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	Comments on: FDA to push ahead with malaria drug for  COVID-19	</title>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485479</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doesn’t anybody do any research these days?

the white house released all the paperwork for the AI people to go through to find such things... you can locate it on Kaggle..  

https://www.kaggle.com/allen-institute-for-ai/CORD-19-research-challenge

In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the White House and a coalition of leading research groups have prepared the COVID-19 Open Research Dataset (CORD-19). CORD-19 is a resource of over 44,000 scholarly articles, including over 29,000 with full text, about COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, and related coronaviruses. This freely available dataset is provided to the global research community to apply recent advances in natural language processing and other AI techniques to generate new insights in support of the ongoing fight against this infectious disease. There is a growing urgency for these approaches because of the rapid acceleration in new coronavirus literature, making it difficult for the medical research community to keep up.

AI can go through it... 
but no one is paying me and there is no reward being one in a hundred..
its not worth the effort given how many have more time and have their bills paid while i am out of work and cant find anything (made worse by this corona crap)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn’t anybody do any research these days?</p>
<p>the white house released all the paperwork for the AI people to go through to find such things&#8230; you can locate it on Kaggle..  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.kaggle.com/allen-institute-for-ai/CORD-19-research-challenge" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.kaggle.com/allen-institute-for-ai/CORD-19-research-challenge</a></p>
<p>In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the White House and a coalition of leading research groups have prepared the COVID-19 Open Research Dataset (CORD-19). CORD-19 is a resource of over 44,000 scholarly articles, including over 29,000 with full text, about COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, and related coronaviruses. This freely available dataset is provided to the global research community to apply recent advances in natural language processing and other AI techniques to generate new insights in support of the ongoing fight against this infectious disease. There is a growing urgency for these approaches because of the rapid acceleration in new coronavirus literature, making it difficult for the medical research community to keep up.</p>
<p>AI can go through it&#8230;<br />
but no one is paying me and there is no reward being one in a hundred..<br />
its not worth the effort given how many have more time and have their bills paid while i am out of work and cant find anything (made worse by this corona crap)</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485468</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, here is an interesting story out today, about how the NIH itself had done a study-- waaay back back in 2005--which investigated chloroquine, and the lab results demonstrated that chloroquine might have curative and/or prophylactic effects against corona viruses!!!   

Doesn&#039;t anybody do any research these days?


See  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/stunning-development-2005-us-nih-study-found-chloroquine-was-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-infection-so-why-is-dr-fauci-questioning-its-use-now/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here is an interesting story out today, about how the NIH itself had done a study&#8211; waaay back back in 2005&#8211;which investigated chloroquine, and the lab results demonstrated that chloroquine might have curative and/or prophylactic effects against corona viruses!!!   </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anybody do any research these days?</p>
<p>See  <a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/stunning-development-2005-us-nih-study-found-chloroquine-was-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-infection-so-why-is-dr-fauci-questioning-its-use-now/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/stunning-development-2005-us-nih-study-found-chloroquine-was-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-infection-so-why-is-dr-fauci-questioning-its-use-now/</a></p>
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		By: Wendy K Laubach		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485466</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy K Laubach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pneumonia is a symptom, not a specific pathogen. It can be caused by a virus, or a bacteria, or both, in the case of opportunistic bacterial infections following on the weakening of lungs by a virus.

If it&#039;s viral pneumonia, which seems to be the case with the sudden crisis from COVID19, antibiotics aren&#039;t effective.  We need antivirals to protect the lungs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pneumonia is a symptom, not a specific pathogen. It can be caused by a virus, or a bacteria, or both, in the case of opportunistic bacterial infections following on the weakening of lungs by a virus.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s viral pneumonia, which seems to be the case with the sudden crisis from COVID19, antibiotics aren&#8217;t effective.  We need antivirals to protect the lungs.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 21:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Saunders:

It&#039;s my impression that although it&#039;s sometimes pneumonia, it&#039;s usually actually ARDS from COVID itself. See &lt;a href=&quot;https://health.clevelandclinic.org/heres-the-damage-coronavirus-covid-19-can-do-to-your-lungs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Saunders:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my impression that although it&#8217;s sometimes pneumonia, it&#8217;s usually actually ARDS from COVID itself. See <a href="https://health.clevelandclinic.org/heres-the-damage-coronavirus-covid-19-can-do-to-your-lungs/" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 21:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t have to be a math genius to see these numbers just ain&#039;t right.  I used to do a lot of projections at work, and I know that if you multiply an assumption times an estimate times a likelihood, you get garbage.  You&#039;ve got to look at your projection and ask, is this reasonable?  Does it make sense?  Gavin, your numbers do not make sense.

