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		By: stan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[re: terrorism

There were thousands of Lefty terrorist bombings in the US in the early part of the 70s. The Red Guards and other lefty groups continued that type of terrorism in Europe for decades.]]></description>
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<p>There were thousands of Lefty terrorist bombings in the US in the early part of the 70s. The Red Guards and other lefty groups continued that type of terrorism in Europe for decades.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2020 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tons more.. 
but when you have to agree with a professor and others about a political truth to earn a degree, and more... why bother... not like america needs men any more... not like we are ever going to have a conflict... or need to risk inventing... do note that a lot of the numbers on benefits are juggled, its not only what they compute, its how they compute it, and they throw out a lot of data if its &#039;inconvenient&#039;. 

I&#039;ve been beating this drum for decades... its not bad enough to warrant much discussion over that period... look how bad the schools had to get before Neo did a thread on it, but still, the people who warned early are unheard for either their divulging things, or for how they changed

I&#039;ve given up now... 
there is no chance for anything.. 
all the funding for those without connections go to the protected classes
(another drum i mentioned only to be called names)

the SBA wont help... its only for women - 8A program eats all funds - and gives very asymmetric help, which means if your not one of them, your not able to get any help 
This was explained to me by a banker...  They are clever about the language they use, and so, good people do not really know what goes on there. Certainly Neo didnt when i tried to explain it over 10 years ago. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The 8(a) Mentor-Protégé program is designed to encourage mentor businesses to provide development assistance to protégé businesses. 
A protégé can get valuable assistance from a mentor in several areas, including:
    Technical and/or management assistance
    Financing in the form of equity investments and/or loans
    Trade education
    Government contracting

Businesses that have an SBA-approved mentor-protégé agreement can form a joint venture, and compete together for contracts that have been set aside for small businesses

The 7(j) program provides assistance such as training, executive education, and one-on-one consulting in a wide range of business activities, including marketing, accounting, opportunity development and capture, contract management, compliance, and financial analysis. [you have to be an 8A to get 7J]

Lots more stuff if you dig... like free or discounted office equipment, abatements, a separate database for contract bidding... etc. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;b&gt;None of the above is available if your not a protected class designated as disadvantaged&lt;/b&gt;

Why would anyone risk any others?  this is why women businesses are growing, not because they are out-competing, but because they have super advantages that keep on coming... 

As i said, i have given up now... 
there is no way to compete and the men know it
they know their tax dollars go to fund their negative outcome]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tons more..<br />
but when you have to agree with a professor and others about a political truth to earn a degree, and more&#8230; why bother&#8230; not like america needs men any more&#8230; not like we are ever going to have a conflict&#8230; or need to risk inventing&#8230; do note that a lot of the numbers on benefits are juggled, its not only what they compute, its how they compute it, and they throw out a lot of data if its &#8216;inconvenient&#8217;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been beating this drum for decades&#8230; its not bad enough to warrant much discussion over that period&#8230; look how bad the schools had to get before Neo did a thread on it, but still, the people who warned early are unheard for either their divulging things, or for how they changed</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve given up now&#8230;<br />
there is no chance for anything..<br />
all the funding for those without connections go to the protected classes<br />
(another drum i mentioned only to be called names)</p>
<p>the SBA wont help&#8230; its only for women &#8211; 8A program eats all funds &#8211; and gives very asymmetric help, which means if your not one of them, your not able to get any help<br />
This was explained to me by a banker&#8230;  They are clever about the language they use, and so, good people do not really know what goes on there. Certainly Neo didnt when i tried to explain it over 10 years ago. </p>
<blockquote><p>
The 8(a) Mentor-Protégé program is designed to encourage mentor businesses to provide development assistance to protégé businesses.<br />
A protégé can get valuable assistance from a mentor in several areas, including:<br />
    Technical and/or management assistance<br />
    Financing in the form of equity investments and/or loans<br />
    Trade education<br />
    Government contracting</p>
<p>Businesses that have an SBA-approved mentor-protégé agreement can form a joint venture, and compete together for contracts that have been set aside for small businesses</p>
<p>The 7(j) program provides assistance such as training, executive education, and one-on-one consulting in a wide range of business activities, including marketing, accounting, opportunity development and capture, contract management, compliance, and financial analysis. [you have to be an 8A to get 7J]</p>
<p>Lots more stuff if you dig&#8230; like free or discounted office equipment, abatements, a separate database for contract bidding&#8230; etc.
</p></blockquote>
<p><b>None of the above is available if your not a protected class designated as disadvantaged</b></p>
<p>Why would anyone risk any others?  this is why women businesses are growing, not because they are out-competing, but because they have super advantages that keep on coming&#8230; </p>
<p>As i said, i have given up now&#8230;<br />
there is no way to compete and the men know it<br />
they know their tax dollars go to fund their negative outcome</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2020 16:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right now i am waiting to be homeless as my existence ruins diversity and as we all know, people like me are born women hating nazis... too bad i married my wife, and she has to suffer for being with me... 

