See https://www.thecollegefix.com/former-emory-u-professor-pleads-guilty-of-hiding-ties-to-chinese-government/

In a way, its not that WE see it right, and they see it wrong

Its they see it more wrong and we see it less wrong, but even fewer want to see it right with warts and all…

and the smarter a person is the harder it is to do anything, as they refuse all attempts to broaden that, just as they sit and complain that the left refuses. We will never have a clear image of WWII and things that happen as long as events like Anne Frank become iconic and the others are erased and not compared and contrasted – huge push back on that… same with knowing when we are erasing events that were known, like Freda Utley… such big influence, now is gone…

so not only is the idea of looking at the past and finding out about it and having a clear picture goes south, the image of that past is now in flux its not fixed and expanding understanding, its mutable with us not noticing its changing. This is why the left says such inane things… if you take what they say, and realize they will work on the mutable past in the future, what they say now that is inane WILL be the history…

i fear no one will read this…

I see we can add vanity to your list of shortcomings.

Also, the word ‘Oriental’ is not preferred when talking about people. There I go again….

I don’t care about your preferences.

Well said, Artfldgr. That single sentence sums up so much of why so many living in the first world are miserable.

(Oh, and yes, I did know the mattress girl went red pill.)

And I wondered what Bromage considered “robust” about the data out of China, and what exactly he might have been looking at that gave him that opinion?

One of the online sources I am looking at for a tally of “Coronavirus deaths by country”–which is supposedly updated every day at midnight GMT–froze the line for Chinese statistics a couple of weeks ago and, since then, just doesn’t report any.

Then, of course, there have been the media mentions of reports from the Chinese about how there are no more deaths from the Chinese Coronavirus in Wuhan, and about how–in all of China–there are only a couple of thousand deaths, etc.

Yeah, right.

Given this, I haven’t tried to dig any deeper. Haven’t cared to try, because I’m pretty sure I wasn’t going to find any accurate figures from the Chinese government.

So, for all I know, there is a monstrous wave of Chinese Coronavirus illnesses still raging right now in China, a Pandemic that is mowing down and killing people in the millions.

As I wrote in another comment here, I very much doubt that we will ever get a true accounting of the death toll in China due to this Chinese Coronavirus.