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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/26/heres-a-thread-to-talk-about-the-south-carolina-primary/#comment-2481986</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of the Imperial Presidency...Senator Joe Palpatine is on the case.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/02/28/biden-looking-forward-to-appointing-first-african-american-woman-to-u-s-senate/

&lt;blockquote&gt; Joe Biden has had some recall problems lately when it comes to the United States Senate, this despite his having been a member of that august body for 36 years. Last week, he expressed confidence in being able to help this year’s Democratic candidate win a Senate seat from Pennsylvania. The only problem is that there is no Senate race in Pennsylvania this year. Last Monday, he announced that he himself is “a Democratic candidate for the United State’s Senate.” No further comment needed.

Today he was at it again. He was in Sumter, S.C., to rally last-minute support ahead of Saturday’s primary. While addressing a predominantly black crowd, he pledged to &lt;b&gt;appoint&lt;/b&gt; “the first African American woman to the United States Senate.”

Watch:
...
The first black female to serve in the Senate was Carol Moseley-Braun of Illinois, who was &lt;b&gt;elected &lt;/b&gt;in 1993. Biden was a member of the Senate at the time. Has he forgotten that, too?

What is perhaps as surprising as Biden’s gaffe is that &lt;b&gt;the audience applauded when he made his pledge&lt;/b&gt;. Have they been failing to pay attention as well?
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

If you&#039;ve wondered why we call some people &quot;low information voters,&quot; (and they are not all black, by any stretch of the imagination), there&#039;s your answer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the Imperial Presidency&#8230;Senator Joe Palpatine is on the case.</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/02/28/biden-looking-forward-to-appointing-first-african-american-woman-to-u-s-senate/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/02/28/biden-looking-forward-to-appointing-first-african-american-woman-to-u-s-senate/</a></p>
<blockquote><p> Joe Biden has had some recall problems lately when it comes to the United States Senate, this despite his having been a member of that august body for 36 years. Last week, he expressed confidence in being able to help this year’s Democratic candidate win a Senate seat from Pennsylvania. The only problem is that there is no Senate race in Pennsylvania this year. Last Monday, he announced that he himself is “a Democratic candidate for the United State’s Senate.” No further comment needed.</p>
<p>Today he was at it again. He was in Sumter, S.C., to rally last-minute support ahead of Saturday’s primary. While addressing a predominantly black crowd, he pledged to <b>appoint</b> “the first African American woman to the United States Senate.”</p>
<p>Watch:<br />
&#8230;<br />
The first black female to serve in the Senate was Carol Moseley-Braun of Illinois, who was <b>elected </b>in 1993. Biden was a member of the Senate at the time. Has he forgotten that, too?</p>
<p>What is perhaps as surprising as Biden’s gaffe is that <b>the audience applauded when he made his pledge</b>. Have they been failing to pay attention as well?
</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;ve wondered why we call some people &#8220;low information voters,&#8221; (and they are not all black, by any stretch of the imagination), there&#8217;s your answer.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2020 02:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate:

Here is one engineering firm that is working on the mini-nukes:

https://www.nuscalepower.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate:</p>
<p>Here is one engineering firm that is working on the mini-nukes:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nuscalepower.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nuscalepower.com/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2020 21:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This didn&#039;t get very far, but they raise a good question.
That is, just how &quot;independent&quot; is Bernie Sanders the Independent?

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/02/25/2-florida-democrats-sue-to-keep-sanders-off-primary-ballot-1263505

&lt;blockquote&gt; Karen Gievers, a former circuit court judge representing Frank Bach and George Brown, both Tallahassee Democrats, said Sanders should not be allowed on the Democratic ballot.

Sanders caucuses with Democrats in the Senate but lists himself as an independent and has raised money in his Senate campaign account as an independent, according to the lawsuit.

“Florida is a closed primary state, yet here we have someone who is an independent on the Democratic ballot,” said Gievers. “You can’t be an independent and be a member of the party.”
...
Florida law gives political parties leeway to decide which candidates can appear on a party’s primary ballot, and the Florida Democratic Party last year chose to include major candidates with national attention and national reach.

