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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 02:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan: Precisely. I believe that Video Calling is precisely for family and loved ones and pretty much nothing else.

Of course given the Fallen State of Man, Corporate Cultural Tyranny and Porn exist and account for nearly all of the remaining use of this technology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan: Precisely. I believe that Video Calling is precisely for family and loved ones and pretty much nothing else.</p>
<p>Of course given the Fallen State of Man, Corporate Cultural Tyranny and Porn exist and account for nearly all of the remaining use of this technology.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 02:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another blessing of the cell phone revolution is that third-world countries only have to invest in cell towers, not subterranean or pole-borne wires (or whatever they make these days).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another blessing of the cell phone revolution is that third-world countries only have to invest in cell towers, not subterranean or pole-borne wires (or whatever they make these days).</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 02:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have noticed, though, that essentially free video calling using apps has been universally adopted by the Filipino and Indonesian maids working in Hong Kong. It’s a godsend to mothers forced by economic circumstances to work far from their young children.

The area I live in has more or less unlimited free WiFi so that they can walk around all doing their jobs and voice chatting even when they’re not video calling.

Another anthropological observation: In Mainland China ‘push to talk’ type chat is very popular. People go about their business holding back and forth voice conversations in WeChat. In other words they send a recorded message in that particular chat window and other person(s) respond similarly. Point being that you’re busy you don’t need to listen to a message snippet immediately. This probably took off initially due to Chinese Text Input being a bit more difficult than (say) English, but these days is possible to blast out written Chinese very quickly if one makes the effort to learn the more efficient input methods or even just uses text-to-speech.

Still, this back and forth with recorded voice snippets seems baked into the Mainland Chinese tech genome now and here to stay for a while.

So, I guess habits differ. For sure Westerners are much more privacy-oriented and individualistic than East Asians... and South-East Asians practically wither and die if ‘alone’ for any length of time.

Funny Old World.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed, though, that essentially free video calling using apps has been universally adopted by the Filipino and Indonesian maids working in Hong Kong. It’s a godsend to mothers forced by economic circumstances to work far from their young children.</p>
<p>The area I live in has more or less unlimited free WiFi so that they can walk around all doing their jobs and voice chatting even when they’re not video calling.</p>
<p>Another anthropological observation: In Mainland China ‘push to talk’ type chat is very popular. People go about their business holding back and forth voice conversations in WeChat. In other words they send a recorded message in that particular chat window and other person(s) respond similarly. Point being that you’re busy you don’t need to listen to a message snippet immediately. This probably took off initially due to Chinese Text Input being a bit more difficult than (say) English, but these days is possible to blast out written Chinese very quickly if one makes the effort to learn the more efficient input methods or even just uses text-to-speech.</p>
<p>Still, this back and forth with recorded voice snippets seems baked into the Mainland Chinese tech genome now and here to stay for a while.</p>
<p>So, I guess habits differ. For sure Westerners are much more privacy-oriented and individualistic than East Asians&#8230; and South-East Asians practically wither and die if ‘alone’ for any length of time.</p>
<p>Funny Old World.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 02:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Zaphod - I appreciate your dislike for video calls in general, but we &quot;hangout&quot; with our kids once a week at a set time, and (although we all look terrible and the rooms are horribly cluttered), we enjoy being able to catch-up as a group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Zaphod &#8211; I appreciate your dislike for video calls in general, but we &#8220;hangout&#8221; with our kids once a week at a set time, and (although we all look terrible and the rooms are horribly cluttered), we enjoy being able to catch-up as a group.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 02:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T Migratorius is correct about personality types, btw.
You can read about one prominent model in any Myers-Briggs Type Indicator article, or David Keirsey&#039;s Temperament Sorter. 
We &quot;typed&quot; our family when the kids were in middle- and high-school, and were able to defuse a lot of interpersonal conflicts once we knew where everyone fell on the spectra.

