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		By: Paolo Pagliaro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paolo Pagliaro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2020 04:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello aNanyMouse 

I mean also them, but not specifically them. Progressive politicians and intellectuals hate whatever obstacles their vision of a globalized society run by them on their morally radical and politically Socialist platform. For these people, Soviet Communism has been a positive experiment which &quot;unfortunately&quot; failed; and they more or less openly still blame the failure on the &quot;backward culture&quot; of these countries, because they were not able to understand and welcome the beauty of Communism.
Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, with their history and experience, know better and can&#039;t be easily fooled. But in one generation, or less, media and cultural pressure from the west will penetrate even there, if something does not happen.

Orban is just one of the expression of this cultural resistance. This does not mean that everything Orban does is pure and just, of course, but the general perspective is that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello aNanyMouse </p>
<p>I mean also them, but not specifically them. Progressive politicians and intellectuals hate whatever obstacles their vision of a globalized society run by them on their morally radical and politically Socialist platform. For these people, Soviet Communism has been a positive experiment which &#8220;unfortunately&#8221; failed; and they more or less openly still blame the failure on the &#8220;backward culture&#8221; of these countries, because they were not able to understand and welcome the beauty of Communism.<br />
Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, with their history and experience, know better and can&#8217;t be easily fooled. But in one generation, or less, media and cultural pressure from the west will penetrate even there, if something does not happen.</p>
<p>Orban is just one of the expression of this cultural resistance. This does not mean that everything Orban does is pure and just, of course, but the general perspective is that one.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2020 04:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sdferr - &quot;Mueller’s team did have these docs, is my surmise. And they buried them.&quot;

A good number of people on Mueller&#039;s team apparently WROTE the docs.

Hubris may have explained the initial failures to destroy the incriminating notes &#038; texts etc, but why in the world did they not eliminate everything after they got control of the investigation?
I&#039;ve always wondered why the Strzok-Page texts even still existed after Trump started pushing back.  Since the IRS and others faced no back-lash on missing messages, documents, whatever -- and Hillary got away with the Bleach Bit-ing of her server -- why not just deep-six as much as they could when they had the chance?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sdferr &#8211; &#8220;Mueller’s team did have these docs, is my surmise. And they buried them.&#8221;</p>
<p>A good number of people on Mueller&#8217;s team apparently WROTE the docs.</p>
<p>Hubris may have explained the initial failures to destroy the incriminating notes &amp; texts etc, but why in the world did they not eliminate everything after they got control of the investigation?<br />
I&#8217;ve always wondered why the Strzok-Page texts even still existed after Trump started pushing back.  Since the IRS and others faced no back-lash on missing messages, documents, whatever &#8212; and Hillary got away with the Bleach Bit-ing of her server &#8212; why not just deep-six as much as they could when they had the chance?</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/04/28/andrew-c-mccarthy-on-the-latest-revelations-in-the-flynn-case/#comment-2492244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 19:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More: Techno Fog tweets a thread with document copies (which see entire) -- 
*** The operation that targeted Flynn: CROSSFIRE RAZOR

1/4/17: FBI field office found “No derogatory information” on Flynn and decided to close RAZOR. 

1/4/17: FBI leadership (STRZOK) went off the rails and targeted Flynn: “Don’t close RAZOR” 

[...] Peter Strzok texts to the FBI Case Manager handling the Crossfire Razor (Flynn) case.

Strzok: &quot;If you haven&#039;t closed RAZOR, don&#039;t do so yet&quot;

Strzok: &quot;7th floor involved&quot; (FBI Leadership)

(Possible use of Logan Act &quot;violations&quot; to keep investigation open) ***

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1255911184538185728]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More: Techno Fog tweets a thread with document copies (which see entire) &#8212;<br />
*** The operation that targeted Flynn: CROSSFIRE RAZOR</p>
<p>1/4/17: FBI field office found “No derogatory information” on Flynn and decided to close RAZOR. </p>
<p>1/4/17: FBI leadership (STRZOK) went off the rails and targeted Flynn: “Don’t close RAZOR” </p>
<p>[&#8230;] Peter Strzok texts to the FBI Case Manager handling the Crossfire Razor (Flynn) case.</p>
<p>Strzok: &#8220;If you haven&#8217;t closed RAZOR, don&#8217;t do so yet&#8221;</p>
<p>Strzok: &#8220;7th floor involved&#8221; (FBI Leadership)</p>
<p>(Possible use of Logan Act &#8220;violations&#8221; to keep investigation open) ***</p>
<p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1255911184538185728" rel="nofollow ugc">https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1255911184538185728</a></p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;. . . how to explain the ability of the FBI to keep the hand written note that was just released–detailing how top leaders at the the FBI were planning to set up Gen. Flynn–secret, and so very closely held?&lt;/i&gt;