Sixteen candidates will be listed on the party’s primary ballot, even though several have withdrawn from the race.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This didn&#8217;t get very far, but they raise a good question.<br />
That is, just how &#8220;independent&#8221; is Bernie Sanders the Independent?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/02/25/2-florida-democrats-sue-to-keep-sanders-off-primary-ballot-1263505" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/02/25/2-florida-democrats-sue-to-keep-sanders-off-primary-ballot-1263505</a></p>
<blockquote><p> Karen Gievers, a former circuit court judge representing Frank Bach and George Brown, both Tallahassee Democrats, said Sanders should not be allowed on the Democratic ballot.</p>
<p>Sanders caucuses with Democrats in the Senate but lists himself as an independent and has raised money in his Senate campaign account as an independent, according to the lawsuit.</p>
<p>“Florida is a closed primary state, yet here we have someone who is an independent on the Democratic ballot,” said Gievers. “You can’t be an independent and be a member of the party.”<br />
&#8230;<br />
Florida law gives political parties leeway to decide which candidates can appear on a party’s primary ballot, and the Florida Democratic Party last year chose to include major candidates with national attention and national reach.</p>
<p>Sixteen candidates will be listed on the party’s primary ballot, even though several have withdrawn from the race.
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2020 21:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking as an amateur birdwatcher, I have long been appalled by the bird death count from wind turbines and solar farms.  Let&#039;s develop the new generation of mini-nukes, along with distributed generation and transmission.  We&#039;d save a lot of birds and make our power grids a lot less susceptible to failure from either natural events or attacks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as an amateur birdwatcher, I have long been appalled by the bird death count from wind turbines and solar farms.  Let&#8217;s develop the new generation of mini-nukes, along with distributed generation and transmission.  We&#8217;d save a lot of birds and make our power grids a lot less susceptible to failure from either natural events or attacks.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/26/heres-a-thread-to-talk-about-the-south-carolina-primary/#comment-2481803</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2020 21:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the spirit of Neo&#039;s invitation to just chat, we should not lose sight of the fact that any of the Democrat candidates, if elected, &lt;b&gt;will immediately shut down all investigations&lt;/b&gt; into the Russiagate / Spygate / Agency malfeasance / criminal activities that have been occurring since at least 2012, if not earlier.

&lt;em&gt;All of them &lt;/em&gt;will do that.

They will also fire all of Trump&#039;s agency and department heads, despite their caterwauling when he fires Obama&#039;s (which he didn&#039;t do nearly soon enough).

Here&#039;s a deep dive by Dyer into some of the more intriguing details that have slipped by other analysts, or haven&#039;t gotten much traction in the press.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/02/27/march-2016-brennan-spygate-and-the-three-threads/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the spirit of Neo&#8217;s invitation to just chat, we should not lose sight of the fact that any of the Democrat candidates, if elected, <b>will immediately shut down all investigations</b> into the Russiagate / Spygate / Agency malfeasance / criminal activities that have been occurring since at least 2012, if not earlier.</p>
<p><em>All of them </em>will do that.</p>
<p>They will also fire all of Trump&#8217;s agency and department heads, despite their caterwauling when he fires Obama&#8217;s (which he didn&#8217;t do nearly soon enough).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a deep dive by Dyer into some of the more intriguing details that have slipped by other analysts, or haven&#8217;t gotten much traction in the press.</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/02/27/march-2016-brennan-spygate-and-the-three-threads/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/02/27/march-2016-brennan-spygate-and-the-three-threads/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2020 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aesop Fan:

Flimsy rhetoric exemplified:

&quot;......The number of birds that die from other causes, including fossil and nuclear energy sources, is vastly larger, but wind power critics are not going to mention this fact because it would undermine or negate their flimsy rhetoric.”

