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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Dec 2019 02:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan: I read the book after seeing the movie. The movie was queasy-making in spots, but David Bowie was one of the most perfect casting choices in Hollywood history.

A friend saw it with a guy she had recently started dating. In the film David Bowie (the alien, of course) takes off his disguise and reveals to his human lover that he is an alien. She freaks out. As it happened, after seeing the film, my friend&#039;s lover revealed to her that he was a male dominant. 

She attempted to make light of it, &quot;You mean, whips and chains?&quot;

He said, &quot;Not chains...&quot; 

And that was the end of that budding relationship.

I&#039;ve wondered if the guy planned his reveal in the context of the film or whether it was really questionable timing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan: I read the book after seeing the movie. The movie was queasy-making in spots, but David Bowie was one of the most perfect casting choices in Hollywood history.</p>
<p>A friend saw it with a guy she had recently started dating. In the film David Bowie (the alien, of course) takes off his disguise and reveals to his human lover that he is an alien. She freaks out. As it happened, after seeing the film, my friend&#8217;s lover revealed to her that he was a male dominant. </p>
<p>She attempted to make light of it, &#8220;You mean, whips and chains?&#8221;</p>
<p>He said, &#8220;Not chains&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>And that was the end of that budding relationship.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve wondered if the guy planned his reveal in the context of the film or whether it was really questionable timing.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Dec 2019 00:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley - I read that book for the first time back in 2015.
Obviously, my id was surreptitiously preparing me for the coming Trumpocalypse!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley &#8211; I read that book for the first time back in 2015.<br />
Obviously, my id was surreptitiously preparing me for the coming Trumpocalypse!</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2019 15:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan: It&#039;s &quot;The Man Who Fell to Earth&quot; all over again. 

Eccentric billionaire turned celebrity attempts to leverage his power and wealth to return to his home planet. 

But the Swamp won&#039;t let him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan: It&#8217;s &#8220;The Man Who Fell to Earth&#8221; all over again. </p>
<p>Eccentric billionaire turned celebrity attempts to leverage his power and wealth to return to his home planet. </p>
<p>But the Swamp won&#8217;t let him.</p>
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		By: Kai Akker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2019 12:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”&lt;/i&gt;

AesopFan -- Quite a coincidence, to see that repeated! But not a coincidence at all, really. Isn&#039;t it interesting how often we turn to the Greeks at these moments?

I hope the conclusion of &lt;i&gt;The Bacchae&lt;/i&gt; arrives quickly.

                   O Father, now you can see
how everything has changed. I am in anguish now,
tormented, who walked in triumph minutes past,
exulting in my kill. And that prize I carried home
with such pride was my own curse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”</i></p>
<p>AesopFan &#8212; Quite a coincidence, to see that repeated! But not a coincidence at all, really. Isn&#8217;t it interesting how often we turn to the Greeks at these moments?</p>
<p>I hope the conclusion of <i>The Bacchae</i> arrives quickly.</p>
<p>                   O Father, now you can see<br />
how everything has changed. I am in anguish now,<br />
tormented, who walked in triumph minutes past,<br />
exulting in my kill. And that prize I carried home<br />
with such pride was my own curse.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2019 06:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For those who are wondering if they have wandered into the Twilight Zone:

https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/12/20/frances-rampant-anti-semitism/#comment-2471765

huxley on December 21, 2019 at 12:10 am said:
It’s not well-known but Martians have visited Earth, mated with Earth women, and left offspring behind in Budapest:

The Hungarian scientists were seemingly superhuman in intellect, spoke an incomprehensible native language, and came from a small obscure country. This led to them being called Martians, a name they jocularly adopted.

The joke was that Hungarian scientists are actually descendants of a Martian scout force which landed in Budapest around the year 1900, and later departed after the planet was found unsuitable, but leaving behind children by several Earth women, children who all became the famous scientists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who are wondering if they have wandered into the Twilight Zone:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/12/20/frances-rampant-anti-semitism/#comment-2471765" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/12/20/frances-rampant-anti-semitism/#comment-2471765</a></p>
<p>huxley on December 21, 2019 at 12:10 am said:<br />
It’s not well-known but Martians have visited Earth, mated with Earth women, and left offspring behind in Budapest:</p>
<p>The Hungarian scientists were seemingly superhuman in intellect, spoke an incomprehensible native language, and came from a small obscure country. This led to them being called Martians, a name they jocularly adopted.</p>
<p>The joke was that Hungarian scientists are actually descendants of a Martian scout force which landed in Budapest around the year 1900, and later departed after the planet was found unsuitable, but leaving behind children by several Earth women, children who all became the famous scientists.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists)" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists)</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2019 05:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As the clock ticked down, &lt;b&gt;Trump “suddenly turned toward the NASA administrator.” He asked: “What’s our plan for Mars?”&lt;/b&gt; Lightfoot explained to the president — who, again, had recently signed a bill containing a plan for Mars — that NASA planned to send a rover to Mars in 2020 and, by the 2030s, would attempt a manned spaceflight. &lt;b&gt;“Trump bristled,” according to Sims. He asked, “But is there any way we could do it by the end of my first term?”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

