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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;My original interpretation &lt;/i&gt;

The voices in your head are just that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My original interpretation </i></p>
<p>The voices in your head are just that.</p>
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		By: Ted Clayton		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/01/10/royal-ennui-harry-and-meghan-want-out-sort-of/#comment-2476367</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Clayton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 22:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh yeah, there is now a mayor inconsistency in how Harry has spun his conflicting proposals.

At first, in the earlier presentation, he was going to split time between America and England, using his Rank to organize &#038; lead projects here that would include earning money.  Which yes is ok, or certainly can be ... if the specifics were well-chosen, And Ran Past The Palace, first.

Some of his plan sounded pretty vague, but I figured, &#039;Well, he had to have gotten this lined out with the Crown&#039;.  But then comes pow-wow day, and it turns out he had nothing of the sort arranged.

Just like when in military uniform, or in the employee of a corporation ... getting Ideas is Good ... just make sure to run them up the Chain of Command, before putting anybody on the spot.  Indeed, the Queen calls the &#039;family&#039; a Corporation.

It&#039;s impossible that Harry did not know his money-making ideas would breach acceptable uses of formal Titles.  There can be such uses, and he is qualified to judge.  Others indeed are engaged in remunerative activities, with their Colors &#038; CoA discretely on display.  The devil is in the details.

My original interpretation was that Harry (with Meghan) is setting himself up to assume an undercover role (related to Commonwealth policy, in which the USA is discretely but importantly involved (see eg Diego Garcia)).  Which would give the Crown plausible deniability if the venture sours.  Buckingham can then work both sides of the Brexit-MAGA vs Establishment-EU divide ... and is set up to be on the winning team, whichever side proves victorious.  Plus, Meghan cannot be President, and Duchess

They don&#039;t call it Palace Intrigue for nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, there is now a mayor inconsistency in how Harry has spun his conflicting proposals.</p>
<p>At first, in the earlier presentation, he was going to split time between America and England, using his Rank to organize &amp; lead projects here that would include earning money.  Which yes is ok, or certainly can be &#8230; if the specifics were well-chosen, And Ran Past The Palace, first.</p>
<p>Some of his plan sounded pretty vague, but I figured, &#8216;Well, he had to have gotten this lined out with the Crown&#8217;.  But then comes pow-wow day, and it turns out he had nothing of the sort arranged.</p>
<p>Just like when in military uniform, or in the employee of a corporation &#8230; getting Ideas is Good &#8230; just make sure to run them up the Chain of Command, before putting anybody on the spot.  Indeed, the Queen calls the &#8216;family&#8217; a Corporation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible that Harry did not know his money-making ideas would breach acceptable uses of formal Titles.  There can be such uses, and he is qualified to judge.  Others indeed are engaged in remunerative activities, with their Colors &amp; CoA discretely on display.  The devil is in the details.</p>
<p>My original interpretation was that Harry (with Meghan) is setting himself up to assume an undercover role (related to Commonwealth policy, in which the USA is discretely but importantly involved (see eg Diego Garcia)).  Which would give the Crown plausible deniability if the venture sours.  Buckingham can then work both sides of the Brexit-MAGA vs Establishment-EU divide &#8230; and is set up to be on the winning team, whichever side proves victorious.  Plus, Meghan cannot be President, and Duchess</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t call it Palace Intrigue for nothing.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 19:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Yeah … no. Harry’s moves &#038; words now clearly lack credibility.&lt;/i&gt;

What are you talking about?  

The understanding is that he and MM re-imburse the Crown Estate for the costs of renovating Frogmore Cottage (seems harsh unless the Cottage was in satisfactory shape for use by other parties before it was renovated), they&#039;ll stop making use of certain titles - HRH Princ(ess) Harry of Wales (seems harsh as their cousins are permitted to use such titles while living a life apart from the f/t royal family), and they&#039;re off the Civil List / Sovereign Grant.  They also have to pay rent to the Crown Estate for the use of Frogmore Cottage; such residences used to be had at the &#039;grace-and-favour&#039; of the Queen, but the crypto-republicans in Parliament and in the media made such a stink about it that the Queen&#039;s relatives and retainers now pay rent; not clear if they had the option to eschew Crown Estate properties and rent their personal pied a terre in Britain.  They&#039;ll also live in North America much of the time. 


