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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2020 17:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Easy-peasy.  That&#039;s where they send BUFFs when they want to bomb somebody in the Middle or Far East and don&#039;t want to get into an argument with our European &lt;i&gt;allies&lt;/i&gt;(???) about whether we can or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy-peasy.  That&#8217;s where they send BUFFs when they want to bomb somebody in the Middle or Far East and don&#8217;t want to get into an argument with our European <i>allies</i>(???) about whether we can or not.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/01/04/eyes-were-on-suleimani/#comment-2473836</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2020 05:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Saunders on January 6, 2020 at 5:51 pm said:
The next step should be sending a squadron of B-52s to Diego Garcia.
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Clairvoyant, much?
https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-deploys-b52-bombers-indian-ocean]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Saunders on January 6, 2020 at 5:51 pm said:<br />
The next step should be sending a squadron of B-52s to Diego Garcia.<br />
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Clairvoyant, much?<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-deploys-b52-bombers-indian-ocean" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-deploys-b52-bombers-indian-ocean</a></p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/01/04/eyes-were-on-suleimani/#comment-2473783</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 22:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The next step should be sending a squadron of B-52s to Diego Garcia.  Or a squadron of B-2s.  Or both!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next step should be sending a squadron of B-52s to Diego Garcia.  Or a squadron of B-2s.  Or both!</p>
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		By: KyndyllG		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/01/04/eyes-were-on-suleimani/#comment-2473772</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 21:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All of the outrage from the left has mainly come from:

1) It happened without provocation. 
2) OK, there was provocation, but since we&#039;re the bad guys, always, in all occasions, in all times and places, we deserve it and should roll over and repeat, &quot;Please, sir, I want some more,&quot; until the attacks stop.
3) Yeah, admittedly, there was provocation, but when Trump takes any action, now matter how justified it would be if a Democrat did the same thing, it&#039;s always wrong.

Obviously, the response to #1 is: &quot;When someone attacks an embassy, it is a declaration of hostile intent, if not outright war.&quot; The response to #2 is: &quot;When someone attacks an embassy, it is a declaration of hostile intent, if not outright war, no matter how the two parties rate against each other on the victimhood scale.&quot; And yes, the response to #3 is: &quot;When someone attacks an embassy, it is a declaration of hostile intent, if not outright war, even if Trump is the president taking a retaliatory action.&quot;

The area in which to debate is whether the parties killed in the retaliatory strike bear executive responsibility for the embassy attack.

As far as I&#039;m concerned, Iran is a nation that only gets a provisional seat at the table of civilized nations, provisional on the government of Iran behaving like the leadership of a civilized modern nation. When the leadership is observed encouraging &quot;Death to nations we don&#039;t like!&quot; and funding terrorist activity all over the ME and beyond, the rest of the world has a responsibility to put a foot down on it, not indulge it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the outrage from the left has mainly come from:</p>
<p>1) It happened without provocation.<br />
2) OK, there was provocation, but since we&#8217;re the bad guys, always, in all occasions, in all times and places, we deserve it and should roll over and repeat, &#8220;Please, sir, I want some more,&#8221; until the attacks stop.<br />
3) Yeah, admittedly, there was provocation, but when Trump takes any action, now matter how justified it would be if a Democrat did the same thing, it&#8217;s always wrong.</p>
<p>Obviously, the response to #1 is: &#8220;When someone attacks an embassy, it is a declaration of hostile intent, if not outright war.&#8221; The response to #2 is: &#8220;When someone attacks an embassy, it is a declaration of hostile intent, if not outright war, no matter how the two parties rate against each other on the victimhood scale.&#8221; And yes, the response to #3 is: &#8220;When someone attacks an embassy, it is a declaration of hostile intent, if not outright war, even if Trump is the president taking a retaliatory action.&#8221;</p>
<p>The area in which to debate is whether the parties killed in the retaliatory strike bear executive responsibility for the embassy attack.</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, Iran is a nation that only gets a provisional seat at the table of civilized nations, provisional on the government of Iran behaving like the leadership of a civilized modern nation. When the leadership is observed encouraging &#8220;Death to nations we don&#8217;t like!&#8221; and funding terrorist activity all over the ME and beyond, the rest of the world has a responsibility to put a foot down on it, not indulge it.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 21:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[KyndyllG, I saw someone on twitter quoting the Men In Black line I&#039;d been tempted to quote myself these past few days, to the effect Trump has put the US back in a &quot;Don&#039;t start nothing, won&#039;t be nothing&quot; posture. Which, good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KyndyllG, I saw someone on twitter quoting the Men In Black line I&#8217;d been tempted to quote myself these past few days, to the effect Trump has put the US back in a &#8220;Don&#8217;t start nothing, won&#8217;t be nothing&#8221; posture. Which, good.</p>
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		By: KyndyllG		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/01/04/eyes-were-on-suleimani/#comment-2473747</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 18:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve stayed out of this largely because I really don&#039;t have the level of knowledge needed to engage in this topic. But speaking in generalities, I don&#039;t understand how Trump&#039;s response is a problem. He is well within his rights to order the action, it was in immediate response to an attack on our soil (which an embassy is), and the target was an Iranian official in Iraq which either means he is operating without the approval of Iraq in which case the Iraqi government should not care, or he is operating with the approval of Iraq, in which case they lose the right to object to us taking action on Iraqi soil. They would be, by definition, harboring a someone who has attacked the United States. 