Incidence of male–female suicide ratio by WHO region
Europe (13%) 	4.0 : 1
Americas (13.5%) 	3.6 : 1

American Foundation for Suicide Prevention
https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/
&lt;b&gt;White males accounted for 69.67% of suicide deaths in 2017.&lt;/b&gt;
The rate of suicide is highest in middle-age white men in particular.
On average, there are 129 suicides per day.

Do remember my Ex took my son and two other children with her to rob a bank
I never got to see him grow up, as a man i had no rights, even after that
Only got to play catch with him once.. 
Never taught him anything

My wife and i now have no children, we could not afford it given the economic hit in my past from the system favoring a person who faked their murder, and ended up in federal prison... I on the other hand have a clean record, lifetime of hard work, etc.. 

personally, i cant wait till its over as there is nothing left to wait for but more pain
and its hard to watch my wife suffer because of it, despite her being from indonesia

A wonderful woman that deserved better, but we didn&#039;t believe what most don&#039;t 

[I wanted to be a researcher scientist, but alas, no money for white males (despite what people think)... out of Bronx science, there was nothing, as the cash went to make the numbers unequal (they were equal when i was born according to the governments tables)... sister has many degrees, children, and a great home...  i on the other hand, have no real family, my family believes that everything went to men, so i must be a screw up, and so, i have no family]


In the UK
In 2018, 4,903 men took their own lives, 12pc more than in 2017 and an average of 13 per day. In comparison, 1,604 women died by suicide in the same time frame: about four per day. 

Men are 14pc more likely to get cancer than women and they&#039;re 37pc more likely to die from the disease. 

https://www.cancer.org/research/currently-funded-cancer-research/grants-by-cancer-type.html
Breast Cancer - $93,777,500 - 162 Grants
The largest of them, Dallas-based Susan G. Komen for the Cure, grossed $420 million last year alone. All told, an estimated $6 billion is raised every year in the name of breast cancer.

Prostate Cancer - 35,599,002 - 48 Grants
Among the big cancers, breast cancer receives the most funding per new case, $2,596 — and by far the most money relative to each death, $13,452. &lt;b&gt;Notably, prostate cancer, &lt;i&gt;the most common cancer&lt;/i&gt;, receives the least funding per new case&lt;/b&gt; at just $1,318. But on a per-death basis it ranks second

&lt;b&gt;Why Men Are the New College Minority&lt;/b&gt;
Males are enrolling in higher education at alarmingly low rates, and some colleges are working hard to reverse the trend.  
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/ 

The Disappearing College Male 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2015/05/04/the-disappearing-college-male/ 


Men saying “no thanks” to college
The proportion of men on college campuses is dropping
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/04/men-women-college-proportion/

Girls Have Always Been Better at School. Now It Matters More.
The higher-education gender gap has become a major factor in American political and economic life, and it yawns even wider in other rich countries.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-03-06/young-women-widen-the-higher-education-gap

