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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/04/15/suddenly-the-chinese-lab-origin-theory-of-covid-19-becomes-more-than-a-baseless-right-wing-conspiracy-myth/#comment-2490416</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When considering what is conceivable--when evaluating what the range might be of China&#039;s possible motives and actions throughout this Pandemic, it is wise to keep in mind the fact that the Chinese Communist Party runs a system in which, according to reports, prisoners--including political prisoners--are executed, and their organs are harvested for sale.*

See, for instance https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests-organs-detainees-tribunal-concludes-n1018646]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When considering what is conceivable&#8211;when evaluating what the range might be of China&#8217;s possible motives and actions throughout this Pandemic, it is wise to keep in mind the fact that the Chinese Communist Party runs a system in which, according to reports, prisoners&#8211;including political prisoners&#8211;are executed, and their organs are harvested for sale.*</p>
<p>See, for instance <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests-organs-detainees-tribunal-concludes-n1018646" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests-organs-detainees-tribunal-concludes-n1018646</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/covid-19-man-made-virus-hiv-discoverer-says-could-only-have-been-created-lab]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/health/covid-19-man-made-virus-hiv-discoverer-says-could-only-have-been-created-lab" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/health/covid-19-man-made-virus-hiv-discoverer-says-could-only-have-been-created-lab</a></p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/04/15/suddenly-the-chinese-lab-origin-theory-of-covid-19-becomes-more-than-a-baseless-right-wing-conspiracy-myth/#comment-2490381</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 07:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesoopFan,

That&#039;s a great story about the sword!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesoopFan,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great story about the sword!</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/04/15/suddenly-the-chinese-lab-origin-theory-of-covid-19-becomes-more-than-a-baseless-right-wing-conspiracy-myth/#comment-2490368</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 04:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The oddity of coincidence thus acknowledge, it is still true that 
Once is happenstance; twice is coincidence; third time is enemy action.

China is up to around incident number 10 or 12 by now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oddity of coincidence thus acknowledge, it is still true that<br />
Once is happenstance; twice is coincidence; third time is enemy action.</p>
<p>China is up to around incident number 10 or 12 by now.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 04:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr - I knew the Twain story, and have one &quot;strange coincidence&quot; stories of my own.

When our eldest son came home from his mission in Argentina, he brought as a souvenir a short &quot;silver&quot; sword in a leather sheath (all the kids learned to fence because we did in college, and all of us are RenFeste fans).
A couple of years later, while in college, his apartment was burgled and the sword was among the stolen items.
A few years after that, one of the other brothers going to the same college was looking at some items in a pawn shop -- and found the sword.
Made a nice birthday gift for the older brother.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr &#8211; I knew the Twain story, and have one &#8220;strange coincidence&#8221; stories of my own.</p>
<p>When our eldest son came home from his mission in Argentina, he brought as a souvenir a short &#8220;silver&#8221; sword in a leather sheath (all the kids learned to fence because we did in college, and all of us are RenFeste fans).<br />
A couple of years later, while in college, his apartment was burgled and the sword was among the stolen items.<br />
A few years after that, one of the other brothers going to the same college was looking at some items in a pawn shop &#8212; and found the sword.<br />
Made a nice birthday gift for the older brother.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 04:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine:

All of that is true of flu, pneumonia, and particularly sepsis (which I wrote about &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2015/12/04/sepsis-the-killer-you-probably-know-almost-nothing-about/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; almost 5 years ago) through the mechanism of septic shock.  It&#039;s also true of H1N1, which is a form of flu. They can cause a cascade of events that damage almost every organ system in the body, and if a person survives he or she can have grave permanent damage in any number of ways.

The thing is that most people are not aware of the dangers of such things, because fortunately most cases don&#039;t get that far.  But plenty of cases do, unfortunately, and some people survive but have permanent consequences.