Somehow over time, we have allowed our general policy to be, &quot;If you attack us, we&#039;ll grovel on our knees to make you stop being mad enough at us to attack us.&quot; That&#039;s absolutely absurd. We are dealing with an unrepentant dark ages ideology which would conquer the world if it could, and when it had appropriate technology compared to the armies of Europe, it made it all the way into France. There is nothing we can do to make them like us, other than convert or die. Our policy in the ME needs to be, &quot;We will do business with you, but if you attack us in any way, we will smack you, hard.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve stayed out of this largely because I really don&#8217;t have the level of knowledge needed to engage in this topic. But speaking in generalities, I don&#8217;t understand how Trump&#8217;s response is a problem. He is well within his rights to order the action, it was in immediate response to an attack on our soil (which an embassy is), and the target was an Iranian official in Iraq which either means he is operating without the approval of Iraq in which case the Iraqi government should not care, or he is operating with the approval of Iraq, in which case they lose the right to object to us taking action on Iraqi soil. They would be, by definition, harboring a someone who has attacked the United States. </p>
<p>Somehow over time, we have allowed our general policy to be, &#8220;If you attack us, we&#8217;ll grovel on our knees to make you stop being mad enough at us to attack us.&#8221; That&#8217;s absolutely absurd. We are dealing with an unrepentant dark ages ideology which would conquer the world if it could, and when it had appropriate technology compared to the armies of Europe, it made it all the way into France. There is nothing we can do to make them like us, other than convert or die. Our policy in the ME needs to be, &#8220;We will do business with you, but if you attack us in any way, we will smack you, hard.&#8221;</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/01/04/eyes-were-on-suleimani/#comment-2473746</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 18:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heh. More empty gestures from the Queen of handwaving airdoodles, Speaker Mrs. &quot;Tommy&#039;s Girl&quot; Nanny Pelo-si-D&#039;Alesandro. 

But has she heard the Persians are coming for SpongeBob? 
https://mobile.twitter.com/omriceren/status/1214176994885341184

Come now Speaker, where&#039;s your humanity?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. More empty gestures from the Queen of handwaving airdoodles, Speaker Mrs. &#8220;Tommy&#8217;s Girl&#8221; Nanny Pelo-si-D&#8217;Alesandro. </p>
<p>But has she heard the Persians are coming for SpongeBob?<br />
<a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/omriceren/status/1214176994885341184" rel="nofollow ugc">https://mobile.twitter.com/omriceren/status/1214176994885341184</a></p>
<p>Come now Speaker, where&#8217;s your humanity?</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 17:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These are turbulent times and, face it, none of us knows what&#039;s coming down the pike. 

No one.

But we all do our best....

