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		By: Indigo Red		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tend to believe Joe&#039;s statement when he says, &quot;I did not have sex with that woman - Miss Lewinsky.&quot; But then, I don&#039;t believe Joe knows what century he&#039;s in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to believe Joe&#8217;s statement when he says, &#8220;I did not have sex with that woman &#8211; Miss Lewinsky.&#8221; But then, I don&#8217;t believe Joe knows what century he&#8217;s in.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 18:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine:

But many of those papers in that record of what they did to Flynn occurred &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; Trump&#039;s election.  They may have thought they could still take him out, but they didn&#039;t think Hillary would win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>But many of those papers in that record of what they did to Flynn occurred <i>after</i> Trump&#8217;s election.  They may have thought they could still take him out, but they didn&#8217;t think Hillary would win.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/joe-biden-responds/#comment-2492506</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[richf:

Biden was only chosen to be the nominee (chosen by the DNC, that is) after a number of primaries failed to produce a frontrunner other than Sanders.  It was Sanders who was on a path to win the nomination, or at least to be the clear leader on the first ballot. They knew that he did not have a good chance of beating Trump, and so they engineered the dropping out of all serious contenders but Biden.  Biden was chosen for various reasons, but the main one was that they felt he had the best chance of beating Trump, and that he would continue Obama&#039;s agenda.  I believe that Obama was a big player in these machinations to be rid of Sanders. My recollection is that the whole thing was kicked off with a public statement by Obama to the effect that Sanders was too radical.  Then some phone calls were made and voila!  A lot of candidates dropped out, and Biden beat Sanders in the south.  That did it.  If those people hadn&#039;t dropped out, would Biden be the frontrunner today? I very much doubt it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>richf:</p>
<p>Biden was only chosen to be the nominee (chosen by the DNC, that is) after a number of primaries failed to produce a frontrunner other than Sanders.  It was Sanders who was on a path to win the nomination, or at least to be the clear leader on the first ballot. They knew that he did not have a good chance of beating Trump, and so they engineered the dropping out of all serious contenders but Biden.  Biden was chosen for various reasons, but the main one was that they felt he had the best chance of beating Trump, and that he would continue Obama&#8217;s agenda.  I believe that Obama was a big player in these machinations to be rid of Sanders. My recollection is that the whole thing was kicked off with a public statement by Obama to the effect that Sanders was too radical.  Then some phone calls were made and voila!  A lot of candidates dropped out, and Biden beat Sanders in the south.  That did it.  If those people hadn&#8217;t dropped out, would Biden be the frontrunner today? I very much doubt it.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/joe-biden-responds/#comment-2492505</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, the truly pathetic thing is that Democrats could basically make this whole thing go away if they would just admit that they treated Kavanaugh badly and were wrong to deal with the situation that way.  It&#039;s not like they&#039;re ever going to get Kavanaugh off the court anyway, and they could still whip up a decent amount of hysteria the next time a woman accuses a Republican.

But like a Planet of the Fonzies, they just can&#039;t admit they were wrong.  They would rather blow up their Presidential nomination six months before the election.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the truly pathetic thing is that Democrats could basically make this whole thing go away if they would just admit that they treated Kavanaugh badly and were wrong to deal with the situation that way.  It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re ever going to get Kavanaugh off the court anyway, and they could still whip up a decent amount of hysteria the next time a woman accuses a Republican.</p>
<p>But like a Planet of the Fonzies, they just can&#8217;t admit they were wrong.  They would rather blow up their Presidential nomination six months before the election.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: richf		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/joe-biden-responds/#comment-2492501</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 16:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Simple justice would demand that we get to the bottom of this. But politically the truth or falsehood of the allegations won&#039;t matter.

John Kennedy was portrayed as young, hip, idealistic, articulate, and &quot;visionary&quot;, with a &quot;common touch&quot;. In actuality, JFK was in many ways less progressive than the much-less-popular LBJ, who actually passed the kind of legislation that JFK talked about, but that didn&#039;t matter; what mattered was the image, the narrative.

Democratic candidates for decades took that image as a model, and some of them were elected based on it, including Barack Obama.

Joe Biden can&#039;t do that, because he doesn&#039;t fit the model in any way. He&#039;s not young, he&#039;s not hip, he&#039;s not idealistic. He&#039;s certainly not articulate - based on recent performances, he&#039;d have trouble reciting the alphabet without messing it up.

His chief qualification, from the Party&#039;s POV, is that he&#039;s not Trump. But EVERY Democratic candidate is not Trump. 

So the Party leadership, and the MSM, are caught on the horns of a dilemma. On the one hand, Biden&#039;s not the kind of candidate that they want; on the other hand, he IS the candidate selected by the primary process that they created. The process obviously failed.