MBTI is more theoretically Jungian, and DKTS (although based on the MBTI) is more heuristic.
Wikipedia is pretty good with both of them here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator 

There are 16 major variants (4 factors each with 2 opposite poles), and oodles of grey areas, so sometimes typing approaches astrology, but people who are solidly in one of the cells are really unmistakable for any other major type.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T Migratorius is correct about personality types, btw.<br />
You can read about one prominent model in any Myers-Briggs Type Indicator article, or David Keirsey&#8217;s Temperament Sorter.<br />
We &#8220;typed&#8221; our family when the kids were in middle- and high-school, and were able to defuse a lot of interpersonal conflicts once we knew where everyone fell on the spectra.</p>
<p>MBTI is more theoretically Jungian, and DKTS (although based on the MBTI) is more heuristic.<br />
Wikipedia is pretty good with both of them here: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator</a> </p>
<p>There are 16 major variants (4 factors each with 2 opposite poles), and oodles of grey areas, so sometimes typing approaches astrology, but people who are solidly in one of the cells are really unmistakable for any other major type.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 01:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn’t it interesting that back in the day we watched SF movies full of Video Phones and pretty much that was how it was going to be.

Now, apart from teleconferencing - which is an imposition I’d better be getting paid to participate in - and talking to one’s nephews/nieces or later in life grandchildren, what’s the use case for video calling (apart from, of course, Porn)?

Video is just too much of an intrusion into our private lives. When we go out to meet people face-to-face, we instinctively ‘put on our faces’ and gird up for it. At home and the Kubrickian Videophone beeps, it’s a mild existential terror.

What’s happening now with voice calls vs. text is at least partly an evolution of this — at least for us introverts.

Who knows what the eventual steady state condition will become? At least until The Machine Stops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t it interesting that back in the day we watched SF movies full of Video Phones and pretty much that was how it was going to be.</p>
<p>Now, apart from teleconferencing &#8211; which is an imposition I’d better be getting paid to participate in &#8211; and talking to one’s nephews/nieces or later in life grandchildren, what’s the use case for video calling (apart from, of course, Porn)?</p>
<p>Video is just too much of an intrusion into our private lives. When we go out to meet people face-to-face, we instinctively ‘put on our faces’ and gird up for it. At home and the Kubrickian Videophone beeps, it’s a mild existential terror.</p>
<p>What’s happening now with voice calls vs. text is at least partly an evolution of this — at least for us introverts.</p>
<p>Who knows what the eventual steady state condition will become? At least until The Machine Stops.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 01:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I shall now proceed to relate a true story about a phone call, demonstrating the perils of voice communication.

One summer when I was home from college, the phone rang at around 2 or 3 in the morning.  Being an old-style Ma Bell rotary, it sat in the built-in niche in the hall outside my parents bedroom.  My somewhat irate father summoned me to the instrument, and stood forebodingly nearby as I exchanged somewhat noncommittal pleasantries with an obviously inebriated female caller.
After I hung up, he asked roughly, &quot;Who ... was that?&quot; (my Dad did not swear in our presence, but I could fill it in from his tone).
I replied gently, &quot;Your sister.&quot;
He turned and went back into his room without further remark.

(She was a dear and devoted auntie, but at that time a bit of a lush.  She and her second husband dried out together later in life.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shall now proceed to relate a true story about a phone call, demonstrating the perils of voice communication.</p>
<p>One summer when I was home from college, the phone rang at around 2 or 3 in the morning.  Being an old-style Ma Bell rotary, it sat in the built-in niche in the hall outside my parents bedroom.  My somewhat irate father summoned me to the instrument, and stood forebodingly nearby as I exchanged somewhat noncommittal pleasantries with an obviously inebriated female caller.<br />
After I hung up, he asked roughly, &#8220;Who &#8230; was that?&#8221; (my Dad did not swear in our presence, but I could fill it in from his tone).<br />
I replied gently, &#8220;Your sister.&#8221;<br />
He turned and went back into his room without further remark.</p>
<p>(She was a dear and devoted auntie, but at that time a bit of a lush.  She and her second husband dried out together later in life.)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 01:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo - an extraverted introvert is not that unusual.
We (AesopSpouse and I and 3 out of 5 kids) are just that way, as are some of our closer friends.
Being with people is important, and so we have a tendency to &quot;lurk&quot; at social events without being as outgoing as true extraverts, but it is an effort to maintain our contacts, because -- in reality -- we really get our energy from privately studying and pondering.  
Which is why I love blog commenting - it feeds both ends of the spectrum.

