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		By: Cicero		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco: 
From  your source: &quot;Births to Arab women made up 23.5% of all live births in Israel in 2018, compared to 23.8% in 2017, 24.5% in 2010, and 29.9% in 2000.&quot;
So I agree with your idea of the trend. And stand corrected.
Israeli Muslims are the largest minority in Israel.
We shall have to see how the  recent surge in Israeli Jews&#039; birth rate plays out over time. I suspect it will fall gradually below that of the Arabs&#039; and come to mimic Europe&#039;s appallingly low numbers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:<br />
From  your source: &#8220;Births to Arab women made up 23.5% of all live births in Israel in 2018, compared to 23.8% in 2017, 24.5% in 2010, and 29.9% in 2000.&#8221;<br />
So I agree with your idea of the trend. And stand corrected.<br />
Israeli Muslims are the largest minority in Israel.<br />
We shall have to see how the  recent surge in Israeli Jews&#8217; birth rate plays out over time. I suspect it will fall gradually below that of the Arabs&#8217; and come to mimic Europe&#8217;s appallingly low numbers.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2020 18:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for giving your valuable perspective Ben David. May I ask, who do you think will either successfully present himself or be called forward to lead the political conservatives and people of consequential moderation when Netanyahu decides to step aside?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for giving your valuable perspective Ben David. May I ask, who do you think will either successfully present himself or be called forward to lead the political conservatives and people of consequential moderation when Netanyahu decides to step aside?</p>
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		By: Ben David		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some random notes on this from up close here in Israel:

1. Yes, as some posters noted, Israel has the same problem with left-leaning media, academia, and judiciary as the States. Bibi&#039;s victory comes after attempts to use lawfare against him - after 30 years of going through his garbage cans, all they have is a gift of some cigars and a phone call in which he shmoozes with a newspaper editor to get better coverage. The Left attempted to spin this into a corruption scandal - and the public would have nothing of it.

2. The drafting of Ganz is a re-run of Rabin in some ways - the Left-labor axis has shrunk pitifully, and they recruited a general to disguise themselves. The Israeli public saw through this - and while quarantined at home, they saw Ganz&#039;s hard-left partners engage in petty politics when leadership was required. The Labor movement that founded this country is now perceived as weak, unpatriotic, and unworthy of leadership.

3. Ganz himself? Skilled enough to navigate the army ranks, but a novice in this new kind of politics. He looks good - until he opens his mouth, and is ungraceful when forced off-script. He figured out what he had to do to save his one chance at politics. Now we&#039;ll see if the public warms or cools after continued exposure.

4. As in the States, those of us on the conservative side are astounded that an empty balloon like Blue and White got so many votes. Their vacuous slogan was &quot;it&#039;s time to move on&quot; - as if the nation were picking a brand of hair conditioner.

BlueWhite&#039;s subsequent willingness to sit with the Arab parties was a slap in the face to the MOR non-religious Israelis who gave them their votes. Each time the Left tips its hand, more and more of these people are disenchanted (literally - they awake from their media-induced spell!) and move Right.

