Comments on: COVID-19: prison testing results

By: neo

neo — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 18:30:53 +0000

Amadeus:

Good to hear, and not at all surprising. I have written (somewhere!) that it would be highly highly surprising and unusual if the virus worked that way (re-infection) except in highly immuno-compromised people.

By: om

om — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:56:53 +0000

Cicero:

Not like you eat raw chicken or raw ground beef as a default menu item? Oh, but that was salmonella and e. coli, those are old news. They never kill anyone, aargh! I wonder does cooking your poultry and beef to the safe temperature ~ 165 deg (have to look it up) protect you from the Bat pox? Let me take a leap of faith; yes for $10,000. 🙂

By: Amadeus 48

Amadeus 48 — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:46:01 +0000

South Korean study today indicates that you can’t get re-infected after you recover. Apparently there was a flaw in the tests that gave a false positive to some recovered patients.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-patients-cant-relapse-south-korean-scientists-believe-rkm8zm7d9

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 05:20:26 +0000

Tyson precipitated the move, IIRC, so as to forestall litigation over their working during the lockdowns if a state wanted more stringent closures.

BTW – on the 50 (57?) experimental cohorts in America — SD likes their choice so far.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/south-dakota-governor-refused-to-implement-stay-sat-home-orders-her-citizens-throw-her-a-parade?utm_content=non_insiders&utm_campaign=dw_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8wkUlBMZOCN3e49uJQCC_G6wyamEH7dPFquPOM2GzxwASE2lLq460ZYMQ5gSFKU5uoZnLJQ4uO6OzT7lCRYAoHS7cKuQ&_hsmi=87132875

By: Cicero

Cicero — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:33:45 +0000

Fox News is reporting that, globally, starvation will kill more than COVID, way more, according to the FAO, a UN arm. 3rd world is as shut down as developed world, so farmers are not farming planetwide.
In the US, meat processors have been told by Trump to keep producing, or, under his emergency powers, he will take them over and get the chickens, pork, and beef out to us (? virus-contaminated?).
Me? I’m going to put chicken and meat in my freezer. Today. It will keep!

By: Cicero

Cicero — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:10:52 +0000

A recent CDC survey yielded that among more than 9,000 U.S. health-care workers who contracted Covid-19, the median age was 42 years old, with 27 deaths.

Do the math!
The death rate, 27/9000=0.003.
That is 0.3%
Hardly a figure sufficient to set your hair on fire.
Doctors, nurses and others in health care have been chronically negligent in following the advice of Dr. Semmelweis in Hungary, mid-19th century, to wash their hands between every patient.

In contrast to the preceding data, with its median age of 42, “the UT Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas… analyzed national data of licensed physicians and found that roughly one-quarter of physicians are over 64 years old and one-third are over 59. California and New York had the highest number of older physicians.”

So a large number of MDs are in the COVID high-risk category by age.

By: Rufus T. Firefly

Rufus T. Firefly — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:48:59 +0000

JFM,

That is a very clever observation. I hadn’t thought of that, but it makes empirical sense. The staff at nursing homes certainly wash their hands more often, and follow better hygiene protocols than the kid handing you change at the local gas station mini-mart, and who knows who touched the pump handle before you gas’sed up your vehicle. And nursing homes are disinfected and scrubbed more often than your local Taco Bell.

By: 0m

0m — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:39:23 +0000

Damned hard to do the isolation, contact tracing, social distancing in a semi-controlled environment like a prison. /sarc It might even be argued that the prisoners are safer from infection when locked up, assuming that the inmates are not actually running the institution, since in theory, in a prison the authorities control ingress/egress, and all the other social interactions. What could go wrong? Ask Jeffrey Ep … aargh, the first COVID-19 fatality in NYC? ;(

By: JFM

JFM — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:40:47 +0000

What if relatively isolated nursing homes and prisons are the last places to get infected rather than the first places to get infected?

We sure need more antibody testing.

By: Batemjo

Batemjo — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:33:27 +0000

You can google plenty of news articles about defective, inaccurate test kits being found, usually provided by some Chinese manufacturer. Sometimes as bad as only 5% accurate.
I’d be wondering if the test being given to the prisoners are even giving valid results, if so many show positive with no symptoms.