Regardless of what one thinks of NYT, video is video – Trump said the things on that video – you cannot deny that. And, with this particular video it is extremely hard to argue that each quote is “out of context”, or some other excuse.

But, you can avert your eyes and ears because you disregard the source – the left aren’t the only ones with their bubble.
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Don’t see any cognitive dissonance – you are the one who implies Sanders is a better alternative to Biden, should Trump lose.

But, if you’ve learned since 2016 that “burn it all down” is a good thing, then, I guess I see your point, but will *Emphatically* disagree that path holds any goodness for us.

It IS looking like it will be a much different world on the other side – let’s see where the public mood takes us then.
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By not ever holding Trump accountable for much of anything, it comes across as hypocritical as the left has ever been – the right’s argument loses loads of credibility, while Trump loses any remaining good will.

Then this happens.

Just know that there are plenty who are not in the left or right bubbles, on which this next election swings.

Don’t know what you think will happen, but, yea, dismiss this all.

Best o luck to ya and the rest of the crowd here. We all are gonna need it!
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BTW – Mislabel me if it makes you feel better, but I’m not a leftist or Dem supporter in the least.

But I do now see how hair trigger thin the wall towards sudden disaster society can fall into.

Poor, (doggedly) unaccountable leadership and a crisis – people will be ready for radical change.
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Is Griffin “losing his mind” as someone said, at stating what this crisis can mean – I think not at all!

I don’t often come back here, rarely comment, but Griffin’s point was just so spot on (with what seems a large number of people – not completely in the tank for one side or the other – are thinking) and the response from the host was just so unlike the reasonable debates of pre-2016. Sad!

But it fits with the overall tone and approach this site has taken since that election.

More bubble than informative, enlightening, and original.

Instead, a drumbeat of how awful the left and the Dems are (I think we get that by now with the never ending examples), never looking beyond and wondering if the right is not also guilty of some of the same – rarely a word said.

No longer about ideas – team sport pile on all the way.

Sad!

Vote for cognitive decline, it suits you, it seems.

You haven’t learned anything since 2016. I have.

Yep, fundamental transformation is needed, eh?

Only a tool cites the NY Times.

I had forgotten that, but I remember being deeply incredulous at the time.
I literally thank God every morning that Hillary Clinton is not president.

I am dead serious.

If this does Trump in, are you saying Sanders is better?

As Griffin points out, events like this create a restless movement for drastic change – change that was previously unthinkable.

Start the Dem primaries today, instead of when it did – would Biden be able to carry through? Much more dicey.

We are f’n lucky it is Biden, before all the debris hit the fan.

And it is not looking good for Trump, no matter if we think it “fair” or not.

On that point… This is the type of thing that Trump has done to himself for his electoral prospects, let alone the question of leadership on this problem:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000007038780/trump-lies-about-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Yes, it is NYT. We worry here about how the MSM lies, but really should our eyes only be in that direction?

Is this video a bunch of lies the MSM is making up?

Was Trump being honest with us when he said these things?

Did we give Obama a pass or an excuse when he said “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”?

Since our politics have left the realm of consistency, ideas, and accountability, there is no value in pointing exclusively to the Dems or the MSM any more.

That just becomes a meaningless team sport, as there is no credibility behind it.

It won’t move the needle in elections for the people that hold that swing vote.

Fear and uncertainty will. We now have plenty of it.

The specter of doubt on Trump has been raised, completing the FUD.

If Trump wins, it will be in spite of himself. It will be the spineless obsequious establishment GOPe machine that does it for him.

So, heck yes, I am thankful Biden is the one who will be facing him vs Sanders.

I’m not sure many can hold there nose anymore for Trump.

My assumption as well.

Trum is not fighting the virus, he is fighting what he calls the “Invisible enemy”, which is in other words the Deep State/Cabal invisible war.

He is reacting to what the Cabal is doing. Likely some aerosol chemical trail deployment that will make things worse. Although the safest bet is still on 5g radiation transmission causing a second trigger in a bio warfare weapon.

Agree – a recession, not a collapse in 1918.

Maybe some people think the two are the same?

There was also a recession at the time of the 1957 Asian flu (H2N2). But the economics say that one was unrelated to the flu pandemic.

I will assume that a lot of pressure was brought to bear on the FDA. A lot.

Toilet paper hoarders severely impacted, news at 11. TP futures tank.

But seriously, good news.

Because China. And fervid imagination. Also a bit of, “…but if it saves one life” thrown in for good measure.