&lt;b&gt;70 percent&lt;/b&gt;
The homeless population is largely male. Among individual adults, 70 percent are men.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now i am waiting to be homeless as my existence ruins diversity and as we all know, people like me are born women hating nazis&#8230; too bad i married my wife, and she has to suffer for being with me&#8230; </p>
<p>Incidence of male–female suicide ratio by WHO region<br />
Europe (13%) 	4.0 : 1<br />
Americas (13.5%) 	3.6 : 1</p>
<p>American Foundation for Suicide Prevention<br />
<a href="https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/</a><br />
<b>White males accounted for 69.67% of suicide deaths in 2017.</b><br />
The rate of suicide is highest in middle-age white men in particular.<br />
On average, there are 129 suicides per day.</p>
<p>Do remember my Ex took my son and two other children with her to rob a bank<br />
I never got to see him grow up, as a man i had no rights, even after that<br />
Only got to play catch with him once..<br />
Never taught him anything</p>
<p>My wife and i now have no children, we could not afford it given the economic hit in my past from the system favoring a person who faked their murder, and ended up in federal prison&#8230; I on the other hand have a clean record, lifetime of hard work, etc.. </p>
<p>personally, i cant wait till its over as there is nothing left to wait for but more pain<br />
and its hard to watch my wife suffer because of it, despite her being from indonesia</p>
<p>A wonderful woman that deserved better, but we didn&#8217;t believe what most don&#8217;t </p>
<p>[I wanted to be a researcher scientist, but alas, no money for white males (despite what people think)&#8230; out of Bronx science, there was nothing, as the cash went to make the numbers unequal (they were equal when i was born according to the governments tables)&#8230; sister has many degrees, children, and a great home&#8230;  i on the other hand, have no real family, my family believes that everything went to men, so i must be a screw up, and so, i have no family]</p>
<p>In the UK<br />
In 2018, 4,903 men took their own lives, 12pc more than in 2017 and an average of 13 per day. In comparison, 1,604 women died by suicide in the same time frame: about four per day. </p>
<p>Men are 14pc more likely to get cancer than women and they&#8217;re 37pc more likely to die from the disease. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.cancer.org/research/currently-funded-cancer-research/grants-by-cancer-type.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cancer.org/research/currently-funded-cancer-research/grants-by-cancer-type.html</a><br />
Breast Cancer &#8211; $93,777,500 &#8211; 162 Grants<br />
The largest of them, Dallas-based Susan G. Komen for the Cure, grossed $420 million last year alone. All told, an estimated $6 billion is raised every year in the name of breast cancer.</p>
<p>Prostate Cancer &#8211; 35,599,002 &#8211; 48 Grants<br />
Among the big cancers, breast cancer receives the most funding per new case, $2,596 — and by far the most money relative to each death, $13,452. <b>Notably, prostate cancer, <i>the most common cancer</i>, receives the least funding per new case</b> at just $1,318. But on a per-death basis it ranks second</p>
<p><b>Why Men Are the New College Minority</b><br />
Males are enrolling in higher education at alarmingly low rates, and some colleges are working hard to reverse the trend.<br />
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/</a> </p>
<p>The Disappearing College Male<br />
<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2015/05/04/the-disappearing-college-male/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2015/05/04/the-disappearing-college-male/</a> </p>
<p>Men saying “no thanks” to college<br />
The proportion of men on college campuses is dropping<br />
<a href="https://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/04/men-women-college-proportion/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/04/men-women-college-proportion/</a></p>
<p>Girls Have Always Been Better at School. Now It Matters More.<br />
The higher-education gender gap has become a major factor in American political and economic life, and it yawns even wider in other rich countries.<br />
<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-03-06/young-women-widen-the-higher-education-gap" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-03-06/young-women-widen-the-higher-education-gap</a></p>
<p><b>70 percent</b><br />
The homeless population is largely male. Among individual adults, 70 percent are men.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Religious/moral philosophy for people capable of self-moderation.  Competing interests to mitigate progress of others running amuck.

Capitalism, or, more correctly, private capital and market economies, is a dynamic, optimal system and organization to determine price and distribution of finitely available, accessible resources.

Liberalism is divergent.  Libertarianism is emergent.  Progressivism is monotonic.  Conservativism is moderating.  #PrinciplesMatter

Men and women are equal in rights and complementary in Nature and nature.  We&#039;re not children anymore.  Reconcile.

