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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484919</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2020 03:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&#039;https://www.theglobalist.com/the-cost-of-a-human-life-statistically-speaking/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Cost of a Human Life, Statistically Speaking&lt;/a&gt;

TL;DR: between $7-9 million, according to the OMB when evaluating new regulations, etc.

Let&#039;s round up and say $10 million. So every hundred deaths is &quot;worth&quot; $1 billion. If the economic consequences of restrictions and lockdowns are greater than that, we overreacted. (And I don&#039;t think we should count stock market losses until the epidemic is over and it&#039;s re-stabilized.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='https://www.theglobalist.com/the-cost-of-a-human-life-statistically-speaking/' rel="nofollow">The Cost of a Human Life, Statistically Speaking</a></p>
<p>TL;DR: between $7-9 million, according to the OMB when evaluating new regulations, etc.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s round up and say $10 million. So every hundred deaths is &#8220;worth&#8221; $1 billion. If the economic consequences of restrictions and lockdowns are greater than that, we overreacted. (And I don&#8217;t think we should count stock market losses until the epidemic is over and it&#8217;s re-stabilized.)</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 22:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Sharon,

Who ever said the State Department was on &quot;our&quot; side. Certainly not you, certainly not me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sharon,</p>
<p>Who ever said the State Department was on &#8220;our&#8221; side. Certainly not you, certainly not me.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is a eye opening article, though not terribly surprising.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-generational-war-is-brewing-over-coronavirus/ar-BB11ihOw?li=BBnb7Kz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Generational War Is Brewing Over Coronavirus (no paywall)&lt;/a&gt;

Coronavirus = BoomerRemover?  Ah, the carefree under 30 crowd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a eye opening article, though not terribly surprising.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-generational-war-is-brewing-over-coronavirus/ar-BB11ihOw?li=BBnb7Kz" rel="nofollow">A Generational War Is Brewing Over Coronavirus (no paywall)</a></p>
<p>Coronavirus = BoomerRemover?  Ah, the carefree under 30 crowd.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484810</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Grey on finance:
 so unless it drops to below its 2016 low, it’s not a stock market/ wealth disaster, tho it will be a roller coaster (volatility!) for some while.

so your ok that we lose four years of GDP growth? who is the arbiter of saying things are too high? buffet wasnt saying it was too high... he was saying it was too high for him to invest.. totally different thing... and more so since he didnt have his friend obama in the white house helping him cheat as he did with keystone and bnsf rail... 

right now... there are people who live off their investments in old age.. 
they wont have time to recover and you will have to pay for them

I may even end up one of them now that 15 years of my effort has been denuded by 70% and not even in my hands to prevent... (401b from work)

if you knew more about what you talked about you would say other things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Grey on finance:<br />
 so unless it drops to below its 2016 low, it’s not a stock market/ wealth disaster, tho it will be a roller coaster (volatility!) for some while.</p>
<p>so your ok that we lose four years of GDP growth? who is the arbiter of saying things are too high? buffet wasnt saying it was too high&#8230; he was saying it was too high for him to invest.. totally different thing&#8230; and more so since he didnt have his friend obama in the white house helping him cheat as he did with keystone and bnsf rail&#8230; </p>
<p>right now&#8230; there are people who live off their investments in old age..<br />
they wont have time to recover and you will have to pay for them</p>
<p>I may even end up one of them now that 15 years of my effort has been denuded by 70% and not even in my hands to prevent&#8230; (401b from work)</p>
<p>if you knew more about what you talked about you would say other things.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484809</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Grey on costs.. 

yeah... old folk having to eat catfood and live in roach invested nycha housing cause this destroys their lifetime savings and investments is ok... 

its just not immediate enough to be counted...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Grey on costs.. </p>
<p>yeah&#8230; old folk having to eat catfood and live in roach invested nycha housing cause this destroys their lifetime savings and investments is ok&#8230; </p>
<p>its just not immediate enough to be counted&#8230;</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484808</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Concentrating people who are suspected of infection is not a good thing, and even though they are in cars, they don’t stay in their cars so they increase the risk to others in the vicinity. Think gas stations, for example.&lt;/b&gt;

ever drive behind a car and smell their cigarette/pot smoke? 

Realize that most of that was at one point in their lungs.. 
and drafting from the car in front of you is not a danger these docs are much aware of... someone needs a paper and a study, etc... but common sense isnt enough for them to think of it till AFTER its obvious... 

as i mention before. 
it always amazed me how this cossetted class wears the colored goggles (not glasses) that insures they see the world as they are told to see the world, almost no matter how inane that may be... [i could give dozens of examples in which it required a paper to change the goggle tints so they could see what before they couldnt see or believe!!!]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Concentrating people who are suspected of infection is not a good thing, and even though they are in cars, they don’t stay in their cars so they increase the risk to others in the vicinity. Think gas stations, for example.</b></p>
<p>ever drive behind a car and smell their cigarette/pot smoke? </p>
<p>Realize that most of that was at one point in their lungs..<br />
and drafting from the car in front of you is not a danger these docs are much aware of&#8230; someone needs a paper and a study, etc&#8230; but common sense isnt enough for them to think of it till AFTER its obvious&#8230; </p>
<p>as i mention before.<br />
it always amazed me how this cossetted class wears the colored goggles (not glasses) that insures they see the world as they are told to see the world, almost no matter how inane that may be&#8230; [i could give dozens of examples in which it required a paper to change the goggle tints so they could see what before they couldnt see or believe!!!]</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484807</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[F:

Drive through testing has been going on in South Korea for quite a while with seeming success.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F:</p>
<p>Drive through testing has been going on in South Korea for quite a while with seeming success.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484805</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom:

My apologies, make that your perspective from the Slovak Republic, since you aren&#039;t in Slovenia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:</p>
<p>My apologies, make that your perspective from the Slovak Republic, since you aren&#8217;t in Slovenia.</p>
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		By: texexec		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[texexec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All those who are bitching about the suggested measures to mitigate the coronavirus should go to this link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

The page presents four scenarios in a simulation of how the virus spreads:

1.  Everyone has freedom to interact with anyone.
2.  There are whole regions of quarantined  people.
3.  There is moderate &quot;social distancing&quot;.
4.  There is much &quot;social distancing&quot;.

There is MUCH better prevention of the virus with MUCH &quot;SOCIAL DISTANCING&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those who are bitching about the suggested measures to mitigate the coronavirus should go to this link:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/</a></p>
<p>The page presents four scenarios in a simulation of how the virus spreads:</p>
<p>1.  Everyone has freedom to interact with anyone.<br />
2.  There are whole regions of quarantined  people.<br />
3.  There is moderate &#8220;social distancing&#8221;.<br />
4.  There is much &#8220;social distancing&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is MUCH better prevention of the virus with MUCH &#8220;SOCIAL DISTANCING&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Sharon W		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/03/16/greater-san-francisco-shelters-in-place/#comment-2484798</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 17:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;There is no objective measure of “too little” or “too much” when the main goal of the media is to ensure that President Trump and republicans are not elected in November. Spending an infinite amount of money is not an option.&quot; Om

This. Except I would add, especially when that &quot;too little&quot; or &quot;too much&quot; has been required by the hard-working, law-abiding citizenry of this Republic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no objective measure of “too little” or “too much” when the main goal of the media is to ensure that President Trump and republicans are not elected in November. Spending an infinite amount of money is not an option.&#8221; Om</p>
<p>This. Except I would add, especially when that &#8220;too little&#8221; or &#8220;too much&#8221; has been required by the hard-working, law-abiding citizenry of this Republic.</p>
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