&lt;i&gt;So what happened to Harry? &lt;/i&gt;

Nothing we know about.  Everything which follows this rhetorical question is your imagination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yeah … no. Harry’s moves &amp; words now clearly lack credibility.</i></p>
<p>What are you talking about?  </p>
<p>The understanding is that he and MM re-imburse the Crown Estate for the costs of renovating Frogmore Cottage (seems harsh unless the Cottage was in satisfactory shape for use by other parties before it was renovated), they&#8217;ll stop making use of certain titles &#8211; HRH Princ(ess) Harry of Wales (seems harsh as their cousins are permitted to use such titles while living a life apart from the f/t royal family), and they&#8217;re off the Civil List / Sovereign Grant.  They also have to pay rent to the Crown Estate for the use of Frogmore Cottage; such residences used to be had at the &#8216;grace-and-favour&#8217; of the Queen, but the crypto-republicans in Parliament and in the media made such a stink about it that the Queen&#8217;s relatives and retainers now pay rent; not clear if they had the option to eschew Crown Estate properties and rent their personal pied a terre in Britain.  They&#8217;ll also live in North America much of the time. </p>
<p><i>So what happened to Harry? </i></p>
<p>Nothing we know about.  Everything which follows this rhetorical question is your imagination.</p>
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		By: Ted Clayton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 19:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

Yeah ... no.  Harry&#039;s moves &#038; words now clearly lack credibility.

Harry knew stone-cold in the earlier iterations, that he was not going to hang out any business shingle with any Royal Title carved into it.

He could split his time between Family stuff, and innovative private pursuits, sure ... with suitable caveats.

That makes this drama a &quot;set up&quot;.  He pretended to be talking about one kind of new arrangement, then asked for terms in the big pow-wow that would never be forthcoming (so &#039;they&#039; could look like the hard-noses) ... on which there was never the shadow of a doubt. 

So now he&#039;s Out.  For Meghan?  In antipathy for the Tabloids?  His mom died and that was bad, the press was bad ... but Diana was scarcely free of taint, or provocation, herself.  He knows at least a functional version of the truth about is mom.  Plus, his buddies died in Afghanistan etc;  Life is not a Cost-Plus contract, and he has better data in hand on reality, than the average citizen.  And Meghan&#039;s own family is a heavy contributor to the media-mess.

So what happened to Harry? 

1.)  Is Meghan really his type?  Harry has History with females, and we see strong recurring themes in his choices.  Meghan is not a close match.

2.)  He has a keen sense of Duty ... but relatively weak self-awareness.  That&#039;s how he got halfway through a military career, before discovering his incompatibilities.

3.)  He is a globalist, of the Progressive persuasion.  He was more disturbed by Brexit, Trump and MAGA than eg William.  This is a fraught transition for the Royals, and the hazards for their standing are real.

It&#039;s currently worded as a one-year deal.  That&#039;s easily interpreted as &#039;depending&#039; on the 2020 Elections.  Maybe Meghan wants to get serious in US politics.  Her Bio includes remarks about some day maybe being President.  Or something ... paired up with Obama?   And Canadian leadership? 