Individual dignity.  Intrinsic value.  Inordinate worth.  Natural imperatives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious/moral philosophy for people capable of self-moderation.  Competing interests to mitigate progress of others running amuck.</p>
<p>Capitalism, or, more correctly, private capital and market economies, is a dynamic, optimal system and organization to determine price and distribution of finitely available, accessible resources.</p>
<p>Liberalism is divergent.  Libertarianism is emergent.  Progressivism is monotonic.  Conservativism is moderating.  #PrinciplesMatter</p>
<p>Men and women are equal in rights and complementary in Nature and nature.  We&#8217;re not children anymore.  Reconcile.</p>
<p>Individual dignity.  Intrinsic value.  Inordinate worth.  Natural imperatives.</p>
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		By: NateWhilk		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;I was taken around and shown things as a &quot;useful idiot&quot; […] that’s what my role was […] I can’t understand why I was so gullible.&#039;

A brief anecdote by Lessing about her 1952 trip to the USSR. BBC &quot;Useful Idiots&quot; at about 2:30. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p008vd41

This and other related quotes, including a few about political correctness, at her wikiquote page.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I was taken around and shown things as a &#8220;useful idiot&#8221; […] that’s what my role was […] I can’t understand why I was so gullible.&#8217;</p>
<p>A brief anecdote by Lessing about her 1952 trip to the USSR. BBC &#8220;Useful Idiots&#8221; at about 2:30. <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p008vd41" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p008vd41</a></p>
<p>This and other related quotes, including a few about political correctness, at her wikiquote page.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reading suggestions.]]></description>
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		By: jkl		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[And now it feeds terrorism [I don’t think shes talking about Islamic terrorism here]. IRA, ETA, Brigate Rosse, Red  Army]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now it feeds terrorism [I don’t think shes talking about Islamic terrorism here]. IRA, ETA, Brigate Rosse, Red  Army</p>
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		By: Ralph Kinney Bennett		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[“An unsustainable ideology can only continue through coercion.”  That is a keeper.  Thank you Geoffrey.  Wide wisdom captured in a tiny cage of words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“An unsustainable ideology can only continue through coercion.”  That is a keeper.  Thank you Geoffrey.  Wide wisdom captured in a tiny cage of words.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;sdferr on February 1, 2020 at 4:36 pm said:	

Not to be flip, but it’s because the whole damned project was to make women manly, and this sort of domination thing is what men do quite naturally.&lt;/em&gt;
Not entirely. But the movement has &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; been not about equality, but about &lt;strong&gt;power&lt;/strong&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>sdferr on February 1, 2020 at 4:36 pm said:	</p>
<p>Not to be flip, but it’s because the whole damned project was to make women manly, and this sort of domination thing is what men do quite naturally.</em><br />
Not entirely. But the movement has <em>always</em> been not about equality, but about <strong>power</strong>.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[“At base, they are at war with God and his creation.” Spot on.

Denial of God manifests as nihilism or Utopianism, but strangely they are the two sides of the same coin “Listen here God, I don’t need you!” You can hear the disillusionment with the world and it’s creator.

And from popular culture:
Tyler Durden: Shut up! Our fathers were our models for God. If our fathers bailed, what does that tell you about God?
Narrator: No, no, I... don&#039;t...
Tyler Durden: Listen to me! You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you. This is not the worst thing that can happen.
Narrator: It isn&#039;t?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“At base, they are at war with God and his creation.” Spot on.</p>
<p>Denial of God manifests as nihilism or Utopianism, but strangely they are the two sides of the same coin “Listen here God, I don’t need you!” You can hear the disillusionment with the world and it’s creator.</p>
<p>And from popular culture:<br />
Tyler Durden: Shut up! Our fathers were our models for God. If our fathers bailed, what does that tell you about God?<br />
Narrator: No, no, I&#8230; don&#8217;t&#8230;<br />
Tyler Durden: Listen to me! You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you. This is not the worst thing that can happen.<br />
Narrator: It isn&#8217;t?</p>
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