A partial answer appears in the following Sen. Chuck Grassley tweet, Snow: 
&quot;New DOJ/Flynn docs are stamped w SCO as in Special Counsels Office
 
Did Mueller have these docs? Why did his team sit on them? What else is Mueller team that cost taxpayers $30+ million hiding? The ppl deserve answers 2restore faith in federal law enforcement agencies&quot;

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckGrassley/status/1255888794206822400

Mueller&#039;s team &lt;b&gt;did&lt;/b&gt; have these docs, is my surmise. And they buried them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>. . . how to explain the ability of the FBI to keep the hand written note that was just released–detailing how top leaders at the the FBI were planning to set up Gen. Flynn–secret, and so very closely held?</i></p>
<p>A partial answer appears in the following Sen. Chuck Grassley tweet, Snow:<br />
&#8220;New DOJ/Flynn docs are stamped w SCO as in Special Counsels Office</p>
<p>Did Mueller have these docs? Why did his team sit on them? What else is Mueller team that cost taxpayers $30+ million hiding? The ppl deserve answers 2restore faith in federal law enforcement agencies&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckGrassley/status/1255888794206822400" rel="nofollow ugc">https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckGrassley/status/1255888794206822400</a></p>
<p>Mueller&#8217;s team <b>did</b> have these docs, is my surmise. And they buried them.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 18:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.--Despite what I&#039;d imagine have been pretty intense and comprehensive efforts to plug the constant leaks coming out of the White House--and how these leaks seem to have diminished in number--if a document or action is important, news of it, quite often, still leaks out.  (This, of course, presupposes that such a leak was not deliberate on the part of President Trump, or his WH staff).  

By way of contrast, if there were any old fashioned patriotic whistle blowers at, say, the FBI, how to explain the ability of the FBI to keep the hand written note that was just released--detailing how top leaders at the the FBI were planning to set up Gen. Flynn--secret, and so very closely held?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.&#8211;Despite what I&#8217;d imagine have been pretty intense and comprehensive efforts to plug the constant leaks coming out of the White House&#8211;and how these leaks seem to have diminished in number&#8211;if a document or action is important, news of it, quite often, still leaks out.  (This, of course, presupposes that such a leak was not deliberate on the part of President Trump, or his WH staff).  </p>
<p>By way of contrast, if there were any old fashioned patriotic whistle blowers at, say, the FBI, how to explain the ability of the FBI to keep the hand written note that was just released&#8211;detailing how top leaders at the the FBI were planning to set up Gen. Flynn&#8211;secret, and so very closely held?</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 18:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess a rotten apple at the top came from a barrel of rotten apples.  Nice and shiney on the outside, inside, not so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess a rotten apple at the top came from a barrel of rotten apples.  Nice and shiney on the outside, inside, not so much.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Commentators on FOX, at least, always preface any of their statements/analyses about the unethical and illegal actions of people at the DOJ, FBI, CIA, State Department, and who knows where else in our Federal government--brickbats all aimed at President Trump, his Administration, and his policies--by uttering the prescribed formulaic lines about how &quot;they are not talking about the &quot;hard-working rank and file employees&quot;&quot; at these various agencies--No, No, No--these commentators are only talking about the &quot;bad apples at the highest levels&quot; of those extremely powerful parts of our Federal government. 

What evidence do they have, and how sure are these commentators about these  rank and file employees, and their attitudes? 

As I have pointed out in several comments on various threads here, if any of these &quot;rank and file employees&quot; had any great objections to the actions of their bosses, I have yet to see any evidence of them.  

No angry letters to any editors that I am aware of, no groups of protestors circling the offending offices, (yes, faint and only very occasional and passing mention that perhaps some patriotic and disgusted federal employees have been giving various Republican members of Congress and Committees some inside information), but no real &quot;whistle blowers,&quot; have yet appeared, and there have been no actual substantial stories, leaking out, about how disgusted, patriotic members of the rank and file have &quot;come forward&quot; to offer insider evidence of the unethical and illegal things their bosses have been doing, not even any anonymous posters slapped on walls in the dead of night; in essence basically nothing. 

My conclusion?  