Green dead wild birds aren&#039;t the same as other dead wild birds, not in numbers nor in kind.  The green dead wild birds died for a noble cause - the Greed New Deal (Power Over All Plan).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aesop Fan:</p>
<p>Flimsy rhetoric exemplified:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;The number of birds that die from other causes, including fossil and nuclear energy sources, is vastly larger, but wind power critics are not going to mention this fact because it would undermine or negate their flimsy rhetoric.”</p>
<p>Green dead wild birds aren&#8217;t the same as other dead wild birds, not in numbers nor in kind.  The green dead wild birds died for a noble cause &#8211; the Greed New Deal (Power Over All Plan).</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2020 20:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the &quot;bird death rays,&quot; none of these stories came out of the VRWM media.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188328-californias-new-solar-power-plant-is-actually-a-death-ray-thats-incinerating-birds-mid-flight
&quot;What spans 1,600 hectares, cost $2.2 billion to build, and potentially fries hundreds of thousands of birds per year? The new BrightSource solar power plant in California’s Mojave Dessert. The plant, which uses some 350,000 garage-door-sized mirrors to focus sunlight on three boiler towers, also acts as a death ray, instantly igniting and killing any wildlife that happen to fly through the intense beam of light. &quot;

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html
&quot;In an interview this week, David Knox, a spokesman for NRG Energy Inc., said the Ivanpah team has been testing an ever-changing combination of tactics to minimize bird deaths and injuries ...&quot;

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/nevadas-massive-solar-plant-death-ray-birds/358244/
&quot;The Wall Street Journal reported last week that California&#039;s energy commission urged BrightSource to steer clear of tower-based solar farms like Ivanpah in future projects because of their cost and effects on wildlife: &quot;

The Extreme Tech article address the arguments of the Clean Technica post (&quot;yeah, but, lots of things kill even more birds&quot;) with some figures, but the bottom line is that windows and cats are not being deliberately built to promote a political agenda that has birds as its major casualty.

I&#039;ll let Clean Technic have the last word, because I didn&#039;t take the time to track down all their claims.
&quot;To summarize the wind power and bird death situations simply, it is clear that the number of bird deaths caused by this form of clean, renewable energy is &lt;b&gt;relatively &lt;/b&gt;very small. This is not to say that those deaths don’t matter — they do, and there might be some strategies and/or new technologies to apply to reduce or perhaps even solve this problem some day. The number of birds that die from other causes, including fossil and nuclear energy sources, is vastly larger, but wind power critics are not going to mention this fact because it would undermine or negate their flimsy rhetoric.&quot;

Some of the &quot;other causes&quot; are commercial farming of domestic fowl for food, and hunting, which at least result in productive use of the birds.

And they&#039;ll still jail you for picking up feathers from birds you didn&#039;t kill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the &#8220;bird death rays,&#8221; none of these stories came out of the VRWM media.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188328-californias-new-solar-power-plant-is-actually-a-death-ray-thats-incinerating-birds-mid-flight" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188328-californias-new-solar-power-plant-is-actually-a-death-ray-thats-incinerating-birds-mid-flight</a><br />
&#8220;What spans 1,600 hectares, cost $2.2 billion to build, and potentially fries hundreds of thousands of birds per year? The new BrightSource solar power plant in California’s Mojave Dessert. The plant, which uses some 350,000 garage-door-sized mirrors to focus sunlight on three boiler towers, also acts as a death ray, instantly igniting and killing any wildlife that happen to fly through the intense beam of light. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html</a><br />
&#8220;In an interview this week, David Knox, a spokesman for NRG Energy Inc., said the Ivanpah team has been testing an ever-changing combination of tactics to minimize bird deaths and injuries &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/nevadas-massive-solar-plant-death-ray-birds/358244/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/nevadas-massive-solar-plant-death-ray-birds/358244/</a><br />
&#8220;The Wall Street Journal reported last week that California&#8217;s energy commission urged BrightSource to steer clear of tower-based solar farms like Ivanpah in future projects because of their cost and effects on wildlife: &#8221;</p>
<p>The Extreme Tech article address the arguments of the Clean Technica post (&#8220;yeah, but, lots of things kill even more birds&#8221;) with some figures, but the bottom line is that windows and cats are not being deliberately built to promote a political agenda that has birds as its major casualty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let Clean Technic have the last word, because I didn&#8217;t take the time to track down all their claims.<br />
&#8220;To summarize the wind power and bird death situations simply, it is clear that the number of bird deaths caused by this form of clean, renewable energy is <b>relatively </b>very small. This is not to say that those deaths don’t matter — they do, and there might be some strategies and/or new technologies to apply to reduce or perhaps even solve this problem some day. The number of birds that die from other causes, including fossil and nuclear energy sources, is vastly larger, but wind power critics are not going to mention this fact because it would undermine or negate their flimsy rhetoric.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of the &#8220;other causes&#8221; are commercial farming of domestic fowl for food, and hunting, which at least result in productive use of the birds.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;ll still jail you for picking up feathers from birds you didn&#8217;t kill.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2020 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here in NC, I voted early because I&#039;m an election worker and there might not be time on election day.  The county set up a HUGE voting enclosure to handle north Raleigh/north Wake County voters.  It was empty.  Early voting turnout is way, way down.  Conversations with some Democrats tell me that they simply are not enthused by the field they&#039;ve been offered.  Some will sit it out in November if Bernie is the nominee, but they don&#039;t care enough about the alternatives to go try nominating one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in NC, I voted early because I&#8217;m an election worker and there might not be time on election day.  The county set up a HUGE voting enclosure to handle north Raleigh/north Wake County voters.  It was empty.  Early voting turnout is way, way down.  Conversations with some Democrats tell me that they simply are not enthused by the field they&#8217;ve been offered.  Some will sit it out in November if Bernie is the nominee, but they don&#8217;t care enough about the alternatives to go try nominating one.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2020 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Esther &#038; SueK - Logical reasoning is not the Left&#039;s purpose, or a strongpoint for its dupes.