As far as I know, coronavirus has that potential too, which is unsurprising.  The real question is whether it happens to a higher percentage of coronavirus victims.  I have no idea whether it does.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wfpiccs.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2015_WSD_FactSheet_long_English.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See this&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Many people who survive severe sepsis recover completely and their lives return to normal. However, patients who survive to hospital discharge after sepsis remain at increased risk for death in the following months and years . Those who survive may have impaired physical or neurocognitive functioning, mood disorders, and a low quality of life. We do not know for certain how many people are affected by such problems, but it is likely to be at least 20% of survivors.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Permanent lung and/or kidney damage is a possibility.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>All of that is true of flu, pneumonia, and particularly sepsis (which I wrote about <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2015/12/04/sepsis-the-killer-you-probably-know-almost-nothing-about/">here</a> almost 5 years ago) through the mechanism of septic shock.  It&#8217;s also true of H1N1, which is a form of flu. They can cause a cascade of events that damage almost every organ system in the body, and if a person survives he or she can have grave permanent damage in any number of ways.</p>
<p>The thing is that most people are not aware of the dangers of such things, because fortunately most cases don&#8217;t get that far.  But plenty of cases do, unfortunately, and some people survive but have permanent consequences.</p>
<p>As far as I know, coronavirus has that potential too, which is unsurprising.  The real question is whether it happens to a higher percentage of coronavirus victims.  I have no idea whether it does.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wfpiccs.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2015_WSD_FactSheet_long_English.pdf" rel="nofollow">See this</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Many people who survive severe sepsis recover completely and their lives return to normal. However, patients who survive to hospital discharge after sepsis remain at increased risk for death in the following months and years . Those who survive may have impaired physical or neurocognitive functioning, mood disorders, and a low quality of life. We do not know for certain how many people are affected by such problems, but it is likely to be at least 20% of survivors.  </p></blockquote>
<p>Permanent lung and/or kidney damage is a possibility.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 04:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the information I have seen on FOX this evening, the Chinese Coronavirus is far more deadly that I had understood it to be.

The information I had previously seen—and particularly the frantic calls for ventilators--focused my attention on the damage this virus does to the lungs. 

But, in a couple of appearances on FOX TV today their medical consultant, Dr Marc Siegel, revealed that if you have a severe case, not only does it damage the lungs, but it also can damage the heart, it can damage the kidneys, damage the liver, cause strokes, and it can result in blood clots, in pulmonary embolism; it sounds as if the Chinese Coronavirus can attack/damage practically any vital organ.

Said Dr. Siegel, most people who have symptoms have mild cases, but the experience so far in New York seems to indicate that if you have a bad case, and end up in the hospital, there is a 25% chance that you will end up in the ICU and on a ventilator—and if you survive that (Gov. Cuomo said the other day that 80% of those put on a ventilator never get off)--its looking like you might end up with some form of long term, perhaps permanent disability. 

See  https://news.yahoo.com/dr-marc-siegel-concerns-over-013140330.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the information I have seen on FOX this evening, the Chinese Coronavirus is far more deadly that I had understood it to be.</p>
<p>The information I had previously seen—and particularly the frantic calls for ventilators&#8211;focused my attention on the damage this virus does to the lungs. </p>
<p>But, in a couple of appearances on FOX TV today their medical consultant, Dr Marc Siegel, revealed that if you have a severe case, not only does it damage the lungs, but it also can damage the heart, it can damage the kidneys, damage the liver, cause strokes, and it can result in blood clots, in pulmonary embolism; it sounds as if the Chinese Coronavirus can attack/damage practically any vital organ.</p>
<p>Said Dr. Siegel, most people who have symptoms have mild cases, but the experience so far in New York seems to indicate that if you have a bad case, and end up in the hospital, there is a 25% chance that you will end up in the ICU and on a ventilator—and if you survive that (Gov. Cuomo said the other day that 80% of those put on a ventilator never get off)&#8211;its looking like you might end up with some form of long term, perhaps permanent disability. </p>
<p>See  <a href="https://news.yahoo.com/dr-marc-siegel-concerns-over-013140330.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://news.yahoo.com/dr-marc-siegel-concerns-over-013140330.html</a></p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 23:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JohnTyler: Well , if the virus did NOT escape from that lab in Wuhan, it’s an amazing coincidence that the lab is located near the origin of the virus outbreak. 