5. One mystery in all this was the political conversion of Ya&#039;alon - the third leg of BlueWhite - who until recently was a straight-shooting hawk who supported the settler movement. Personal animosity towards Bibi - which motivated Liberman - cannot entirely explain his behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some random notes on this from up close here in Israel:</p>
<p>1. Yes, as some posters noted, Israel has the same problem with left-leaning media, academia, and judiciary as the States. Bibi&#8217;s victory comes after attempts to use lawfare against him &#8211; after 30 years of going through his garbage cans, all they have is a gift of some cigars and a phone call in which he shmoozes with a newspaper editor to get better coverage. The Left attempted to spin this into a corruption scandal &#8211; and the public would have nothing of it.</p>
<p>2. The drafting of Ganz is a re-run of Rabin in some ways &#8211; the Left-labor axis has shrunk pitifully, and they recruited a general to disguise themselves. The Israeli public saw through this &#8211; and while quarantined at home, they saw Ganz&#8217;s hard-left partners engage in petty politics when leadership was required. The Labor movement that founded this country is now perceived as weak, unpatriotic, and unworthy of leadership.</p>
<p>3. Ganz himself? Skilled enough to navigate the army ranks, but a novice in this new kind of politics. He looks good &#8211; until he opens his mouth, and is ungraceful when forced off-script. He figured out what he had to do to save his one chance at politics. Now we&#8217;ll see if the public warms or cools after continued exposure.</p>
<p>4. As in the States, those of us on the conservative side are astounded that an empty balloon like Blue and White got so many votes. Their vacuous slogan was &#8220;it&#8217;s time to move on&#8221; &#8211; as if the nation were picking a brand of hair conditioner.</p>
<p>BlueWhite&#8217;s subsequent willingness to sit with the Arab parties was a slap in the face to the MOR non-religious Israelis who gave them their votes. Each time the Left tips its hand, more and more of these people are disenchanted (literally &#8211; they awake from their media-induced spell!) and move Right.</p>
<p>5. One mystery in all this was the political conversion of Ya&#8217;alon &#8211; the third leg of BlueWhite &#8211; who until recently was a straight-shooting hawk who supported the settler movement. Personal animosity towards Bibi &#8211; which motivated Liberman &#8211; cannot entirely explain his behavior.</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 20:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Our Congress doesn’t need a majority party or coalition to function, our President will be elected in some manner. And fringe 3rd parties will not have outsized influence.&lt;/i&gt;

And yet Israelis have somehow managed to keep Bibi in office all these years. It&#039;s almost as if there&#039;s a higher power looking after them.

As to the fringe parties, the always brilliant Carolyn Glick has argued that the higher threshold for parties to have representation in the Knesset backfired, in that different political factions were forced to unite under &quot;ethnicity&quot; rather than ideology, and that gave rise to the recent stalemate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Our Congress doesn’t need a majority party or coalition to function, our President will be elected in some manner. And fringe 3rd parties will not have outsized influence.</i></p>
<p>And yet Israelis have somehow managed to keep Bibi in office all these years. It&#8217;s almost as if there&#8217;s a higher power looking after them.</p>
<p>As to the fringe parties, the always brilliant Carolyn Glick has argued that the higher threshold for parties to have representation in the Knesset backfired, in that different political factions were forced to unite under &#8220;ethnicity&#8221; rather than ideology, and that gave rise to the recent stalemate.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 17:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As to Israel, it is doomed in the long term because its anti-semitic Arab Muslim citizens, 25% of the population, are out-reproducing Israeli Jews. &lt;/i&gt;

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/269748

They aren&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As to Israel, it is doomed in the long term because its anti-semitic Arab Muslim citizens, 25% of the population, are out-reproducing Israeli Jews. </i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/269748" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/269748</a></p>
<p>They aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 17:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sdferr: Agree.
Our erosion began with the birth of the Progressives circa 1900. Woodrow did his best to destroy the Constitution. But preceding him was ratification of the 16th Amendment, allowing a federal income tax in order to tax &quot;only&quot; the very few super-rich, as was claimed at the time. So was born the Federal Monster.

As to Israel, it is doomed in the long term because its anti-semitic Arab Muslim citizens, 25% of the population, are out-reproducing Israeli Jews. They are 80% Sunni. The internal Muslim anti-Jew hostility is striking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sdferr: Agree.<br />
Our erosion began with the birth of the Progressives circa 1900. Woodrow did his best to destroy the Constitution. But preceding him was ratification of the 16th Amendment, allowing a federal income tax in order to tax &#8220;only&#8221; the very few super-rich, as was claimed at the time. So was born the Federal Monster.</p>
<p>As to Israel, it is doomed in the long term because its anti-semitic Arab Muslim citizens, 25% of the population, are out-reproducing Israeli Jews. They are 80% Sunni. The internal Muslim anti-Jew hostility is striking.</p>
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		By: avi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 16:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Lastly, most American jewish voters vote demokrat.
Please explain that to me.&quot;