Without it being real clear what the actual game, plan or outcome is?  Check, check, check.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>Yeah &#8230; no.  Harry&#8217;s moves &amp; words now clearly lack credibility.</p>
<p>Harry knew stone-cold in the earlier iterations, that he was not going to hang out any business shingle with any Royal Title carved into it.</p>
<p>He could split his time between Family stuff, and innovative private pursuits, sure &#8230; with suitable caveats.</p>
<p>That makes this drama a &#8220;set up&#8221;.  He pretended to be talking about one kind of new arrangement, then asked for terms in the big pow-wow that would never be forthcoming (so &#8216;they&#8217; could look like the hard-noses) &#8230; on which there was never the shadow of a doubt. </p>
<p>So now he&#8217;s Out.  For Meghan?  In antipathy for the Tabloids?  His mom died and that was bad, the press was bad &#8230; but Diana was scarcely free of taint, or provocation, herself.  He knows at least a functional version of the truth about is mom.  Plus, his buddies died in Afghanistan etc;  Life is not a Cost-Plus contract, and he has better data in hand on reality, than the average citizen.  And Meghan&#8217;s own family is a heavy contributor to the media-mess.</p>
<p>So what happened to Harry? </p>
<p>1.)  Is Meghan really his type?  Harry has History with females, and we see strong recurring themes in his choices.  Meghan is not a close match.</p>
<p>2.)  He has a keen sense of Duty &#8230; but relatively weak self-awareness.  That&#8217;s how he got halfway through a military career, before discovering his incompatibilities.</p>
<p>3.)  He is a globalist, of the Progressive persuasion.  He was more disturbed by Brexit, Trump and MAGA than eg William.  This is a fraught transition for the Royals, and the hazards for their standing are real.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s currently worded as a one-year deal.  That&#8217;s easily interpreted as &#8216;depending&#8217; on the 2020 Elections.  Maybe Meghan wants to get serious in US politics.  Her Bio includes remarks about some day maybe being President.  Or something &#8230; paired up with Obama?   And Canadian leadership? </p>
<p>Without it being real clear what the actual game, plan or outcome is?  Check, check, check.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 23:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Alas, Harry seems defenseless in the face of those same forces of nature that knocked his great-grand-uncle David practically senseless (though there are those who argue that he hadn’t all that much sense to lose in the first place).&lt;/i&gt;

Come again?  &#039;David&#039; (Edward Viii) had no trouble attracting women.  He couldn&#039;t be bothered to build a domestic life with any of those he did attract.  Then he finds just the ticket: barren, currently married, and with a previous husband to boot.  There is just no accounting for taste, at least some people&#039;s taste.  (Two of his brothers reached into the Scottish peerage for a wife; the third, who was a terrible roue, married a 2d cousin who hadn&#039;t been married before and gave him three children).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Alas, Harry seems defenseless in the face of those same forces of nature that knocked his great-grand-uncle David practically senseless (though there are those who argue that he hadn’t all that much sense to lose in the first place).</i></p>
<p>Come again?  &#8216;David&#8217; (Edward Viii) had no trouble attracting women.  He couldn&#8217;t be bothered to build a domestic life with any of those he did attract.  Then he finds just the ticket: barren, currently married, and with a previous husband to boot.  There is just no accounting for taste, at least some people&#8217;s taste.  (Two of his brothers reached into the Scottish peerage for a wife; the third, who was a terrible roue, married a 2d cousin who hadn&#8217;t been married before and gave him three children).</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 23:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re all reading too much into this.  It&#039;s like a Rorschach inkblot for the lot of you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re all reading too much into this.  It&#8217;s like a Rorschach inkblot for the lot of you.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 23:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You may be right, Snow on Pine.  The other possibility is that Harry, always the royal wild child, actually wanted out of all the pomp and circumstance and to have an independent life.  Whether Meghan is the right partner for this, and whether the marriage will endure, remains to be seen.  Being in favor of fidelity in marriage, I hope so.  But I think this could all have been handled better on Harry&#039;s part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be right, Snow on Pine.  The other possibility is that Harry, always the royal wild child, actually wanted out of all the pomp and circumstance and to have an independent life.  Whether Meghan is the right partner for this, and whether the marriage will endure, remains to be seen.  Being in favor of fidelity in marriage, I hope so.  But I think this could all have been handled better on Harry&#8217;s part.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 22:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, as I predicted above:

&quot;Markel’s marriage into the British royal family looks like it is shaping up to be a disruptive, a pretty complete disaster, one in which Markle seems to be playing the role of the frag grenade tossed into the room, as the Royal family was going about the tradition-bound business of being the Royal family.&quot;