Paradoxically, perhaps, we have all been active in theater and scouting, where the interactions are defined and to some extent finite, so we have decided to call  ourselves &quot;performing introverts.&quot;

As for the phone polling: 
We only answer if the caller ID is known, or if an unknown number is expected (I&#039;ve been surprised sometimes that a call I was waiting for came from a non-local area code, but people no longer change their mobile numbers when they move). 
Fortunately, the landline mailbox sends an email to both of us with voice transcription if someone does leave a message (we get some very strange ones from time to time, which I sometimes forward to the caller with some gentle hints about elocution).
Robocalls on cell phones are a pain; they used to be illegal because the receiver was the one paying for the minutes, but now everyone is on unlimited plans. 
I used to block numbers, but the memory allotted for that function on my landline phone ran out, so now I don&#039;t bother.  Sometimes I save them under &quot;scam&quot; but mostly I just ignore them.
Scammers who prey on elderly people with &quot;great deals if you sign up now&quot; or &quot;the IRS is going to put you in jail if you don&#039;t call back&quot; and so forth are prime targets for a new circle in Dante&#039;s Inferno.  They can all sit around calling each other for eternity.

I have grown to like texting for quick messages that don&#039;t really need discussion, because people (including me) aren&#039;t interrupted with those as much as with voice calls.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo &#8211; an extraverted introvert is not that unusual.<br />
We (AesopSpouse and I and 3 out of 5 kids) are just that way, as are some of our closer friends.<br />
Being with people is important, and so we have a tendency to &#8220;lurk&#8221; at social events without being as outgoing as true extraverts, but it is an effort to maintain our contacts, because &#8212; in reality &#8212; we really get our energy from privately studying and pondering.<br />
Which is why I love blog commenting &#8211; it feeds both ends of the spectrum.</p>
<p>Paradoxically, perhaps, we have all been active in theater and scouting, where the interactions are defined and to some extent finite, so we have decided to call  ourselves &#8220;performing introverts.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the phone polling:<br />
We only answer if the caller ID is known, or if an unknown number is expected (I&#8217;ve been surprised sometimes that a call I was waiting for came from a non-local area code, but people no longer change their mobile numbers when they move).<br />
Fortunately, the landline mailbox sends an email to both of us with voice transcription if someone does leave a message (we get some very strange ones from time to time, which I sometimes forward to the caller with some gentle hints about elocution).<br />
Robocalls on cell phones are a pain; they used to be illegal because the receiver was the one paying for the minutes, but now everyone is on unlimited plans.<br />
I used to block numbers, but the memory allotted for that function on my landline phone ran out, so now I don&#8217;t bother.  Sometimes I save them under &#8220;scam&#8221; but mostly I just ignore them.<br />
Scammers who prey on elderly people with &#8220;great deals if you sign up now&#8221; or &#8220;the IRS is going to put you in jail if you don&#8217;t call back&#8221; and so forth are prime targets for a new circle in Dante&#8217;s Inferno.  They can all sit around calling each other for eternity.</p>
<p>I have grown to like texting for quick messages that don&#8217;t really need discussion, because people (including me) aren&#8217;t interrupted with those as much as with voice calls.</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an introvert. But a slightly extraverted introvert.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an introvert. But a slightly extraverted introvert.</p>
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		By: Meemsie (formerly Susanamantha)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meemsie (formerly Susanamantha)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2020 22:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My gradual dislike of answering the phone stems from two totally different situations. One of my good friends would call me and relate enormously complicated work/life/ stories, ones involving people I didn&#039;t know with details too tedious for me to care about. These conversations would last waaaaay too long and, although I cared for her and realized that she needed to talk to someone, I was tired of being her listening post. I had to invent reasons to cut the phone calls short and I was left with guilt at doing so. 

The other was when my mother was suffering from health problems. I began to dread the sound of the phone ringing, especially early in the morning or late at night. Too often it meant a health issue that needed my attention. 

Now it is the robocalls. No rest for the wicked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My gradual dislike of answering the phone stems from two totally different situations. One of my good friends would call me and relate enormously complicated work/life/ stories, ones involving people I didn&#8217;t know with details too tedious for me to care about. These conversations would last waaaaay too long and, although I cared for her and realized that she needed to talk to someone, I was tired of being her listening post. I had to invent reasons to cut the phone calls short and I was left with guilt at doing so. </p>
<p>The other was when my mother was suffering from health problems. I began to dread the sound of the phone ringing, especially early in the morning or late at night. Too often it meant a health issue that needed my attention. </p>
<p>Now it is the robocalls. No rest for the wicked.</p>
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