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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/05/romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump/#comment-2479581</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Romney&#039;s dislike of Trump is long-standing.&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/full-transcript-mitt-romneys-remarks-on-donald-trump-and-the-2016-race-220176&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mitt Romney&#039;s remarks on Donald Trump and the 2016 race (March 3,2016).&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; I am not here to announce my candidacy for office. I am not going to endorse a candidate today. Instead, I would like to offer my perspective on the nominating process of my party.......
Mr. Trump is directing our anger for less than noble purposes. He creates scapegoats of Muslims and Mexican immigrants, he calls for the use of torture and for killing the innocent children and family members of terrorists. He cheers assaults on protesters. He applauds the prospect of twisting the Constitution to limit first amendment freedom of the press. This is the very brand of anger that has led other nations into the abyss.
Here&#039;s what I know. Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He&#039;s playing the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat.
  &lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;Given what Romney said about Trump, it is not difficult to see why Trump didn&#039;t offer Mitt a position in his Administration. 

How was Mitt as a prognosticator?
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;  His domestic policies would lead to recession. His foreign policies would make America and the world less safe. He has neither the temperament nor the judgment to be president. And his personal qualities would mean that America would cease to be a shining city on a hill.  &lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;Not very good.
  Unfortunately, Mitt&#039;s term ends in five years. So, you can&#039;t get rid of him very easily.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney&#8217;s dislike of Trump is long-standing.<a href="https://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/full-transcript-mitt-romneys-remarks-on-donald-trump-and-the-2016-race-220176" rel="nofollow">Mitt Romney&#8217;s remarks on Donald Trump and the 2016 race (March 3,2016).</a></p>
<blockquote><p><i> I am not here to announce my candidacy for office. I am not going to endorse a candidate today. Instead, I would like to offer my perspective on the nominating process of my party&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Mr. Trump is directing our anger for less than noble purposes. He creates scapegoats of Muslims and Mexican immigrants, he calls for the use of torture and for killing the innocent children and family members of terrorists. He cheers assaults on protesters. He applauds the prospect of twisting the Constitution to limit first amendment freedom of the press. This is the very brand of anger that has led other nations into the abyss.<br />
Here&#8217;s what I know. Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He&#8217;s playing the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat.<br />
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<p>Given what Romney said about Trump, it is not difficult to see why Trump didn&#8217;t offer Mitt a position in his Administration. </p>
<p>How was Mitt as a prognosticator?</p>
<blockquote><p><i>  His domestic policies would lead to recession. His foreign policies would make America and the world less safe. He has neither the temperament nor the judgment to be president. And his personal qualities would mean that America would cease to be a shining city on a hill.  </i> </p></blockquote>
<p>Not very good.<br />
  Unfortunately, Mitt&#8217;s term ends in five years. So, you can&#8217;t get rid of him very easily.</p>
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		By: Dipsy Doodle		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/05/romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump/#comment-2479575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dipsy Doodle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 17:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nothing to see here. Romney has always been a coward and a fraud, from day one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing to see here. Romney has always been a coward and a fraud, from day one.</p>
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		By: Patrick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/05/romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump/#comment-2479574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 16:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Nolte collected some quotes from Mittens.  I think no one has more regard for Romney than Romeny.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/06/mitt-romney-pays-tribute-himself-voting-convict-innocent-man/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Nolte collected some quotes from Mittens.  I think no one has more regard for Romney than Romeny.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/06/mitt-romney-pays-tribute-himself-voting-convict-innocent-man/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/06/mitt-romney-pays-tribute-himself-voting-convict-innocent-man/</a></p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/05/romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump/#comment-2479569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JFM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 16:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At least Paul Ryan has had the decency to retire from public life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Paul Ryan has had the decency to retire from public life.</p>
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		By: John Dough		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/05/romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump/#comment-2479568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Dough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 16:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The best observation is that Mitt voted for more witnesses the week before to help make up his mind. Well he didn&#039;t get anymore witnesses, but that didn&#039;t stop him from making up his mind and voting to remove Trump from office. So he really didn&#039;t need more witnesses...did he? It was all a sham to cover his sorry ass.

