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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 16:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr on April 14, 2020 at 12:09 am said:
I think he did this to get them to step in it…

Trump claims ‘total’ authority, over govs, to reopen economy
https://apnews.com/ba9578acf23bdb03fd51a2b81f640560
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Artfl is correct, I think Trump does this a lot - floats an idea, gets the politicians and press to react, then they do what he wanted them to in the first place but now it&#039;s THEIR idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr on April 14, 2020 at 12:09 am said:<br />
I think he did this to get them to step in it…</p>
<p>Trump claims ‘total’ authority, over govs, to reopen economy<br />
<a href="https://apnews.com/ba9578acf23bdb03fd51a2b81f640560" rel="nofollow ugc">https://apnews.com/ba9578acf23bdb03fd51a2b81f640560</a><br />
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Artfl is correct, I think Trump does this a lot &#8211; floats an idea, gets the politicians and press to react, then they do what he wanted them to in the first place but now it&#8217;s THEIR idea.</p>
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		By: JHCorcoran		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/04/13/whats-up-with-gretchen-whitmer-the-governor-of-michigan/#comment-2490098</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 03:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gov. Kristi Noem of South Dakota on her response to Covid-19 is the polar opposite of Gov. Whitmer.  Smart with a lot of common sense, this is leadership.

https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2020/04/14/kristi-noem-statewide-trial-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-south-dakota/

BTW; She is attractive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gov. Kristi Noem of South Dakota on her response to Covid-19 is the polar opposite of Gov. Whitmer.  Smart with a lot of common sense, this is leadership.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2020/04/14/kristi-noem-statewide-trial-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-south-dakota/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2020/04/14/kristi-noem-statewide-trial-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-south-dakota/</a></p>
<p>BTW; She is attractive.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 18:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Apparently the inner Uber-sexist is as easily triggered in some as the inner fascist is in others. (And I am no fan of hers, see post far above.)&lt;/i&gt;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKF8YxWWhI4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Apparently the inner Uber-sexist is as easily triggered in some as the inner fascist is in others. (And I am no fan of hers, see post far above.)</i></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKF8YxWWhI4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKF8YxWWhI4</a></p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/04/13/whats-up-with-gretchen-whitmer-the-governor-of-michigan/#comment-2489974</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 18:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have not had time to read all the comments.  I may be repeating a previous comment.  My opinion of Whitmer is that she reminds me of the typical Home Owner&#039;s Association scold that gets on the board or becomes president and  then imposes her :&quot;superior&quot; ideas about how people should conduct their lives.  In fact, she reminds me of a couple of HOA scolds I&#039;ve encountered down through the years.  These types are everywhere among us.  We don&#039;t know it until they get a bit of authority. Then it becomes clear that there are quite a few would-be dictators lurking out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have not had time to read all the comments.  I may be repeating a previous comment.  My opinion of Whitmer is that she reminds me of the typical Home Owner&#8217;s Association scold that gets on the board or becomes president and  then imposes her :&#8221;superior&#8221; ideas about how people should conduct their lives.  In fact, she reminds me of a couple of HOA scolds I&#8217;ve encountered down through the years.  These types are everywhere among us.  We don&#8217;t know it until they get a bit of authority. Then it becomes clear that there are quite a few would-be dictators lurking out there.</p>
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		By: Fractal Rabbit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/04/13/whats-up-with-gretchen-whitmer-the-governor-of-michigan/#comment-2489972</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 17:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mittenstate said,

&quot;I’m astonished by the repulsive comments about the Governor’s appearance. Apparently the inner Uber-sexist is as easily triggered in some as the inner fascist is in others. (And I am no fan of hers, see post far above.)&quot;


Yeah. Well, I can&#039;t speak for everyone here by my own person Give A F#$k-o-meter needle hasn&#039;t moved since I was called sexist and fascist (and racist, but you didn&#039;t make that accusation) for who I voted for. If I&#039;m going to be blamed and screamed at anyway, after all.

When they can abide the rules of civility, I&#039;ll consider reciprocating. But for now, for the foreseeable future, I&#039;m done with civility. The only way to bring civility back is to make them beg for it back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mittenstate said,</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m astonished by the repulsive comments about the Governor’s appearance. Apparently the inner Uber-sexist is as easily triggered in some as the inner fascist is in others. (And I am no fan of hers, see post far above.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah. Well, I can&#8217;t speak for everyone here by my own person Give A F#$k-o-meter needle hasn&#8217;t moved since I was called sexist and fascist (and racist, but you didn&#8217;t make that accusation) for who I voted for. If I&#8217;m going to be blamed and screamed at anyway, after all.</p>
<p>When they can abide the rules of civility, I&#8217;ll consider reciprocating. But for now, for the foreseeable future, I&#8217;m done with civility. The only way to bring civility back is to make them beg for it back.</p>
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		By: Ed Bonderenka		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 17:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW: &quot;Hope this helps.&quot;
Magnificent!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW: &#8220;Hope this helps.&#8221;<br />
Magnificent!</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 17:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I understand why some are upset with the Demon Seed Look comments some of us, me in particular, have made with reference to Whitmer. 

Apart from the already mentioned fact that the door was opened for such replies, there is the fact that those objecting to this mockery are standing on principles of universal respect, civil boundaries, and common humanity rejected by the appetite entities of the left themselves; except as rhetorical flourishes to be trotted out when convenient. 

