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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it time for a headline in the Babylon Bee, &quot;Canada, Ukraine declare war on Iran?&quot;

Actually, now that I think about it. . .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it time for a headline in the Babylon Bee, &#8220;Canada, Ukraine declare war on Iran?&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, now that I think about it. . .</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann on January 14, 2020 at 6:12 pm said:
Re blame — The latest:

Iran says it has arrested the person who filmed the footage showing a Ukrainian passenger plane being shot down by a missile. It is believed the person being detained will face charges related to national security.
* * *
It was all the fault of another video guy -- something has to be done about those fiends!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann on January 14, 2020 at 6:12 pm said:<br />
Re blame — The latest:</p>
<p>Iran says it has arrested the person who filmed the footage showing a Ukrainian passenger plane being shot down by a missile. It is believed the person being detained will face charges related to national security.<br />
* * *<br />
It was all the fault of another video guy &#8212; something has to be done about those fiends!</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2020 23:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bottom line, what is going on inside Iran is unknownable at the present time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line, what is going on inside Iran is unknownable at the present time.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2020 23:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re blame -- The &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51114945&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; latest&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;blockquote&gt;Iran says it has arrested the person who filmed the footage showing a Ukrainian passenger plane being shot down by a missile. It is believed the person being detained will face charges related to national security. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re blame &#8212; The <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51114945" rel="nofollow"> latest</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>Iran says it has arrested the person who filmed the footage showing a Ukrainian passenger plane being shot down by a missile. It is believed the person being detained will face charges related to national security. </p></blockquote>
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		By: FB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a HREF=&quot;https://edition.cnn.com/world?refresh=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is this Iran&#039;s &#039;Chernobyl&#039; moment?&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="https://edition.cnn.com/world?refresh=1" rel="nofollow">Is this Iran&#8217;s &#8216;Chernobyl&#8217; moment?</a></p>
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		By: FB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely on January 14, 2020 at 4:42 pm said:

&lt;i&gt;This is what makes me think the blame is falling on the IRGC&lt;/i&gt;
Very precise conclusion.

&lt;blockquote&gt;is a branch of the Iranian Armed Forces, founded after the Iranian Revolution on 22 April 1979[5] by order of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.[6] Whereas the Iranian Army defends Iranian borders and maintains internal order, according to the Iranian constitution, the Revolutionary Guard (pasdaran) is intended to protect the country&#039;s Islamic republic political system.[7] The Revolutionary Guards state that their role in protecting the Islamic system is preventing foreign interference as well as coups by the military or &quot;deviant movements&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Revolutionary Guards have roughly 125,000 military personnel including ground, aerospace and naval forces. Its naval forces are now the primary forces tasked with operational control of the Persian Gulf.[9] It also controls the paramilitary Basij militia which has about 90,000 active personnel.[10][11] Its media arm is Sepah News.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Since its origin as an ideologically driven militia, the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution has taken a greater role in nearly every aspect of Iranian society. Its expanded social, political, military and economic role&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan Lovely on January 14, 2020 at 4:42 pm said:</p>
<p><i>This is what makes me think the blame is falling on the IRGC</i><br />
Very precise conclusion.</p>
<blockquote><p>is a branch of the Iranian Armed Forces, founded after the Iranian Revolution on 22 April 1979[5] by order of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.[6] Whereas the Iranian Army defends Iranian borders and maintains internal order, according to the Iranian constitution, the Revolutionary Guard (pasdaran) is intended to protect the country&#8217;s Islamic republic political system.[7] The Revolutionary Guards state that their role in protecting the Islamic system is preventing foreign interference as well as coups by the military or &#8220;deviant movements&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The Revolutionary Guards have roughly 125,000 military personnel including ground, aerospace and naval forces. Its naval forces are now the primary forces tasked with operational control of the Persian Gulf.[9] It also controls the paramilitary Basij militia which has about 90,000 active personnel.[10][11] Its media arm is Sepah News.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Since its origin as an ideologically driven militia, the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution has taken a greater role in nearly every aspect of Iranian society. Its expanded social, political, military and economic role</p></blockquote>
<p><i>Wikipedia</i></p>
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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Iranian armed forces admitting their mistake is a good first step&lt;/i&gt;

When they say &quot;armed forces&quot; and when you say &quot;the military&quot; do you mean the IRGC or the regular army? Because it strikes me that they&#039;re analogous to the Waffen SS and the Wehrmacht, with I&#039;m sure a similar set of rivalries and grudges.

