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		By: Strange Daze		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Strange Daze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2020 17:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] To challenge yourself you have to hunger for the truth, have the humility to doubt yourself, the time and energy to read alternate sources, and the intelligence to evaluate them. And then you have to have the courage to face what you’ve seen and go against what most of the people you know deeply believe and risk becoming The Other, or keep your mouth shut. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] To challenge yourself you have to hunger for the truth, have the humility to doubt yourself, the time and energy to read alternate sources, and the intelligence to evaluate them. And then you have to have the courage to face what you’ve seen and go against what most of the people you know deeply believe and risk becoming The Other, or keep your mouth shut. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 12:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.--If such a &quot;gain of function&quot;* was, indeed, the aim of this bat Coronavirus research, can someone explain to me why anyone doing legitimate research would want to enhance its ability to infect humans?

*Notice how this &quot;GOF&quot; research is given such an innocent sounding name.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.&#8211;If such a &#8220;gain of function&#8221;* was, indeed, the aim of this bat Coronavirus research, can someone explain to me why anyone doing legitimate research would want to enhance its ability to infect humans?</p>
<p>*Notice how this &#8220;GOF&#8221; research is given such an innocent sounding name.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 12:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of propaganda, there have been reports about how the Chinese have been conducting a world-wide propaganda campaign in an attempt to shift the blame for the origin of their Chinese Cornoavirus onto the US., to portray themselves as having successfully beaten the virus in China, and come to the rescue of a number of countries by donating protective equipment to them.

In the context of this Chinese propaganda campaign, what to make of the below article—from a news source, Asia Times, based in Hong Kong--about the NIH under Dr. Fauci, funding Coronavirus research in Wuhan—despite concerns about serious containment failures in dealing with such dangerous viruses that had resulted in a 2014 ban on such research in the U.S., and, according to this report, an aim of this Gain of Function &quot;(GOF) research – altering natural pathogens to make them more deadly and infectious.&quot; *

https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of propaganda, there have been reports about how the Chinese have been conducting a world-wide propaganda campaign in an attempt to shift the blame for the origin of their Chinese Cornoavirus onto the US., to portray themselves as having successfully beaten the virus in China, and come to the rescue of a number of countries by donating protective equipment to them.</p>
<p>In the context of this Chinese propaganda campaign, what to make of the below article—from a news source, Asia Times, based in Hong Kong&#8211;about the NIH under Dr. Fauci, funding Coronavirus research in Wuhan—despite concerns about serious containment failures in dealing with such dangerous viruses that had resulted in a 2014 ban on such research in the U.S., and, according to this report, an aim of this Gain of Function &#8220;(GOF) research – altering natural pathogens to make them more deadly and infectious.&#8221; *</p>
<p><a href="https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/</a></p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aNanyMouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 00:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cut off all federal $$ to these diploma mills.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut off all federal $$ to these diploma mills.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/a-very-depressing-example-of-how-propaganda-works-on-the-american-public/#comment-2492573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 23:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Politics is downstream of culture.
US colleges &quot;educate&quot; -- actually indoctrinate, the vast majority of elites and elite wannabees, to be leftist, anti-Christian (esp pro-abortion) &#038; anti-capitalism, claiming to favor a better America.
The Dem media are an elite reflection of not-elite wannabees, who want to go to the elite parties. 
As long as US colleges are allowed to discriminate and NOT hire Republican professors, as has been the case for decades now, this reaction to support Trump is just a finger in the dike.

To change the culture, colleges must not be gov&#039;t supported to discriminate against Reps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics is downstream of culture.<br />
US colleges &#8220;educate&#8221; &#8212; actually indoctrinate, the vast majority of elites and elite wannabees, to be leftist, anti-Christian (esp pro-abortion) &amp; anti-capitalism, claiming to favor a better America.<br />
The Dem media are an elite reflection of not-elite wannabees, who want to go to the elite parties.<br />
As long as US colleges are allowed to discriminate and NOT hire Republican professors, as has been the case for decades now, this reaction to support Trump is just a finger in the dike.</p>
<p>To change the culture, colleges must not be gov&#8217;t supported to discriminate against Reps.</p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/a-very-depressing-example-of-how-propaganda-works-on-the-american-public/#comment-2492515</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aNanyMouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 19:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The percentage of people saying the Steele dossier’s findings were “real”... should have been something in the nature of *10%*.&quot;
Not really.
I&#039;ll guess that (considering Pew etc. polling, showing the Postmodern Left to comprise 36% of the electorate), the &quot;pro-Steele&quot; percentage figures to be 30+%. 
(Some of the Postmodern Left figures to hate the Dems and their MSM shills, while some of the Modern Left figures to lap up MSM propaganda.
Those two phenomena are likely more-or-less a wash.
See https://Quillette.com/2019/09/16/understanding-americas-cultural-and-political-Realignment/ .