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On Detroit sometime in the 1930s, a young (if incredibly careless) mother must have been eternally grateful to a man named Joseph Figlock. As Figlock was walking down the street, the mother’s baby fell from a high window onto Figlock. The baby’s fall was broken and both man and baby were unharmed. A stroke of luck on its own, but a year later, the very same baby fell from the very same window onto poor, unsuspecting Joseph Figlock as he was again passing beneath. And again, they both survived the event. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the 19th century, the famous horror writer, Egdar Allan Poe, wrote a book called ‘The narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym’. It was about four survivors of a shipwreck who were in an open boat for many days before they decided to kill and eat the cabin boy whose name was Richard Parker.Some years later, in 1884, the yawl, Mignonette, foundered, with only four survivors, who were in an open boat for many days. Eventully the three senior members of the crew, killed and ate the cabin boy. The name of the cabin boy was Richard Parker.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;Mark Twain was born on the day of the appearance of Halley’s Comet in 1835, and died on the day of its next appearance in 1910. He himself predicted this in 1909, when he said: “I came in with Halley’s Comet in 1835. It is coming again next year, and I expect to go out with it.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;While American novelist Anne Parrish was browsing bookstores in Paris in the 1920s, she came upon a book that was one of her childhood favorites – Jack Frost and Other Stories. She picked up the old book and showed it to her husband, telling him of the book she fondly remembered as a child. Her husband took the book, opened it, and on the flyleaf found the inscription: “Anne Parrish, 209 N. Weber Street, Colorado Springs.” It was Anne’s very own book.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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When King Louis XVI of France was a child, he was warned by an astrologer to always be on his guard on the 21st day of each month. Louis ws so terrified by this that he never did business on this day.Unfortunately Louis was not always on his guard. On June 21st 1791, following the French revolution, Louis and his queen were arrested in Varennes, whist trying to escape France. On September 21st 1791, France abolished the institution of Royalty and proclaimed itself a republic. Finally on January 21st 1793, King Louis XVI was executed by guillotine. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnTyler: Well , if the virus did NOT escape from that lab in Wuhan, it’s an amazing coincidence that the lab is located near the origin of the virus outbreak. </p>
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On Detroit sometime in the 1930s, a young (if incredibly careless) mother must have been eternally grateful to a man named Joseph Figlock. As Figlock was walking down the street, the mother’s baby fell from a high window onto Figlock. The baby’s fall was broken and both man and baby were unharmed. A stroke of luck on its own, but a year later, the very same baby fell from the very same window onto poor, unsuspecting Joseph Figlock as he was again passing beneath. And again, they both survived the event. </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>In the 19th century, the famous horror writer, Egdar Allan Poe, wrote a book called ‘The narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym’. It was about four survivors of a shipwreck who were in an open boat for many days before they decided to kill and eat the cabin boy whose name was Richard Parker.Some years later, in 1884, the yawl, Mignonette, foundered, with only four survivors, who were in an open boat for many days. Eventully the three senior members of the crew, killed and ate the cabin boy. The name of the cabin boy was Richard Parker.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Mark Twain was born on the day of the appearance of Halley’s Comet in 1835, and died on the day of its next appearance in 1910. He himself predicted this in 1909, when he said: “I came in with Halley’s Comet in 1835. It is coming again next year, and I expect to go out with it.” </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>While American novelist Anne Parrish was browsing bookstores in Paris in the 1920s, she came upon a book that was one of her childhood favorites – Jack Frost and Other Stories. She picked up the old book and showed it to her husband, telling him of the book she fondly remembered as a child. Her husband took the book, opened it, and on the flyleaf found the inscription: “Anne Parrish, 209 N. Weber Street, Colorado Springs.” It was Anne’s very own book.</p></blockquote>
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When King Louis XVI of France was a child, he was warned by an astrologer to always be on his guard on the 21st day of each month. Louis ws so terrified by this that he never did business on this day.Unfortunately Louis was not always on his guard. On June 21st 1791, following the French revolution, Louis and his queen were arrested in Varennes, whist trying to escape France. On September 21st 1791, France abolished the institution of Royalty and proclaimed itself a republic. Finally on January 21st 1793, King Louis XVI was executed by guillotine. </p></blockquote>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 23:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom G: I think it’s worse – they have some 230 million marriage age men with only 200 million women of that age, so they have 30 million prime age men without women.

thats what i was referring to... you said it better than i did... (embarrassed)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom G: I think it’s worse – they have some 230 million marriage age men with only 200 million women of that age, so they have 30 million prime age men without women.</p>
<p>thats what i was referring to&#8230; you said it better than i did&#8230; (embarrassed)</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 17:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is becoming more obvious that this virus:
1) escaped from a lab due to sloppy and careless procedures
2) was &quot;enhanced&quot; to make it more infectious to humans
3) and thus is a bioweapon

and we also know that China:
1) locked down Wuhan, and all DOMESTIC travel in/out of that region
2) did not stop INTERNATIONAL travel to/from that region
3) suppressed all information, including the destruction of samples and muzzling of MDs

My conclusion is that the CCP has effectively carried out a biological attack on the rest of the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is becoming more obvious that this virus:<br />
1) escaped from a lab due to sloppy and careless procedures<br />
2) was &#8220;enhanced&#8221; to make it more infectious to humans<br />
3) and thus is a bioweapon</p>
<p>and we also know that China:<br />
1) locked down Wuhan, and all DOMESTIC travel in/out of that region<br />
2) did not stop INTERNATIONAL travel to/from that region<br />
3) suppressed all information, including the destruction of samples and muzzling of MDs</p>
<p>My conclusion is that the CCP has effectively carried out a biological attack on the rest of the world.</p>
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