And to make this a better world, to show the true face of America&#039;s &quot;better half&quot;, and to demonstrate just how upset, how utterly distraught, the Islamic Republic&#039;s true friends really are, Nancy Pelosi feels that this is the least she can do for that poor victim (of the beast in Washington), that special human being---brutally cut off before his time---now that he&#039;s no longer among us....

In Memoriam:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-moves-to-limit-trumps-actions-in-iran-with-war-powers-resolution-vote
Indeed, &quot;Requiescat in pace&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are turbulent times and, face it, none of us knows what&#8217;s coming down the pike. </p>
<p>No one.</p>
<p>But we all do our best&#8230;.</p>
<p>And to make this a better world, to show the true face of America&#8217;s &#8220;better half&#8221;, and to demonstrate just how upset, how utterly distraught, the Islamic Republic&#8217;s true friends really are, Nancy Pelosi feels that this is the least she can do for that poor victim (of the beast in Washington), that special human being&#8212;brutally cut off before his time&#8212;now that he&#8217;s no longer among us&#8230;.</p>
<p>In Memoriam:<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-moves-to-limit-trumps-actions-in-iran-with-war-powers-resolution-vote" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-moves-to-limit-trumps-actions-in-iran-with-war-powers-resolution-vote</a><br />
Indeed, &#8220;Requiescat in pace&#8221;</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/01/04/eyes-were-on-suleimani/#comment-2473737</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 17:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my role as &quot;clown #1&quot; I wish to say I take no offense in that. Nor would &quot;fuck bark this&quot; or &quot;bark fuck that&quot; be a problem, I think. 

Nor to what I have recently learned (from a running gag on Tony Badran&#039;s twitter) to view as [verbatim] &quot;lol words&quot; -- which I read or interpret thusly: *lol* [silent pause] &quot;words&quot;. 

This expresses merely my personal view. 

Of course I spent the better part of my working life in another milieu -- on construction job sites --  where the best and widest variety of vulgarity was issued daily: being our delight to give and take. 

Yet I recognize this isn&#039;t that; house rules, and justly, happily so. 

Still, when dumb is dumb, just say so, and so on. Don&#039;t get too fussy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my role as &#8220;clown #1&#8221; I wish to say I take no offense in that. Nor would &#8220;fuck bark this&#8221; or &#8220;bark fuck that&#8221; be a problem, I think. </p>
<p>Nor to what I have recently learned (from a running gag on Tony Badran&#8217;s twitter) to view as [verbatim] &#8220;lol words&#8221; &#8212; which I read or interpret thusly: *lol* [silent pause] &#8220;words&#8221;. </p>
<p>This expresses merely my personal view. </p>
<p>Of course I spent the better part of my working life in another milieu &#8212; on construction job sites &#8212;  where the best and widest variety of vulgarity was issued daily: being our delight to give and take. </p>
<p>Yet I recognize this isn&#8217;t that; house rules, and justly, happily so. </p>
<p>Still, when dumb is dumb, just say so, and so on. Don&#8217;t get too fussy.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 17:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin on January 6, 2020 at 4:17 am said:
“Is that all ya got?”

Actually, something similar crossed my mind….
* * *
;)

CTH posted an old video of Bill Whittle where he channels Donald Trump 4 years before the MAGA election.
The section relevant to this topic is 8:00-12:00, but all of it is worth listening to, if you still want to know why we now have President Trump.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/01/04/considering-everything-watch-this-again-a-president-who-believes-in-his-message/

At 14:30 he predicts the 2016 election, only missed one small point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin on January 6, 2020 at 4:17 am said:<br />
“Is that all ya got?”</p>
<p>Actually, something similar crossed my mind….<br />
* * *<br />
😉</p>
<p>CTH posted an old video of Bill Whittle where he channels Donald Trump 4 years before the MAGA election.<br />
The section relevant to this topic is 8:00-12:00, but all of it is worth listening to, if you still want to know why we now have President Trump.</p>
<p><a href="https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/01/04/considering-everything-watch-this-again-a-president-who-believes-in-his-message/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/01/04/considering-everything-watch-this-again-a-president-who-believes-in-his-message/</a></p>
<p>At 14:30 he predicts the 2016 election, only missed one small point.</p>
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