I advise vs. putting much weight on any such polling.
I&#039;ll quite bet, that increasing numbers of folks (esp. DJT backers) refuse to answer any strangers&#039; phone calls, and thus to participate in such polls, so that the composition of the samples falls far short of really representing public opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The percentage of people saying the Steele dossier’s findings were “real”&#8230; should have been something in the nature of *10%*.&#8221;<br />
Not really.<br />
I&#8217;ll guess that (considering Pew etc. polling, showing the Postmodern Left to comprise 36% of the electorate), the &#8220;pro-Steele&#8221; percentage figures to be 30+%.<br />
(Some of the Postmodern Left figures to hate the Dems and their MSM shills, while some of the Modern Left figures to lap up MSM propaganda.<br />
Those two phenomena are likely more-or-less a wash.<br />
See <a href="https://Quillette.com/2019/09/16/understanding-americas-cultural-and-political-Realignment/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://Quillette.com/2019/09/16/understanding-americas-cultural-and-political-Realignment/</a> .</p>
<p>I advise vs. putting much weight on any such polling.<br />
I&#8217;ll quite bet, that increasing numbers of folks (esp. DJT backers) refuse to answer any strangers&#8217; phone calls, and thus to participate in such polls, so that the composition of the samples falls far short of really representing public opinion.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/a-very-depressing-example-of-how-propaganda-works-on-the-american-public/#comment-2492512</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 19:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I am not sure what is being misrepresented.&lt;/i&gt;

Friedman&#039;s proposal was for a negative income tax, which is not a guaranteed income program.  Murray came to public prominence by advocating that all income support for the non-elderly poor be discontinued apart from unemployment compensation.  IIRC, he included disability benefits on the kill list.  His cash grant program delineated in 2005 incorporated eliminating federal transfers stem-to-stern, including Social Security.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am not sure what is being misrepresented.</i></p>
<p>Friedman&#8217;s proposal was for a negative income tax, which is not a guaranteed income program.  Murray came to public prominence by advocating that all income support for the non-elderly poor be discontinued apart from unemployment compensation.  IIRC, he included disability benefits on the kill list.  His cash grant program delineated in 2005 incorporated eliminating federal transfers stem-to-stern, including Social Security.</p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/05/01/a-very-depressing-example-of-how-propaganda-works-on-the-american-public/#comment-2492510</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aNanyMouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 18:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Correction, to my post yesterday, at 10:40 PM:
&quot;If this power grab doesn’t AROUSE the people, to the extent of Leftist derangement....&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, to my post yesterday, at 10:40 PM:<br />
&#8220;If this power grab doesn’t AROUSE the people, to the extent of Leftist derangement&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dick Illyes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Illyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 16:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For Art Deco:  In Our Hands : A Plan To Replace The Welfare State 
by Charles Murray.    Basic Income pure and simple.  New edition recently out.

https://smile.amazon.com/Our-Hands-Replace-Welfare-State/dp/0844742236/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&#038;qid=&#038;sr=  

I used to buy Murray&#039;s What It Means To Be A Libertarian by the case as part of membership development when I was a Libertarian Party County Chairman years ago.

Yang in his War On Normal People describes the attempts Nixon made to develop a minimal bureaucracy method of addressing poverty,  Greenspan was a major proponent.

I am not sure what is being misrepresented.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Art Deco:  In Our Hands : A Plan To Replace The Welfare State<br />
by Charles Murray.    Basic Income pure and simple.  New edition recently out.</p>
<p><a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Our-Hands-Replace-Welfare-State/dp/0844742236/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&#038;qid=&#038;sr=" rel="nofollow ugc">https://smile.amazon.com/Our-Hands-Replace-Welfare-State/dp/0844742236/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&#038;qid=&#038;sr=</a>  </p>
<p>I used to buy Murray&#8217;s What It Means To Be A Libertarian by the case as part of membership development when I was a Libertarian Party County Chairman years ago.</p>
<p>Yang in his War On Normal People describes the attempts Nixon made to develop a minimal bureaucracy method of addressing poverty,  Greenspan was a major proponent.</p>
<p>I am not sure what is being misrepresented.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 12:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paolo writes, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;However, for my mother – who already at that time had become a combative leftist revolutionary – the Shah’s regime was the epitome of Fascism, colluded with the evil American empire, source of oppression all over the world. For her, as for the progressive intelligentsia in Europe, Khomeini was a brave resister against American occupation; since Israel had recently changed its alliance, from the Soviet sphere of influence to the American one, the love story between progressives and Islam was already all the rage, and still remains as an attitude. &quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Outstanding! More on this please. Details. Background. Development, et cetera.

We have been struggling here to gain insight into the internal  thought processes of leftists and their moral schema, with little success. Even Neo, who had a youth during which she was exposed to relatives with virtually Stalinist allegiances, has been unable to dissect the moral framework these people adopted, or to lay bare their fundamental metaphysical and anthropological assumptions in a way which she finds explanatory. 

What light can you, as an fellow insider of a sort, shed on the development of a radical Marxist comittment?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paolo writes, </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;However, for my mother – who already at that time had become a combative leftist revolutionary – the Shah’s regime was the epitome of Fascism, colluded with the evil American empire, source of oppression all over the world. For her, as for the progressive intelligentsia in Europe, Khomeini was a brave resister against American occupation; since Israel had recently changed its alliance, from the Soviet sphere of influence to the American one, the love story between progressives and Islam was already all the rage, and still remains as an attitude. &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>Outstanding! More on this please. Details. Background. Development, et cetera.</p>
<p>We have been struggling here to gain insight into the internal  thought processes of leftists and their moral schema, with little success. Even Neo, who had a youth during which she was exposed to relatives with virtually Stalinist allegiances, has been unable to dissect the moral framework these people adopted, or to lay bare their fundamental metaphysical and anthropological assumptions in a way which she finds explanatory. </p>
<p>What light can you, as an fellow insider of a sort, shed on the development of a radical Marxist comittment?</p>
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