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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2020 19:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yah - pay no attention to that other man -- and Epstein killed himself...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yah &#8211; pay no attention to that other man &#8212; and Epstein killed himself&#8230;</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2020 11:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan--A Wuhanfluicide?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan&#8211;A Wuhanfluicide?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/05/covid-what-the-chinese-knew-and-when-they-knew-it/#comment-2493060</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2020 02:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well. This is unexpected. Will check back in 3 days and see if there are any developments.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/chinese-scientist-on-verge-of-very-significant-coronavirus-findings-murdered-in-pittsburgh

&lt;blockquote&gt; A well respected scientist at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center who was on the verge of making “very significant findings” in the fight against the coronavirus was murdered over the weekend inside his home.

Dr. Bing Liu, 37, who is from China, “was shot multiple times around noon Saturday inside his home in the 200 block of Elm Court,” the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. “Police believe that Mr. Liu was shot by another man — identified later by the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office as Hao Gu, 46, of Pittsburgh — who then got into his car parked about 100 yards away on Charlemagne Circle and killed himself.”

Police say the attack happened when Liu was home by himself and that the two men knew each other, but they did not indicate how, and they did not disclose any details on a possible motive for the incident. Law enforcement officials indicated that an investigation is ongoing.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. This is unexpected. Will check back in 3 days and see if there are any developments.<br />
<a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/chinese-scientist-on-verge-of-very-significant-coronavirus-findings-murdered-in-pittsburgh" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailywire.com/news/chinese-scientist-on-verge-of-very-significant-coronavirus-findings-murdered-in-pittsburgh</a></p>
<blockquote><p> A well respected scientist at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center who was on the verge of making “very significant findings” in the fight against the coronavirus was murdered over the weekend inside his home.</p>
<p>Dr. Bing Liu, 37, who is from China, “was shot multiple times around noon Saturday inside his home in the 200 block of Elm Court,” the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. “Police believe that Mr. Liu was shot by another man — identified later by the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office as Hao Gu, 46, of Pittsburgh — who then got into his car parked about 100 yards away on Charlemagne Circle and killed himself.”</p>
<p>Police say the attack happened when Liu was home by himself and that the two men knew each other, but they did not indicate how, and they did not disclose any details on a possible motive for the incident. Law enforcement officials indicated that an investigation is ongoing.
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/05/covid-what-the-chinese-knew-and-when-they-knew-it/#comment-2493006</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 21:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fauci isn&#039;t the only person at the top of the medical elite with some problems.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/neil_ferguson_who_started_the_lockdown_panic_cheats_on_his_own_lockdown.html
&lt;blockquote&gt; Ferguson has often been wrong. When Frederick Forsyth blasted the British government for relying on Ferguson, he referenced past Ferguson predictions:
...
With that track record, it&#039;s possible that Ferguson doesn&#039;t believe in his own data. That would explain the major story that broke in Britain’s Telegraph newspaper.  It seems that Ferguson was forced to resign from his government advisory position because, while he was on lockdown, he got several visits from his girlfriend, a married woman with two children:

&lt;b&gt;Professor Neil Ferguson allowed the woman to visit him at home during the lockdown while lecturing the public on the need for strict social distancing in order to reduce the spread of coronavirus. &lt;/b&gt;The woman lives with her husband and their children in another house.
...
Ms Staats, a left-wing campaigner, made a second visit on April 8 &lt;b&gt;despite telling friends she suspected that her husband, an academic in his 30s, had symptoms of coronavirus.&lt;/b&gt;

She and her husband live together with their two children in a £1.9 million home, but are understood to be in an open marriage.

The icing on this cake is that Staats, the married girlfriend in the posh London home, works for an anti-Semitic, hard-left Soros-funded organization:
...
With news of Ferguson’s hypocritical, narcissistic conduct, Tucker Carlson put together a 10-minute segment about the bold-faced hypocrisy that characterizes our political class. These people are a disgrace:
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
Not a thought given to the people exposed by Staats traveling across town, but don&#039;t &lt;em&gt;you &lt;/em&gt;dare!

Scroll on to the end and watch Tucker Carlson castigate the entitlement narcissism of our betters.

Icing on the cake: as Tucker observes, Ferguson had COVID himself, but claimed he thought he was immune to further infection, despite all the news stories we see where that is not yet a proven fact.