Otherwise it&#039;s  those lousy gap toothed Neanderthals, Jeebus worshippers, and deplorables clutching at their guns, Bibles, and an immoral and privileged past where they were not forced to share the unending pain of existence that every right thinking proressive feels, and knows is the cost imposed on life by an unfeeling and uncaring nature. 

So, ok. If you want to pretend that the self announced soulless have souls, and play a survival game with two sets of rules, convinced that it will make the world a better place, then you are welcome to do so. Your religious convictions may require you to do so.

But for those of us who believe that reciprocity is the first principle of a rational natural morality, and who take those who proclaim that &quot; the personal is the political&quot; at face value and as meaning what they say, you are barking up the wrong tree.

I don&#039;t  like quoting movies, but in this case I think it is more apt than citing the Lon Fuller/Herbert Hart debates on Natural Law and morality as it relates to positive law. 

There is a scene in the movie &quot;Hombre&quot;, where Dianne Cilento, having already endangered the fleeing stage coach passengers by revealing their hideout to pursuing robbers in an act of misguided compassion, lectures Hombre (Paul Newman) who is the only man among them competent with a gun and able to defend himself and others, on his moral duty. She informs him that people better deal with each other on the basis of need, not merit.

Eventually she is shamed into potentially laying her own life on the line to get done what she wants done. At which point, he resignedly picks up the burden of rescuing the bigoted, smug wife of the corrupt Indian agent, and dies in the process of saving them all:  as the worthless, self centered, and cowardly passengers, cannot even cover him competently.

I don&#039;t wish any harm to Whither. But she is not some blundering naif who is being kicked at because her impoverished mother and father could not afford a fashionable party dress. 

As far as I am concerned, petty tyrant progressives, bureaucrat, or executive, can live and die by their own &quot;the personal is the political&quot; rules. 

If that destroys the concept of a common-humanity based civility, at least insofar as it applies to them, then so be it. They deserve no more based on their own premisses and life philosophy. 

Hope this helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand why some are upset with the Demon Seed Look comments some of us, me in particular, have made with reference to Whitmer. </p>
<p>Apart from the already mentioned fact that the door was opened for such replies, there is the fact that those objecting to this mockery are standing on principles of universal respect, civil boundaries, and common humanity rejected by the appetite entities of the left themselves; except as rhetorical flourishes to be trotted out when convenient. </p>
<p>Otherwise it&#8217;s  those lousy gap toothed Neanderthals, Jeebus worshippers, and deplorables clutching at their guns, Bibles, and an immoral and privileged past where they were not forced to share the unending pain of existence that every right thinking proressive feels, and knows is the cost imposed on life by an unfeeling and uncaring nature. </p>
<p>So, ok. If you want to pretend that the self announced soulless have souls, and play a survival game with two sets of rules, convinced that it will make the world a better place, then you are welcome to do so. Your religious convictions may require you to do so.</p>
<p>But for those of us who believe that reciprocity is the first principle of a rational natural morality, and who take those who proclaim that &#8221; the personal is the political&#8221; at face value and as meaning what they say, you are barking up the wrong tree.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t  like quoting movies, but in this case I think it is more apt than citing the Lon Fuller/Herbert Hart debates on Natural Law and morality as it relates to positive law. </p>
<p>There is a scene in the movie &#8220;Hombre&#8221;, where Dianne Cilento, having already endangered the fleeing stage coach passengers by revealing their hideout to pursuing robbers in an act of misguided compassion, lectures Hombre (Paul Newman) who is the only man among them competent with a gun and able to defend himself and others, on his moral duty. She informs him that people better deal with each other on the basis of need, not merit.</p>
<p>Eventually she is shamed into potentially laying her own life on the line to get done what she wants done. At which point, he resignedly picks up the burden of rescuing the bigoted, smug wife of the corrupt Indian agent, and dies in the process of saving them all:  as the worthless, self centered, and cowardly passengers, cannot even cover him competently.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t wish any harm to Whither. But she is not some blundering naif who is being kicked at because her impoverished mother and father could not afford a fashionable party dress. </p>
<p>As far as I am concerned, petty tyrant progressives, bureaucrat, or executive, can live and die by their own &#8220;the personal is the political&#8221; rules. </p>
<p>If that destroys the concept of a common-humanity based civility, at least insofar as it applies to them, then so be it. They deserve no more based on their own premisses and life philosophy. </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m astonished that uber-sexist has about as much heft (no body shaming here) as being called a racist.  I&#039;m so triggered and hurt, or maybe not.  What we need is a fascist/communist (progressive) with a pretty face, oops, we already have AOC.  And AOC is such a intellectual powerhouse too.  Feel better now?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m astonished that uber-sexist has about as much heft (no body shaming here) as being called a racist.  I&#8217;m so triggered and hurt, or maybe not.  What we need is a fascist/communist (progressive) with a pretty face, oops, we already have AOC.  And AOC is such a intellectual powerhouse too.  Feel better now?</p>
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		By: Griffin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 17:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course nobody made fun of Trump’s hair, skin color, weight, way of speaking, etc. 

I mean it’s not like anybody had big naked balloons of Trump or anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course nobody made fun of Trump’s hair, skin color, weight, way of speaking, etc. </p>
<p>I mean it’s not like anybody had big naked balloons of Trump or anything.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 17:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’m astonished by the repulsive comments about the Governor’s appearance. &lt;/i&gt;

She&#039;s unattractive.  We&#039;re obligated in your mind to pretend otherwise?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m astonished by the repulsive comments about the Governor’s appearance. </i></p>
<p>She&#8217;s unattractive.  We&#8217;re obligated in your mind to pretend otherwise?</p>
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