My next prediction is that the luckless Harry--shorn of the Royal glamour that likely initially attracted Markle--(who discovered that being a &quot;Royal&quot; carried a lot of attached obligations with it, which she apparently soon wearied of) will fairly soon be dumped by her, and poor Harry will then be forced to crawl back to try to reenter the Royal Family&#039;s good graces.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, as I predicted above:</p>
<p>&#8220;Markel’s marriage into the British royal family looks like it is shaping up to be a disruptive, a pretty complete disaster, one in which Markle seems to be playing the role of the frag grenade tossed into the room, as the Royal family was going about the tradition-bound business of being the Royal family.&#8221;</p>
<p>My next prediction is that the luckless Harry&#8211;shorn of the Royal glamour that likely initially attracted Markle&#8211;(who discovered that being a &#8220;Royal&#8221; carried a lot of attached obligations with it, which she apparently soon wearied of) will fairly soon be dumped by her, and poor Harry will then be forced to crawl back to try to reenter the Royal Family&#8217;s good graces.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of genes, it seems that that whole family emerged from somewhere downwind of Lower Slobovia....

As for the other side, there must be a recessive Windsor gene that somehow comes to the fore every several generations or so, expressing itself less virulently or more so.

Fortunately, ERII has been able---mostly---to channel her mother&#039;s gravitas and grit (legend has it that Shicklgruber referred to the Queen Mother, when she was Royal Consort, as &quot;the most dangerous woman in Europe&quot;); but then Elizabeth was brought up to serve and absorbed the obligations of the Royal family wholly and willingly.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/hitler-s-most-dangerous-woman-gets-warm-97th-birthday-reception-1.94054

Alas, Harry seems defenseless in the face of those same forces of nature that knocked his great-grand-uncle David practically senseless (though there are those who argue that he hadn&#039;t all that much sense to lose in the first place).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBn06A-sdok

Of course, if one is of a romantic bent....

(As for Soros, he is just another example of the tremendous danger that emerges when huge intelligence, and ambition, is wedded to equally huge perversity---a character out of Ian Fleming...or Shakespeare....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of genes, it seems that that whole family emerged from somewhere downwind of Lower Slobovia&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for the other side, there must be a recessive Windsor gene that somehow comes to the fore every several generations or so, expressing itself less virulently or more so.</p>
<p>Fortunately, ERII has been able&#8212;mostly&#8212;to channel her mother&#8217;s gravitas and grit (legend has it that Shicklgruber referred to the Queen Mother, when she was Royal Consort, as &#8220;the most dangerous woman in Europe&#8221;); but then Elizabeth was brought up to serve and absorbed the obligations of the Royal family wholly and willingly.<br />
<a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/news/hitler-s-most-dangerous-woman-gets-warm-97th-birthday-reception-1.94054" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.irishtimes.com/news/hitler-s-most-dangerous-woman-gets-warm-97th-birthday-reception-1.94054</a></p>
<p>Alas, Harry seems defenseless in the face of those same forces of nature that knocked his great-grand-uncle David practically senseless (though there are those who argue that he hadn&#8217;t all that much sense to lose in the first place).<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBn06A-sdok" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBn06A-sdok</a></p>
<p>Of course, if one is of a romantic bent&#8230;.</p>
<p>(As for Soros, he is just another example of the tremendous danger that emerges when huge intelligence, and ambition, is wedded to equally huge perversity&#8212;a character out of Ian Fleming&#8230;or Shakespeare&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Yes, the role of the ages for this drama queen, this prima donna, this not-so-merrye wife of Windsor.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve recently come to the conclusion that George Soros likes to wreck stuff for kicks.  Markle may be of that kidney, but it&#039;s rather uncharitable to make the accusation just yet.  (If you remarked on the conduct of her sister two years ago, you can see that the impulse to wreck stuff for the hell of it is found in that family).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yes, the role of the ages for this drama queen, this prima donna, this not-so-merrye wife of Windsor.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently come to the conclusion that George Soros likes to wreck stuff for kicks.  Markle may be of that kidney, but it&#8217;s rather uncharitable to make the accusation just yet.  (If you remarked on the conduct of her sister two years ago, you can see that the impulse to wreck stuff for the hell of it is found in that family).</p>
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