I don&#039;t hold to the idea of &quot;white privilege,&quot; but there sure is a lot of &quot;politician and pundit privilege&quot; in the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fauci isn&#8217;t the only person at the top of the medical elite with some problems.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/neil_ferguson_who_started_the_lockdown_panic_cheats_on_his_own_lockdown.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/neil_ferguson_who_started_the_lockdown_panic_cheats_on_his_own_lockdown.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p> Ferguson has often been wrong. When Frederick Forsyth blasted the British government for relying on Ferguson, he referenced past Ferguson predictions:<br />
&#8230;<br />
With that track record, it&#8217;s possible that Ferguson doesn&#8217;t believe in his own data. That would explain the major story that broke in Britain’s Telegraph newspaper.  It seems that Ferguson was forced to resign from his government advisory position because, while he was on lockdown, he got several visits from his girlfriend, a married woman with two children:</p>
<p><b>Professor Neil Ferguson allowed the woman to visit him at home during the lockdown while lecturing the public on the need for strict social distancing in order to reduce the spread of coronavirus. </b>The woman lives with her husband and their children in another house.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Ms Staats, a left-wing campaigner, made a second visit on April 8 <b>despite telling friends she suspected that her husband, an academic in his 30s, had symptoms of coronavirus.</b></p>
<p>She and her husband live together with their two children in a £1.9 million home, but are understood to be in an open marriage.</p>
<p>The icing on this cake is that Staats, the married girlfriend in the posh London home, works for an anti-Semitic, hard-left Soros-funded organization:<br />
&#8230;<br />
With news of Ferguson’s hypocritical, narcissistic conduct, Tucker Carlson put together a 10-minute segment about the bold-faced hypocrisy that characterizes our political class. These people are a disgrace:
</p></blockquote>
<p>Not a thought given to the people exposed by Staats traveling across town, but don&#8217;t <em>you </em>dare!</p>
<p>Scroll on to the end and watch Tucker Carlson castigate the entitlement narcissism of our betters.</p>
<p>Icing on the cake: as Tucker observes, Ferguson had COVID himself, but claimed he thought he was immune to further infection, despite all the news stories we see where that is not yet a proven fact.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hold to the idea of &#8220;white privilege,&#8221; but there sure is a lot of &#8220;politician and pundit privilege&#8221; in the world.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/05/covid-what-the-chinese-knew-and-when-they-knew-it/#comment-2492980</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 20:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s pretty clear that Fauci should have recused himself from making any recommendations, as he had a definite professional interest in downplaying any dangers from the virus.  His connection was at least as strong as, if not stronger than, any Sessions-Russia connections.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Three years later, though—&lt;b&gt;in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium&lt;/b&gt; and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began. The NIH established a framework for determining how the research would go forward: scientists have to get approval from a panel of experts, who would decide whether the risks were justified.

&lt;b&gt;The reviews were indeed conducted—but in secret, for which the NIH has drawn criticism. &lt;/b&gt;In early 2019, after a reporter for Science magazine discovered that the NIH had approved two influenza research projects that used gain of function methods, scientists who oppose this kind of research excoriated the NIH in an editorial in the Washington Post.

&quot;We have serious doubts about whether these experiments should be conducted at all,&quot; wrote Tom Inglesby of Johns Hopkins University and Marc Lipsitch of Harvard.&lt;b&gt; &quot;[W]ith deliberations kept behind closed doors, none of us will have the opportunity to understand how the government arrived at these decisions or to judge the rigor and integrity of that process.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

FISA, NIH - who else is making decisions behind closed doors?
(Or better, who isn&#039;t?)

BTW, to the &quot;it&#039;s all Trump&#039;s fault&quot; brigades: there is absolutely no reason why he, or even his staff, would have been informed that (a) the research had existed; (b) there was a moratorium on it; (c) the moratorium ended; (d) China was getting part of the funding.
Some things just don&#039;t make it to the Presidential briefings; that&#039;s why it&#039;s important for each administration to have their own people at the head of, and also in the body of, all the agencies.
Plus, he was kinda busy the last three years -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty clear that Fauci should have recused himself from making any recommendations, as he had a definite professional interest in downplaying any dangers from the virus.  His connection was at least as strong as, if not stronger than, any Sessions-Russia connections.</p>
<blockquote><p>Three years later, though—<b>in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium</b> and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began. The NIH established a framework for determining how the research would go forward: scientists have to get approval from a panel of experts, who would decide whether the risks were justified.</p>
<p><b>The reviews were indeed conducted—but in secret, for which the NIH has drawn criticism. </b>In early 2019, after a reporter for Science magazine discovered that the NIH had approved two influenza research projects that used gain of function methods, scientists who oppose this kind of research excoriated the NIH in an editorial in the Washington Post.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have serious doubts about whether these experiments should be conducted at all,&#8221; wrote Tom Inglesby of Johns Hopkins University and Marc Lipsitch of Harvard.<b> &#8220;[W]ith deliberations kept behind closed doors, none of us will have the opportunity to understand how the government arrived at these decisions or to judge the rigor and integrity of that process.</b>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>FISA, NIH &#8211; who else is making decisions behind closed doors?<br />
(Or better, who isn&#8217;t?)</p>
<p>BTW, to the &#8220;it&#8217;s all Trump&#8217;s fault&#8221; brigades: there is absolutely no reason why he, or even his staff, would have been informed that (a) the research had existed; (b) there was a moratorium on it; (c) the moratorium ended; (d) China was getting part of the funding.<br />
Some things just don&#8217;t make it to the Presidential briefings; that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s important for each administration to have their own people at the head of, and also in the body of, all the agencies.<br />
Plus, he was kinda busy the last three years &#8211;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 20:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr on May 5, 2020 at 11:20 pm said:
Bryan Lovely: Doctor Defenestration Demonstration…
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Indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr on May 5, 2020 at 11:20 pm said:<br />
Bryan Lovely: Doctor Defenestration Demonstration…<br />
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/05/covid-what-the-chinese-knew-and-when-they-knew-it/#comment-2492918</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 12:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate--there are reports that the research on bat Coronaviruses that was carried out here in the U.S. was shut down in 2014 because this “Gain of Function” (GOF) research to increase the communicability of the virus was considered too dangerous, and it was this research—partially funded by the NIH--that was transferred to China, and continued at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.  