Also, could someone explain why ordinary antibiotics don&#039;t prevent death?  Virtually every doctor I&#039;ve seen on TV says that death of Chinese Virus patients is caused by pneumonia they get in their lungs which have been weakened by the virus.  Wouldn&#039;t the normal anti-pneumonia treatment prevent that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a math genius to see these numbers just ain&#8217;t right.  I used to do a lot of projections at work, and I know that if you multiply an assumption times an estimate times a likelihood, you get garbage.  You&#8217;ve got to look at your projection and ask, is this reasonable?  Does it make sense?  Gavin, your numbers do not make sense.</p>
<p>Also, could someone explain why ordinary antibiotics don&#8217;t prevent death?  Virtually every doctor I&#8217;ve seen on TV says that death of Chinese Virus patients is caused by pneumonia they get in their lungs which have been weakened by the virus.  Wouldn&#8217;t the normal anti-pneumonia treatment prevent that?</p>
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		By: Cap'n Rusty		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485357</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cap'n Rusty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 21:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-treatments-idUSKBN2161QQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reuters&lt;/a&gt; and others are reporting that the U of Minnesota is testing to see if losartan, a generic blood-pressure medicine, might be effective against the Chinese virus. My doctor said losartan is prescribed only for mild hypertension (which mine was until this week!), so I&#039;ve been taking if for a long time. 

I think I&#039;ll go out and shake hands with people and hug them now!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-treatments-idUSKBN2161QQ" rel="nofollow">Reuters</a> and others are reporting that the U of Minnesota is testing to see if losartan, a generic blood-pressure medicine, might be effective against the Chinese virus. My doctor said losartan is prescribed only for mild hypertension (which mine was until this week!), so I&#8217;ve been taking if for a long time. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll go out and shake hands with people and hug them now!</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485352</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 21:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thanks Brian.. most complain... 
you instead helped me learn more
thanks!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Brian.. most complain&#8230;<br />
you instead helped me learn more<br />
thanks!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		By: Brian Morgan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485347</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Neo, yes I agree but I took the approach of using South Korea as a model: democratically-elected government having early-onset of cases with new cases now virtually zero given the size of its population. The shape of its &quot;Daily new cases&quot; curve is now the shape of a bell curve. America and many others are still in early phases with cases ramping up. My estimates are based on America following the South Korea model.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neo, yes I agree but I took the approach of using South Korea as a model: democratically-elected government having early-onset of cases with new cases now virtually zero given the size of its population. The shape of its &#8220;Daily new cases&#8221; curve is now the shape of a bell curve. America and many others are still in early phases with cases ramping up. My estimates are based on America following the South Korea model.</p>
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		By: Brian Morgan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485344</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr: regarding this quote you published:

“Many Italians in Northern Italy have sold their leather goods and textiles companies to China,” writes David Vance. “Italy then allowed 100,000 Chinese workers from Wuhan and Wenzhou to move to Italy to work in these factories, with direct flights between Wuhan and Northern Italy. This continued post outbreak, so is it mere coincidence that Northern Italy is now Europe’s hotspot for Corona Virus?”

I wrote to a friend who would be knowledgeable. He agrees with it and adds &quot;the Italian government signed up to the Chinese ‘one road - one belt’ program.&quot;

You can read more about that program here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative

A pull quote:
&quot;In March 2019, Italy became the first G7 Nation to join China&#039;s Belt and Road Initiative&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr: regarding this quote you published:</p>
<p>“Many Italians in Northern Italy have sold their leather goods and textiles companies to China,” writes David Vance. “Italy then allowed 100,000 Chinese workers from Wuhan and Wenzhou to move to Italy to work in these factories, with direct flights between Wuhan and Northern Italy. This continued post outbreak, so is it mere coincidence that Northern Italy is now Europe’s hotspot for Corona Virus?”</p>
<p>I wrote to a friend who would be knowledgeable. He agrees with it and adds &#8220;the Italian government signed up to the Chinese ‘one road &#8211; one belt’ program.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can read more about that program here:<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative</a></p>
<p>A pull quote:<br />
&#8220;In March 2019, Italy became the first G7 Nation to join China&#8217;s Belt and Road Initiative&#8221;</p>
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		By: GRA		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/19/fda-to-push-ahead-with-malaria-drug-for-covid-19/#comment-2485334</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GRA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Governor Pritzker has recently made the residents of Illinois follow &quot;shelter in place&quot; starting this Saturday. So no proactive reaction is an overreaction, eh? Dear Leader will protect us all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governor Pritzker has recently made the residents of Illinois follow &#8220;shelter in place&#8221; starting this Saturday. So no proactive reaction is an overreaction, eh? Dear Leader will protect us all.</p>
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