Comments on: The Times and the truth: the 1619 Project and the teaching of history https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/ A blog about political change, among other things Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:39:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Steve57 https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472723 Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:39:35 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472723 The Navy’s lesson learned system.is NLLIS. Navy Lessons Learned Information System.

As you can see I am passionate about this. Because if is.preventable, and you don’t prevent it,.that is unforgivable.

]]> By: sdferr https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472722 Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:39:13 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472722 Apparently the Democrat party has learned from being defeated by Donald Trump in 2016 that they must see to it that he has a landslide victory in 2020. Only they know why this is their conclusion. We merely witness the phenomenon from afar and scratch our heads in puzzlement.

]]> By: Steve57 https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472721 Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:30:11 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472721 So true Ray. I think we who have served in the armed forces are more aware of the importance of learning history

When the Navy was tasked to go fight in the rivers of Vietnam they dusted off their records of the Seminole wars. If you don’t know your history you will get someone, maybe a lot of.someones, killed. Does anybody want to write those letters about how I got a child, brother or sister, husband or wife killed because I was too stupid or lazy to do.my homework?.

If it didn”t work yesterday, or 50.years ago, or 150 years ago you can bet your 889 it won’t work today. So figure something because if you are getting paid the big bucks to call yourself a leader that is your job.

]]> By: Ray https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472541 Sat, 28 Dec 2019 16:27:19 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472541 “You learn more from you defeats than you do from your victories.”
So true. After WWI the French built the Maginot line to repel the Germans and the Germans built the autobahn so they could drive around it.

]]> By: Steve57 https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472486 Fri, 27 Dec 2019 23:12:21 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472486 You learn more more from you defeats than you do from your victoriesi

]]> By: Kai Akker https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472464 Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:53:08 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472464 Funny to hear that battle of 2,000-plus years ago referred to twice in two days in such separate arenas.

the first major battle of the Second Punic War, fought between the Carthaginian forces of Hannibal and the Roman Republic in December of 218 BC, on or around the winter solstice. It was a resounding Roman defeat with heavy losses, with only about 10,000 out of 40,000 Romans surviving…. In this battle, Hannibal got the better of the Romans by exercising the careful and innovative planning for which he was famous. The impetuous and short-sighted opposing general, the consul Tiberius Sempronius Longus, allowed himself to be provoked into a frontal assault under physically difficult circumstances and failed to see that he was being led into a trap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Trebia

]]> By: Steve57 https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472439 Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:00:16 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472439 Yes kai. The Romans.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472390 Fri, 27 Dec 2019 02:35:35 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472390 Oblio on December 26, 2019 at 1:49 pm said:
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Second, you are going to have hard time making the story of historically 10-12 percent of the population define the meaning of the experience of everyone else. Maybe 40-50 percent can relate, kind of, but of course even the allies will insist on the dignity of their own stories.
But you will have a hard time selling it to the 40 percent who need to be erased if not demonized by that story.
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So far they have managed to make the story of historically less than 1% percent of the population define the meaning of the experience of everyone else.
Maybe 5-10% can relate to trans-gender victimization, but the feminists who were heretofore allies are definitely insisting on the dignity of their own stories.
We will see if the 90-95% who are neither victims nor victimizers (because the baying about bigotry is a false story requiring a huge twisting of facts and motivations) eventually allow themselves to be erased, the way a large number have already allowed themselves to be demonized.

]]> By: Julie near Chicago https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472380 Fri, 27 Dec 2019 00:22:26 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472380 Ann,

Thanks very much for the Wilentz article. Fascinating. I only wish he’d provided some footnotes with sources.

:>)

I also only (!) wish I could shove it under the noses of certain persons near & dear to me, who would then actually read and consider it.

]]> By: Oblio https://thenewneo.com/2019/12/24/the-times-and-the-truth-the-1619-project-and-the-teaching-of-history/#comment-2472353 Thu, 26 Dec 2019 20:45:01 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=91994#comment-2472353 Barry Meislin, not “merely” but including, or at least including talk of reparations, even if they make very little progress.
The point is to Wave the Bloody Shirt to keep the Others demonized and most importantly the coalition together. But if the African-American victimization narrative weakens, all the victim narratives weaken.

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