Having been raised around Mormons for most of my life, I always thought highly of them and for the most part voted for them. Following Jeff Flake, Mike Lee (his poorly timed attack after the briefing on the killing of Salamani in front of the Left-wing radical MSM) and Now Mitt-ens, NEVER AGAIN. I encourage others to consider the same path. Their religion teaches it males to be Christ-like in dealing with other people. This is commendable; however they need to show more anger every once in awhile like Christ throwing the money changers from the Temple instead of always Christ laying down with lambs. Sometimes those lamb are wolves dressed as Democrats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best observation is that Mitt voted for more witnesses the week before to help make up his mind. Well he didn&#8217;t get anymore witnesses, but that didn&#8217;t stop him from making up his mind and voting to remove Trump from office. So he really didn&#8217;t need more witnesses&#8230;did he? It was all a sham to cover his sorry ass.</p>
<p>Having been raised around Mormons for most of my life, I always thought highly of them and for the most part voted for them. Following Jeff Flake, Mike Lee (his poorly timed attack after the briefing on the killing of Salamani in front of the Left-wing radical MSM) and Now Mitt-ens, NEVER AGAIN. I encourage others to consider the same path. Their religion teaches it males to be Christ-like in dealing with other people. This is commendable; however they need to show more anger every once in awhile like Christ throwing the money changers from the Temple instead of always Christ laying down with lambs. Sometimes those lamb are wolves dressed as Democrats.</p>
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		By: vanderleun		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanderleun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 15:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TRUMP JUst stomped on Romney with this videotweet:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1225203837226700800]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRUMP JUst stomped on Romney with this videotweet:</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1225203837226700800" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1225203837226700800</a></p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/05/romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump/#comment-2479559</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 13:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J.,
I just called Romney&#039;s office and left a message. Thanks for the phone number.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J.,<br />
I just called Romney&#8217;s office and left a message. Thanks for the phone number.</p>
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		By: Amadeus 48		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/05/romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump/#comment-2479553</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amadeus 48]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 12:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What Romney and every other Republican should have said to the House Managers was, &quot;Sorry for your loss, suckers.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Romney and every other Republican should have said to the House Managers was, &#8220;Sorry for your loss, suckers.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Amadeus 48		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/02/05/romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump/#comment-2479551</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amadeus 48]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 12:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Disraeli said about Gladstone, &quot;He made his conscience not his guide but his accomplice.&quot; More on this in a comment on Neo&#039;s following post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disraeli said about Gladstone, &#8220;He made his conscience not his guide but his accomplice.&#8221; More on this in a comment on Neo&#8217;s following post.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 11:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Romney votes with Reps on 80% - McConnell often needs that vote.
 
NBC has Romney&#039;s speech (in text! so I can read it).  He knows his vote is symbolic.

I&#039;m fairly sure, in his own mind, he really thinks Trump was guilty of abuse of power, for personal and political gain.  As he writes.

If he really thinks that, and I think he really does, he made the right vote.  I think he&#039;s really really wrong about Trump being guilty of any abuse.

It&#039;s not clear to me that Romney understands the difference between &quot;use of power&quot; and &quot;abuse of power&quot; -- despite him having better abs than Trump.

It&#039;s also possible, tho not at all stated, that Romney thought Obama was abusing his power, and that Joe Biden was abusing his power -- but there were not votes on that question.

Romney also wanted more witnesses, especially Bolton.  I sort of did, too. Especially Hunter Biden. Romney notes Joe Biden should have recused himself on Ukraine, with his son getting an exorbitant salary. &quot;While ignoring a conflict of interest is not a crime, it is surely very wrong&quot;.

Actually, it was bribery.  A crime. The DOJ should be prosecuting Joe Biden for it.  I&#039;m outraged that the DOJ is not doing so.

Getting outraged at Mittens for rationalizing his conviction vote, rather than outraged at the deep state&#039;s protection of Dem crimes, seems to me to be a bad distraction.  A re-direction of attention from the real problem, DOJ failing to prosecute real Dem crimes, to the preferred deep state shampeachment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney votes with Reps on 80% &#8211; McConnell often needs that vote.</p>
<p>NBC has Romney&#8217;s speech (in text! so I can read it).  He knows his vote is symbolic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fairly sure, in his own mind, he really thinks Trump was guilty of abuse of power, for personal and political gain.  As he writes.</p>
<p>If he really thinks that, and I think he really does, he made the right vote.  I think he&#8217;s really really wrong about Trump being guilty of any abuse.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not clear to me that Romney understands the difference between &#8220;use of power&#8221; and &#8220;abuse of power&#8221; &#8212; despite him having better abs than Trump.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also possible, tho not at all stated, that Romney thought Obama was abusing his power, and that Joe Biden was abusing his power &#8212; but there were not votes on that question.</p>
<p>Romney also wanted more witnesses, especially Bolton.  I sort of did, too. Especially Hunter Biden. Romney notes Joe Biden should have recused himself on Ukraine, with his son getting an exorbitant salary. &#8220;While ignoring a conflict of interest is not a crime, it is surely very wrong&#8221;.</p>
<p>Actually, it was bribery.  A crime. The DOJ should be prosecuting Joe Biden for it.  I&#8217;m outraged that the DOJ is not doing so.</p>
<p>Getting outraged at Mittens for rationalizing his conviction vote, rather than outraged at the deep state&#8217;s protection of Dem crimes, seems to me to be a bad distraction.  A re-direction of attention from the real problem, DOJ failing to prosecute real Dem crimes, to the preferred deep state shampeachment.</p>
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