&lt;i&gt;The commander of the Revolutionary Guards’ Aerospace Force said on Saturday that he had informed “officials”&lt;/i&gt;

This is what makes me think the blame is falling on the IRGC, and therefore what we&#039;re seeing here is a power play by the civilian authorities (the mullahs) and maybe the regular military. If so, was the IRGC getting too big for its britches and was the death of &lt;strike&gt;Himmler&lt;/strike&gt; Suleimani the moment of institutional weakness that enabled the move?

I think the real turning point is not if the IRGC fails to turn its guns against the people, but if the army turns its guns against the IRGC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iranian armed forces admitting their mistake is a good first step</i></p>
<p>When they say &#8220;armed forces&#8221; and when you say &#8220;the military&#8221; do you mean the IRGC or the regular army? Because it strikes me that they&#8217;re analogous to the Waffen SS and the Wehrmacht, with I&#8217;m sure a similar set of rivalries and grudges.</p>
<p><i>The commander of the Revolutionary Guards’ Aerospace Force said on Saturday that he had informed “officials”</i></p>
<p>This is what makes me think the blame is falling on the IRGC, and therefore what we&#8217;re seeing here is a power play by the civilian authorities (the mullahs) and maybe the regular military. If so, was the IRGC getting too big for its britches and was the death of <strike>Himmler</strike> Suleimani the moment of institutional weakness that enabled the move?</p>
<p>I think the real turning point is not if the IRGC fails to turn its guns against the people, but if the army turns its guns against the IRGC.</p>
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		By: FB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo
Finally, I can see you start pointing to the big miss of the Iranian regime ugly face with its tool &lt;i&gt;&quot;The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

People/countries and regional neighbours are suffering much form 1979 The Islamic Revolution till now. 

After 2003 Iran had a freehand in the region in fact US invasion of Iraq open big doors for the lunatic regime to benefits from US invasion more than any regional countries in the ME.

Iran regime left loss so long that the lunatics think that they immune from punishment.

Sadly, Russia and China support the regime to degree that the regime pleased that have the support of the international community. Recent &lt;a HREF=&quot;https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/27/asia/china-russia-iran-military-drills-intl-hnk/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;China, Russia and Iran hold joint naval drills in Gulf &lt;/a&gt; as an example.

Here, may I pick your attention for the Iranian regime for the last 16 years in Iraq  they replicate their tools inside Iraq exactly like their tool &quot;The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)&quot; but with different name and factions  
 