Recall also that, while any of us would be fined or jailed for picking up Bald Eagle (and other protected species) feathers from the ground (road-kill or just shed), the Enviro-fascists stay resolutely mum about the avian carnage of their precious wind turbines and solar arrays aka &quot;bird death rays.&quot;

Compare and contrast, as I pointed out with the Bee article on a couple of threads.
https://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind-turbines-ever-be-safe-birds
&quot;Will Wind Turbines Ever Be Safe For Birds?
Sure, it’s green energy—but it also results in hundreds of thousands of bird deaths each year.&quot;
vs.
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/02/21/wind-power-results-bird-deaths-overall/
&quot;Wind Power Results In Very Few Bird Deaths Overall&quot;
vs.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-wind-turbines-really-kill-180948154/
&quot;In the end, using 58 mortality estimates that met their criteria, they came up with an estimate. According to the current literature somewhere between 140,000 and 328,000 birds die each year from collisions with wind turbines. &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esther &amp; SueK &#8211; Logical reasoning is not the Left&#8217;s purpose, or a strongpoint for its dupes.</p>
<p>Recall also that, while any of us would be fined or jailed for picking up Bald Eagle (and other protected species) feathers from the ground (road-kill or just shed), the Enviro-fascists stay resolutely mum about the avian carnage of their precious wind turbines and solar arrays aka &#8220;bird death rays.&#8221;</p>
<p>Compare and contrast, as I pointed out with the Bee article on a couple of threads.<br />
<a href="https://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind-turbines-ever-be-safe-birds" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind-turbines-ever-be-safe-birds</a><br />
&#8220;Will Wind Turbines Ever Be Safe For Birds?<br />
Sure, it’s green energy—but it also results in hundreds of thousands of bird deaths each year.&#8221;<br />
vs.<br />
<a href="https://cleantechnica.com/2018/02/21/wind-power-results-bird-deaths-overall/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://cleantechnica.com/2018/02/21/wind-power-results-bird-deaths-overall/</a><br />
&#8220;Wind Power Results In Very Few Bird Deaths Overall&#8221;<br />
vs.<br />
<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-wind-turbines-really-kill-180948154/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-wind-turbines-really-kill-180948154/</a><br />
&#8220;In the end, using 58 mortality estimates that met their criteria, they came up with an estimate. According to the current literature somewhere between 140,000 and 328,000 birds die each year from collisions with wind turbines. &#8220;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SueK, Wow, the bald eagle egg analogy is pretty stunning!]]></description>
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