They can&#039;t remove him without admitting that they screwed things up; they have to make it look as if HE screwed things up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple justice would demand that we get to the bottom of this. But politically the truth or falsehood of the allegations won&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>John Kennedy was portrayed as young, hip, idealistic, articulate, and &#8220;visionary&#8221;, with a &#8220;common touch&#8221;. In actuality, JFK was in many ways less progressive than the much-less-popular LBJ, who actually passed the kind of legislation that JFK talked about, but that didn&#8217;t matter; what mattered was the image, the narrative.</p>
<p>Democratic candidates for decades took that image as a model, and some of them were elected based on it, including Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Joe Biden can&#8217;t do that, because he doesn&#8217;t fit the model in any way. He&#8217;s not young, he&#8217;s not hip, he&#8217;s not idealistic. He&#8217;s certainly not articulate &#8211; based on recent performances, he&#8217;d have trouble reciting the alphabet without messing it up.</p>
<p>His chief qualification, from the Party&#8217;s POV, is that he&#8217;s not Trump. But EVERY Democratic candidate is not Trump. </p>
<p>So the Party leadership, and the MSM, are caught on the horns of a dilemma. On the one hand, Biden&#8217;s not the kind of candidate that they want; on the other hand, he IS the candidate selected by the primary process that they created. The process obviously failed.</p>
<p>They can&#8217;t remove him without admitting that they screwed things up; they have to make it look as if HE screwed things up.</p>
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		By: JohnTyler		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/joe-biden-responds/#comment-2492498</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 16:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s get real. 

If the demokrate elites want Biden out, he will be out; their &quot;rules&quot; are meaningless and are readily modified to suit the whims of the demokrat elites. 

Sanders, if not given the nod, can bitch and complain all he wants, but so what. 
What is he going to do?? 
Have his supporters vote for Trump?
No way; recall that Sanders and the dem elites consider Trump an english speaking clone of Adolph Hitler (minus the Charlie Chaplin mustache). 

The dem elites will produce the candidate they wish to put forward; if not Biden, then somebody else. 
The ends justifies the means.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s get real. </p>
<p>If the demokrate elites want Biden out, he will be out; their &#8220;rules&#8221; are meaningless and are readily modified to suit the whims of the demokrat elites. </p>
<p>Sanders, if not given the nod, can bitch and complain all he wants, but so what.<br />
What is he going to do??<br />
Have his supporters vote for Trump?<br />
No way; recall that Sanders and the dem elites consider Trump an english speaking clone of Adolph Hitler (minus the Charlie Chaplin mustache). </p>
<p>The dem elites will produce the candidate they wish to put forward; if not Biden, then somebody else.<br />
The ends justifies the means.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/joe-biden-responds/#comment-2492490</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 14:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And now we have Democrat politicians who are also now anatomical experts.  

Who knew?

See https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/democrat-lawmaker-claims-tara-reade-lying-joe-biden-position-female-vagina-metoo/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now we have Democrat politicians who are also now anatomical experts.  </p>
<p>Who knew?</p>
<p>See <a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/democrat-lawmaker-claims-tara-reade-lying-joe-biden-position-female-vagina-metoo/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/democrat-lawmaker-claims-tara-reade-lying-joe-biden-position-female-vagina-metoo/</a></p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/joe-biden-responds/#comment-2492489</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; so Andrew can maintain his own personal position in polite society.&lt;/i&gt;

RawMuscleGlutes is lobbing medicine balls from his pink crystal palace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> so Andrew can maintain his own personal position in polite society.</i></p>
<p>RawMuscleGlutes is lobbing medicine balls from his pink crystal palace.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/joe-biden-responds/#comment-2492487</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 12:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“I’ll vote for him anyway, because Trump.“

That’s not honesty.  That’s decadence.  Sullivan lies to himself by bringing up Trump’s alleged behavior but, as he himself points out, this isn’t about the mistreatment of women.  This is about elites like Biden enforcing standards on others that they refuse to live by themselves.  This is about justice, fairness, equality...heck, it is about the very principles of democracy itself.

And Sullivan is willing to throw all that on the trash heap, not because Trump has done an exceptionally bad job as President but so Andrew can maintain his own personal position in polite society.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I’ll vote for him anyway, because Trump.“</p>
<p>That’s not honesty.  That’s decadence.  Sullivan lies to himself by bringing up Trump’s alleged behavior but, as he himself points out, this isn’t about the mistreatment of women.  This is about elites like Biden enforcing standards on others that they refuse to live by themselves.  This is about justice, fairness, equality&#8230;heck, it is about the very principles of democracy itself.</p>
<p>And Sullivan is willing to throw all that on the trash heap, not because Trump has done an exceptionally bad job as President but so Andrew can maintain his own personal position in polite society.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 12:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I forget which British spy series it was I saw this portrayed in, but in this series, set in around the 1950s or so, they had very tight control over the classified documents they used.