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;https://ctc.usma.edu/beyond-soleimani-implications-irans-proxy-network-iraq-syria/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Regional Implications: Iraq&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In many ways, Iraq is critical for Iran’s strategy in the region, serving as a gateway into Syria and a physical buffer against Saudi Arabia. Iran has long-backed proxies in Iraq, including the Badr Corps and the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI),27 whose progeny continue to collaborate with Iran to this day. Since the U.S. invasion in 2003, Iran has strategically backed Iraqi politicians and proxies to protect itself against a hostile Iraqi government and put pressure on U.S. troops in the country.28 Presently, Iran directly backs a contingent of the most prolific militias in the Hashd al-Shaabi, or Popular Mobilization Forces, including Kata’ib Hezbollah, Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq, and Badr Organization, among others.29 For example, the IRGC-QF provided a broad portfolio of support to Harakat al-Nujaba from 2013-2019, including training, weapons, and funding.30 During this time frame, Iranian officials (overwhelmingly IRGC personnel) met with Harakat al-Nujaba roughly 30 times. Soleimani attended about five of these meetings, highlighting the earlier point about his close relationships with Iranian proxies.h&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let see this report about what Iranians regime missiles have done to Al-Assad Military base inside Iraq and &lt;a HREF=&quot;https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-news-01-14-2020/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The latest on the US-Iran crisis&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo<br />
Finally, I can see you start pointing to the big miss of the Iranian regime ugly face with its tool <i>&#8220;The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>People/countries and regional neighbours are suffering much form 1979 The Islamic Revolution till now. </p>
<p>After 2003 Iran had a freehand in the region in fact US invasion of Iraq open big doors for the lunatic regime to benefits from US invasion more than any regional countries in the ME.</p>
<p>Iran regime left loss so long that the lunatics think that they immune from punishment.</p>
<p>Sadly, Russia and China support the regime to degree that the regime pleased that have the support of the international community. Recent <a HREF="https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/27/asia/china-russia-iran-military-drills-intl-hnk/index.html" rel="nofollow">China, Russia and Iran hold joint naval drills in Gulf </a> as an example.</p>
<p>Here, may I pick your attention for the Iranian regime for the last 16 years in Iraq  they replicate their tools inside Iraq exactly like their tool &#8220;The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)&#8221; but with different name and factions  </p>
<p><i><b><a HREF="https://ctc.usma.edu/beyond-soleimani-implications-irans-proxy-network-iraq-syria/" rel="nofollow">Regional Implications: Iraq</a></b></i></p>
<blockquote><p>In many ways, Iraq is critical for Iran’s strategy in the region, serving as a gateway into Syria and a physical buffer against Saudi Arabia. Iran has long-backed proxies in Iraq, including the Badr Corps and the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI),27 whose progeny continue to collaborate with Iran to this day. Since the U.S. invasion in 2003, Iran has strategically backed Iraqi politicians and proxies to protect itself against a hostile Iraqi government and put pressure on U.S. troops in the country.28 Presently, Iran directly backs a contingent of the most prolific militias in the Hashd al-Shaabi, or Popular Mobilization Forces, including Kata’ib Hezbollah, Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq, and Badr Organization, among others.29 For example, the IRGC-QF provided a broad portfolio of support to Harakat al-Nujaba from 2013-2019, including training, weapons, and funding.30 During this time frame, Iranian officials (overwhelmingly IRGC personnel) met with Harakat al-Nujaba roughly 30 times. Soleimani attended about five of these meetings, highlighting the earlier point about his close relationships with Iranian proxies.h</p></blockquote>
<p>Let see this report about what Iranians regime missiles have done to Al-Assad Military base inside Iraq and <a HREF="https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-news-01-14-2020/index.html" rel="nofollow">The latest on the US-Iran crisis</a></p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the differences between Donald Trump and the U.S. political establishment is that Trump understands the U.S. has the biggest &quot;unit&quot; on the planet and he isn&#039;t afraid to swing it around.  He&#039;s not obsessed with maintaining cordial relations or diplomatic niceties and is willing to apply blunt, naked pressure in situations where our foreign policy elites are to afraid of stepping on anyone&#039;s toes.

Does this approach carry risks?  Yep, and we might see the downside to it in a second Trump term.  The downside to speaking softly and NEVER carrying a big stick, however, is to allow horrible oppression and injustice to continue to hold sway over tens of millions of innocent people.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the differences between Donald Trump and the U.S. political establishment is that Trump understands the U.S. has the biggest &#8220;unit&#8221; on the planet and he isn&#8217;t afraid to swing it around.  He&#8217;s not obsessed with maintaining cordial relations or diplomatic niceties and is willing to apply blunt, naked pressure in situations where our foreign policy elites are to afraid of stepping on anyone&#8217;s toes.</p>
<p>Does this approach carry risks?  Yep, and we might see the downside to it in a second Trump term.  The downside to speaking softly and NEVER carrying a big stick, however, is to allow horrible oppression and injustice to continue to hold sway over tens of millions of innocent people.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just want to note that a responsible government that was striking an enemy with ballistic missiles would have closed the airspace.  While the military enforces violation in those cases, it is the civilian authority that clues airlines that they ought not to be flying.  I&#039;m pretty sure the reasonable Persian mind can figure that out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to note that a responsible government that was striking an enemy with ballistic missiles would have closed the airspace.  While the military enforces violation in those cases, it is the civilian authority that clues airlines that they ought not to be flying.  I&#8217;m pretty sure the reasonable Persian mind can figure that out.</p>
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