See, for instance 

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741 

and also  https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1253135/coronavirus-genetically-engineered-bioweapon-wuhan-lab-leak-covid19-spt

Note the long correction at the end of the Express article--trying to thread the needle?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate&#8211;there are reports that the research on bat Coronaviruses that was carried out here in the U.S. was shut down in 2014 because this “Gain of Function” (GOF) research to increase the communicability of the virus was considered too dangerous, and it was this research—partially funded by the NIH&#8211;that was transferred to China, and continued at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.  </p>
<p>See, for instance </p>
<p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741</a> </p>
<p>and also  <a href="https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1253135/coronavirus-genetically-engineered-bioweapon-wuhan-lab-leak-covid19-spt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1253135/coronavirus-genetically-engineered-bioweapon-wuhan-lab-leak-covid19-spt</a></p>
<p>Note the long correction at the end of the Express article&#8211;trying to thread the needle?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 03:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely: Doctor Defenestration Demonstration...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan Lovely: Doctor Defenestration Demonstration&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 02:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of health workers being &quot;disappeared&quot;, have we all read about the three Russian doctors who have managed to fall out of hospital windows? (Two have died, one is in critical condition.)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/europe/russia-medical-workers-windows-intl/index.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of health workers being &#8220;disappeared&#8221;, have we all read about the three Russian doctors who have managed to fall out of hospital windows? (Two have died, one is in critical condition.)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/europe/russia-medical-workers-windows-intl/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/europe/russia-medical-workers-windows-intl/index.html</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 00:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From pjmedia: 
“Tedros is really an outstanding person,” Fauci said March 25 at a White House news briefing. “I’ve known him from the time that he was the minister of health in Ethiopia. I mean, obviously, over the years anyone who says that the WHO has not had problems has not been watching the WHO. But I think under his leadership they’ve done very well.
“He has been all over this,” Fauci added, referring to the coronavirus response.
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Dr. Fauci said this on March 25, about the corrupt, China-infiltrated WHO.
Navarro, Trump&#039;s trade guy, says China controls by infiltration and/or bribery, 5 of the 15 major UN subunits, of which  WHO is one.

Fauci is IMO a leftist working for US economic decline with all his 2nd virus wave talk, trying to delay and slow any economic recovery. 20% of the American workforce is on unemployment right now, and the number keeps rising. Fauci does not care, period.

A friend needed to fly to Minneapolis for work (praise God!), but for 5 days  was unable to fly because United kept canceling the few flights now available due to lack of passengers. 
Here is a measure of where we really are: He today reports Houston International Airport, a United hub, is empty; lights are off; no food available; no people. He is one of four passengers on a Boeing 737 flying from Texas to Minnesota, which normally seats about 140!

We are in a world of hurt, and I fear this will work to China&#039;s ultimate advantage. It may be speculated the spreading of COVID was not accidental; when Xi has 1.4 billion people to play with, what are a few hundred thousand dead? Nothing at all, and get those virus-carrying Wuhanese on planes to the US and Europe stat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From pjmedia:<br />
“Tedros is really an outstanding person,” Fauci said March 25 at a White House news briefing. “I’ve known him from the time that he was the minister of health in Ethiopia. I mean, obviously, over the years anyone who says that the WHO has not had problems has not been watching the WHO. But I think under his leadership they’ve done very well.<br />
“He has been all over this,” Fauci added, referring to the coronavirus response.<br />
********************<br />
Dr. Fauci said this on March 25, about the corrupt, China-infiltrated WHO.<br />
Navarro, Trump&#8217;s trade guy, says China controls by infiltration and/or bribery, 5 of the 15 major UN subunits, of which  WHO is one.</p>
<p>Fauci is IMO a leftist working for US economic decline with all his 2nd virus wave talk, trying to delay and slow any economic recovery. 20% of the American workforce is on unemployment right now, and the number keeps rising. Fauci does not care, period.</p>
<p>A friend needed to fly to Minneapolis for work (praise God!), but for 5 days  was unable to fly because United kept canceling the few flights now available due to lack of passengers.<br />
Here is a measure of where we really are: He today reports Houston International Airport, a United hub, is empty; lights are off; no food available; no people. He is one of four passengers on a Boeing 737 flying from Texas to Minnesota, which normally seats about 140!</p>
<p>We are in a world of hurt, and I fear this will work to China&#8217;s ultimate advantage. It may be speculated the spreading of COVID was not accidental; when Xi has 1.4 billion people to play with, what are a few hundred thousand dead? Nothing at all, and get those virus-carrying Wuhanese on planes to the US and Europe stat.</p>
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