempted impeachments of Reagan and Bush, and by the actual impeachment of Trump. It was also signaled at an end by Clinton’s people when they sabotaged all the computers and typewriters in the White House by removing the Ws before they left.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with this.  I don&#039;t know how it will turn out.  How many people have read Kurt Schlicter&#039;s novel, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-Republic-Kurt-Schlichter-ebook/dp/B01M0H7WQZ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;People&#039;s Republic?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;  I hope it remains fiction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Irv on May 14, 2020 at 1:49 pm said:<br />
The peaceful turn-over of power to the next administration ended first with Nixon’s impeachment followed by the attempted impeachments of Reagan and Bush, and by the actual impeachment of Trump. It was also signaled at an end by Clinton’s people when they sabotaged all the computers and typewriters in the White House by removing the Ws before they left.</i></p>
<p>I agree with this.  I don&#8217;t know how it will turn out.  How many people have read Kurt Schlicter&#8217;s novel, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-Republic-Kurt-Schlichter-ebook/dp/B01M0H7WQZ/" rel="nofollow"> &#8220;People&#8217;s Republic?&#8221;</a>  I hope it remains fiction.</p>
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		By: AMartel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 19:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deep down, he knows this.

And his buddies know it, too.  About him and about themselves.  
They&#039;re no Michael Flynn, person of actual accomplishment.
And they are NOT going to let him get away with it.
It&#039;s awful/horrifying and comically sad at the same time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep down, he knows this.</p>
<p>And his buddies know it, too.  About him and about themselves.<br />
They&#8217;re no Michael Flynn, person of actual accomplishment.<br />
And they are NOT going to let him get away with it.<br />
It&#8217;s awful/horrifying and comically sad at the same time.</p>
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		By: AMartel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AMartel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 19:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Part of that is confidence born of blind ignorance of not knowing any better, never being told he was wrong, never really having to fight (he never tried a case as a lawyer), never encountering an obstacle that couldn&#039;t be vanquished with the grievance card, other emotional cheats, or (in a pinch) a little help from friends.  Obama almost always projects &quot;winning&quot; but on closer examination it&#039;s cheating.
He didn&#039;t build that.  It took a village.
I also don&#039;t think he&#039;s a fool but he ain&#039;t all that either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of that is confidence born of blind ignorance of not knowing any better, never being told he was wrong, never really having to fight (he never tried a case as a lawyer), never encountering an obstacle that couldn&#8217;t be vanquished with the grievance card, other emotional cheats, or (in a pinch) a little help from friends.  Obama almost always projects &#8220;winning&#8221; but on closer examination it&#8217;s cheating.<br />
He didn&#8217;t build that.  It took a village.<br />
I also don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a fool but he ain&#8217;t all that either.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 19:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson:

I have long thought those who think Obama is a fool are - foolish.

It is one of the many times when people underestimate the enemy.  Not only do I believe it&#039;s incorrect, I also believe it&#039;s dangerous.

I never thought Obama to be anything close to being a fool.  Now, I don&#039;t think he&#039;s a genius.  But I think he&#039;s smart, strategic, aware, and well able to pull off a certain persona that appeals to people and disarms people.

Does that mean he acts totally alone, and is 100% in charge of everything he does and every tactic he comes up with?  No.  He has leftist allies, supporters, colleagues, advisors.  But he is a very big player in the decisions he makes and the actions he takes.  He is a leftist ideologue and always has been. He has been told, and has believed, ever since early adulthood, that he can and will be president.  He is also ruthless, as I have written several times before.

The jury is not out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Nathanson:</p>
<p>I have long thought those who think Obama is a fool are &#8211; foolish.</p>
<p>It is one of the many times when people underestimate the enemy.  Not only do I believe it&#8217;s incorrect, I also believe it&#8217;s dangerous.</p>
<p>I never thought Obama to be anything close to being a fool.  Now, I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a genius.  But I think he&#8217;s smart, strategic, aware, and well able to pull off a certain persona that appeals to people and disarms people.</p>
<p>Does that mean he acts totally alone, and is 100% in charge of everything he does and every tactic he comes up with?  No.  He has leftist allies, supporters, colleagues, advisors.  But he is a very big player in the decisions he makes and the actions he takes.  He is a leftist ideologue and always has been. He has been told, and has believed, ever since early adulthood, that he can and will be president.  He is also ruthless, as I have written several times before.</p>
<p>The jury is not out.</p>
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		By: Ackler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link, Snow.

If one needed any further evidence on the importance of control of the presidency and the Senate for judicial appointments...here it is.

Sullivan well knows he will be smacked down by the D.C. Circuit. That&#039;s not the point. The point is to keep the Flynn circus in the news a little bit longer, so the MSM can spin, spin and spin it as more evidence of the partisan DOJ, Flynn&#039;s obvious guilt of....something, and Trump&#039;s obvious undue influence. More time for faux outraged tirades about Trump turning our legal system into a banana republic.

Progressives are masters of political projection. Whenever they accuse Trump or anyone in his administration of anything improper, you can bet the Obama administration was guilty of exactly that thing and/or the next Democrat administration will be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Snow.</p>
<p>If one needed any further evidence on the importance of control of the presidency and the Senate for judicial appointments&#8230;here it is.</p>
<p>Sullivan well knows he will be smacked down by the D.C. Circuit. That&#8217;s not the point. The point is to keep the Flynn circus in the news a little bit longer, so the MSM can spin, spin and spin it as more evidence of the partisan DOJ, Flynn&#8217;s obvious guilt of&#8230;.something, and Trump&#8217;s obvious undue influence. More time for faux outraged tirades about Trump turning our legal system into a banana republic.</p>
<p>Progressives are masters of political projection. Whenever they accuse Trump or anyone in his administration of anything improper, you can bet the Obama administration was guilty of exactly that thing and/or the next Democrat administration will be.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 19:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson:

What part of guilty of perjury when accused until proven innocent belongs to a fool?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Nathanson:</p>
<p>What part of guilty of perjury when accused until proven innocent belongs to a fool?</p>
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