the percent that does perfectly matches the percent that marries out.
or to quote the meme
what&#039;s the difference between Trump and Jewish liberals?
Jewish Grandchildren]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lastly, most American jewish voters vote demokrat.<br />
Please explain that to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>the percent that does perfectly matches the percent that marries out.<br />
or to quote the meme<br />
what&#8217;s the difference between Trump and Jewish liberals?<br />
Jewish Grandchildren</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Bibi will not always be King.&lt;/i&gt;

Heh. That&#039;s what Jimmy Madison said. Which is why the Israelis need to get their architecture right, as currently it stinks. 

To be serious for a moment, this particular job is nothing short of monumental, one which, actually, is far beyond the capacity of Bibi Netanyahu&#039;s skills and talents. Reflective too of our tremendous, stupendous good fortune in the birth of the US, having so many concerted, superb political thinkers and doers in one place at one time. A frigging miracle, truly. What a shame we&#039;ve pissed it away on the ideas of the likes of W. Wilson, FDR, et alia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bibi will not always be King.</i></p>
<p>Heh. That&#8217;s what Jimmy Madison said. Which is why the Israelis need to get their architecture right, as currently it stinks. </p>
<p>To be serious for a moment, this particular job is nothing short of monumental, one which, actually, is far beyond the capacity of Bibi Netanyahu&#8217;s skills and talents. Reflective too of our tremendous, stupendous good fortune in the birth of the US, having so many concerted, superb political thinkers and doers in one place at one time. A frigging miracle, truly. What a shame we&#8217;ve pissed it away on the ideas of the likes of W. Wilson, FDR, et alia.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 04:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sdferr on March 27, 2020 at 8:11 pm said:
Liel Leibovitz, Tablet: Bibi, King of Israel, The most talented politician in Israeli history cracks his demented foes like walnuts
* * *
Excellent - thanks for the link.
However, the fact that the loony leftists are still in some seats of power, and are undoubtedly making inroads with the younger generation, just like ours, means that someday, sooner or later, they may acquire enough positions to dominate the decision making, much to Israel&#039;s detriment.

Bibi will not always be King.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sdferr on March 27, 2020 at 8:11 pm said:<br />
Liel Leibovitz, Tablet: Bibi, King of Israel, The most talented politician in Israeli history cracks his demented foes like walnuts<br />
* * *<br />
Excellent &#8211; thanks for the link.<br />
However, the fact that the loony leftists are still in some seats of power, and are undoubtedly making inroads with the younger generation, just like ours, means that someday, sooner or later, they may acquire enough positions to dominate the decision making, much to Israel&#8217;s detriment.</p>
<p>Bibi will not always be King.</p>
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		By: Bill M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 01:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Every time one of the Parliamentary democracies has problems forming a government, I give thanks to our founders. Our Congress doesn&#039;t need a majority party or coalition to function, our President will be elected in some manner. And fringe 3rd parties will not have outsized influence.
There was a fiction piece in &quot;Look&quot; in 1968, . In a 3 way race, it was Nixon/Lindsay vs Johnson(or maybe Humphrey)/Bobby K vs Wallace. No electoral majority and the House deadlocks on President 25/25. Bobby Kennedy, however, is elected VP and becomes acting President.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time one of the Parliamentary democracies has problems forming a government, I give thanks to our founders. Our Congress doesn&#8217;t need a majority party or coalition to function, our President will be elected in some manner. And fringe 3rd parties will not have outsized influence.<br />
There was a fiction piece in &#8220;Look&#8221; in 1968, . In a 3 way race, it was Nixon/Lindsay vs Johnson(or maybe Humphrey)/Bobby K vs Wallace. No electoral majority and the House deadlocks on President 25/25. Bobby Kennedy, however, is elected VP and becomes acting President.</p>
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