These classified documents were segregated on a separate floor, there was a person in charge of these documents who was always the first person you encountered, seated at a desk in front of the files, when you got off the elevator.

You were always asked to justify why you needed the files you requested, and you had to personally sign each individual file folder out and then in again, when you returned it to the file room.

This kind of tight control apparently ain&#039;t what we are dealing with here.  

I&#039;ve seen reports that Biden&#039;s operatives have already been trolling through whatever papers Biden might have deposited in the University of Delaware Archives, so--if there ever were any incriminating documents there—I&#039;d bet that they aren&#039;t there now. 

As for whatever relevant documents there might be in the National Archives, you might remember just how secure the classified documents they held from the Clinton Administration were in the face of Clinton Administration National Security Advisor Sandy Burger&#039;s being able to walk in, easily get access to them, stuff Top Secret documents into his pants and socks--all this apparently unobserved--and just waltz outside, undetected, to destroy them.* 

So, I hold no real hope for finding any relevant documents there either.

The National Archives may have been called the “Nation&#039;s Memory,” but they are apparently just too trusting.

* I&#039;ve read accounts by researchers working on a history of American Communism who said that, when they requested the files in the National Archives that were supposed to contain the records of things like the questioning/interrogations that were done, under oath, of suspected American Communists which the Archive&#039;s Indexes said they had, in a notable number of instances they found that, when they got them, those file folders no longer contained the key documents they were supposed to contain, they were empty.  

Someone—and, over time, probably a lot of interested someones--had gotten hold of and cleaned out, had “sanitized” these files.

P.S.--As we are discovering, the Obama Administration operatives who were framing General Flynn created what looks like it will be a robust and very incriminating “paper trail,” but they only did this because they thought that Hillary would inevitably win, and that those records would never see the light of day, would, in fact, redound to their credit.   

Even so, it has taken three years to get public access to documents which should have, by rights, been produced several years ago.

It appears that in our political system, government and, indeed, pretty much everywhere else in our society, it is often just SOP, and far too easy, to have computer “glitches” that destroy key information/documents, and key documents which “can&#039;t be found,” have been “lost,” are blank, have “not been filed,” or which have mysteriously just “disappeared.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forget which British spy series it was I saw this portrayed in, but in this series, set in around the 1950s or so, they had very tight control over the classified documents they used.</p>
<p>These classified documents were segregated on a separate floor, there was a person in charge of these documents who was always the first person you encountered, seated at a desk in front of the files, when you got off the elevator.</p>
<p>You were always asked to justify why you needed the files you requested, and you had to personally sign each individual file folder out and then in again, when you returned it to the file room.</p>
<p>This kind of tight control apparently ain&#8217;t what we are dealing with here.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen reports that Biden&#8217;s operatives have already been trolling through whatever papers Biden might have deposited in the University of Delaware Archives, so&#8211;if there ever were any incriminating documents there—I&#8217;d bet that they aren&#8217;t there now. </p>
<p>As for whatever relevant documents there might be in the National Archives, you might remember just how secure the classified documents they held from the Clinton Administration were in the face of Clinton Administration National Security Advisor Sandy Burger&#8217;s being able to walk in, easily get access to them, stuff Top Secret documents into his pants and socks&#8211;all this apparently unobserved&#8211;and just waltz outside, undetected, to destroy them.* </p>
<p>So, I hold no real hope for finding any relevant documents there either.</p>
<p>The National Archives may have been called the “Nation&#8217;s Memory,” but they are apparently just too trusting.</p>
<p>* I&#8217;ve read accounts by researchers working on a history of American Communism who said that, when they requested the files in the National Archives that were supposed to contain the records of things like the questioning/interrogations that were done, under oath, of suspected American Communists which the Archive&#8217;s Indexes said they had, in a notable number of instances they found that, when they got them, those file folders no longer contained the key documents they were supposed to contain, they were empty.  </p>
<p>Someone—and, over time, probably a lot of interested someones&#8211;had gotten hold of and cleaned out, had “sanitized” these files.</p>
<p>P.S.&#8211;As we are discovering, the Obama Administration operatives who were framing General Flynn created what looks like it will be a robust and very incriminating “paper trail,” but they only did this because they thought that Hillary would inevitably win, and that those records would never see the light of day, would, in fact, redound to their credit.   </p>
<p>Even so, it has taken three years to get public access to documents which should have, by rights, been produced several years ago.</p>
<p>It appears that in our political system, government and, indeed, pretty much everywhere else in our society, it is often just SOP, and far too easy, to have computer “glitches” that destroy key information/documents, and key documents which “can&#8217;t be found,” have been “lost,” are blank, have “not been filed,” or which have mysteriously just “disappeared.”</p>
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