In what is--to judge by things like donation patterns--an overwhelmingly Leftist/Democrat Federal bureaucracy, these &quot;rank and file&quot; employees have, it appears, been quite content with what their bosses have been doing, and, in fact, have likely been silently cheering them on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commentators on FOX, at least, always preface any of their statements/analyses about the unethical and illegal actions of people at the DOJ, FBI, CIA, State Department, and who knows where else in our Federal government&#8211;brickbats all aimed at President Trump, his Administration, and his policies&#8211;by uttering the prescribed formulaic lines about how &#8220;they are not talking about the &#8220;hard-working rank and file employees&#8221;&#8221; at these various agencies&#8211;No, No, No&#8211;these commentators are only talking about the &#8220;bad apples at the highest levels&#8221; of those extremely powerful parts of our Federal government. </p>
<p>What evidence do they have, and how sure are these commentators about these  rank and file employees, and their attitudes? </p>
<p>As I have pointed out in several comments on various threads here, if any of these &#8220;rank and file employees&#8221; had any great objections to the actions of their bosses, I have yet to see any evidence of them.  </p>
<p>No angry letters to any editors that I am aware of, no groups of protestors circling the offending offices, (yes, faint and only very occasional and passing mention that perhaps some patriotic and disgusted federal employees have been giving various Republican members of Congress and Committees some inside information), but no real &#8220;whistle blowers,&#8221; have yet appeared, and there have been no actual substantial stories, leaking out, about how disgusted, patriotic members of the rank and file have &#8220;come forward&#8221; to offer insider evidence of the unethical and illegal things their bosses have been doing, not even any anonymous posters slapped on walls in the dead of night; in essence basically nothing. </p>
<p>My conclusion?  </p>
<p>In what is&#8211;to judge by things like donation patterns&#8211;an overwhelmingly Leftist/Democrat Federal bureaucracy, these &#8220;rank and file&#8221; employees have, it appears, been quite content with what their bosses have been doing, and, in fact, have likely been silently cheering them on.</p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aNanyMouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 18:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paolo, by &quot;countries like Hungary and Poland&quot;, are you meaning mainly the current leaders there, Orban and Duda?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paolo, by &#8220;countries like Hungary and Poland&#8221;, are you meaning mainly the current leaders there, Orban and Duda?</p>
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		By: 0m		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[0m]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Prepare to be shocked!  Or not,  never mind .......

https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/04/29/former-fed-prosecutor-andrew-mccarthy-blasts-fbi-over-new-revelations-about-flynn-meticulously-planned-out-scheme/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prepare to be shocked!  Or not,  never mind &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/04/29/former-fed-prosecutor-andrew-mccarthy-blasts-fbi-over-new-revelations-about-flynn-meticulously-planned-out-scheme/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/04/29/former-fed-prosecutor-andrew-mccarthy-blasts-fbi-over-new-revelations-about-flynn-meticulously-planned-out-scheme/</a></p>
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		By: Paolo Pagliaro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paolo Pagliaro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 06:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s shocking is that probably nobody will be called in tribunals.

Decades of propaganda against the alleged horrors of &quot;McCarthyism&quot; - with traitors treated as noble figures, while tens of millions were ground in Communist countries - are still bringing their fruits. 

The media holds the reins of what counts as real scandal, like Hydroxychloroquine... Nobody has really the courage to oppose the shame and hate poured relentlessly on you when you dare to fight. 

Whittaker Chambers, whose &quot;Witness&quot; is one of the most perceptive and important book ever written, had rightly understood that a decisive cultural battle had been lost in the &#039;50s - not only in the USA but in the whole western world. 

This is why East European countries like Hungary and Poland is hated and feared so much in progressive circles: their learned lesson and consequent stance is a pain in the cultural establishment&#039;s neck, hence, the constant attempt to frame them as Fascist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s shocking is that probably nobody will be called in tribunals.</p>
<p>Decades of propaganda against the alleged horrors of &#8220;McCarthyism&#8221; &#8211; with traitors treated as noble figures, while tens of millions were ground in Communist countries &#8211; are still bringing their fruits. </p>
<p>The media holds the reins of what counts as real scandal, like Hydroxychloroquine&#8230; Nobody has really the courage to oppose the shame and hate poured relentlessly on you when you dare to fight. </p>
<p>Whittaker Chambers, whose &#8220;Witness&#8221; is one of the most perceptive and important book ever written, had rightly understood that a decisive cultural battle had been lost in the &#8217;50s &#8211; not only in the USA but in the whole western world. </p>
<p>This is why East European countries like Hungary and Poland is hated and feared so much in progressive circles: their learned lesson and consequent stance is a pain in the cultural establishment&#8217;s neck, hence, the constant attempt to frame them as Fascist.</p>
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