I told you Trump is a Martian. Wake up, sheeple!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As the clock ticked down, <b>Trump “suddenly turned toward the NASA administrator.” He asked: “What’s our plan for Mars?”</b> Lightfoot explained to the president — who, again, had recently signed a bill containing a plan for Mars — that NASA planned to send a rover to Mars in 2020 and, by the 2030s, would attempt a manned spaceflight. <b>“Trump bristled,” according to Sims. He asked, “But is there any way we could do it by the end of my first term?”</b></i></p>
<p>I told you Trump is a Martian. Wake up, sheeple!</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2019 05:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Andy on December 20, 2019 at 10:49 am said:
Schrodinger’s cat reminded of an interesting article that linked it to P vs NP problem in math. It addresses the macroscopic quandary associated with this paradox.

https://science.slashdot.org/story/14/04/04/1610237/p-vs-np-problem-linked-to-the-quantum-nature-of-the-universe
* * *
I confess to having only the vaguest idea what that was all about, but I do know that I will never impeach a president who does this:

https://science.slashdot.org/story/19/01/24/1720235/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-put-people-on-mars-by-2020-report-says?sdsrc=popbyskid

&lt;blockquote&gt; From a report, based on a book by Cliff Sims, who worked as a communications official for Trump on his presidential campaign and in the West Wing:
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Which then pulls an excerpt (the center section) from here, leaving out the best parts IMHO:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-go-to-mars-by-2020.html

&lt;blockquote&gt; 
...
But, according to an excerpt from Team of Vipers obtained by Intelligencer, Trump wasn’t joking. He was suddenly very serious about getting to Mars as soon as possible.

From the moment Sims broached the subject of the video call to the Space Station with Trump, it seemed to inspire in him a chimerical mood. “We don’t capture people’s imaginations anymore,” Trump said, in what Sims described as “a rare moment of wistfulness.” Trump continued: &lt;b&gt;“We used to do big things — incredible things. No one could do the things we could do. You have to inspire people. &lt;/b&gt;They went to the moon. But the call would be great. Honestly, how cool is NASA?”
..
[slashdot excerpt]
As the clock ticked down, Trump &quot;suddenly turned toward the NASA administrator.&quot; He asked: &quot;What&#039;s our plan for Mars?&quot; Lightfoot explained to the president -- who, again, had recently signed a bill containing a plan for Mars -- that NASA planned to send a rover to Mars in 2020 and, by the 2030s, would attempt a manned spaceflight. &quot;Trump bristled,&quot; according to Sims. He asked, &quot;But is there any way we could do it by the end of my first term?&quot;

Sims described the uncomfortable exchange that followed the question, with Lightfoot shifting and placing his hand on his chin, hesitating politely and attempting to let Trump down easily, emphasizing the logistical challenges involving &quot;distance, fuel capacity, etc. Also the fact that we hadn&#039;t landed an American anywhere remotely close to Mars ever.&quot; Sims himself was &quot;getting antsy&quot; by this point. With a number of points left to go over with the president, &quot;all I could think about was that we had to be on camera in three minutes .. &lt;b&gt;And yet we&#039;re in here casually chatting about shaving a full decade off NASA&#039;s timetable for sending a manned flight to Mars. And seemingly out of nowhere.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;
[end excerpt]

Trump did not seem worried about the time. Sims wrote that he leaned in toward Lightfoot and made him an offer.&lt;b&gt; “But what if I gave you all the money you could ever need to do it?” Trump asked. “What if we sent NASA’s budget through the roof, but focused entirely on that instead of whatever else you’re doing now. Could it work then?”&lt;/b&gt;

Lightfoot told him he was sorry, but he didn’t think it was possible. This left Trump “visibly disappointed,” Sims wrote.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wikipedia says the Mars plan is still on the NASA timeline. Sad.
But we did get the Space Force and Command!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy on December 20, 2019 at 10:49 am said:<br />
Schrodinger’s cat reminded of an interesting article that linked it to P vs NP problem in math. It addresses the macroscopic quandary associated with this paradox.</p>
<p><a href="https://science.slashdot.org/story/14/04/04/1610237/p-vs-np-problem-linked-to-the-quantum-nature-of-the-universe" rel="nofollow ugc">https://science.slashdot.org/story/14/04/04/1610237/p-vs-np-problem-linked-to-the-quantum-nature-of-the-universe</a><br />
* * *<br />
I confess to having only the vaguest idea what that was all about, but I do know that I will never impeach a president who does this:</p>
<p><a href="https://science.slashdot.org/story/19/01/24/1720235/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-put-people-on-mars-by-2020-report-says?sdsrc=popbyskid" rel="nofollow ugc">https://science.slashdot.org/story/19/01/24/1720235/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-put-people-on-mars-by-2020-report-says?sdsrc=popbyskid</a></p>
<blockquote><p> From a report, based on a book by Cliff Sims, who worked as a communications official for Trump on his presidential campaign and in the West Wing:
</p></blockquote>
<p>Which then pulls an excerpt (the center section) from here, leaving out the best parts IMHO:<br />
<a href="http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-go-to-mars-by-2020.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-go-to-mars-by-2020.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8230;<br />
But, according to an excerpt from Team of Vipers obtained by Intelligencer, Trump wasn’t joking. He was suddenly very serious about getting to Mars as soon as possible.</p>
<p>From the moment Sims broached the subject of the video call to the Space Station with Trump, it seemed to inspire in him a chimerical mood. “We don’t capture people’s imaginations anymore,” Trump said, in what Sims described as “a rare moment of wistfulness.” Trump continued: <b>“We used to do big things — incredible things. No one could do the things we could do. You have to inspire people. </b>They went to the moon. But the call would be great. Honestly, how cool is NASA?”<br />
..<br />
[slashdot excerpt]<br />
As the clock ticked down, Trump &#8220;suddenly turned toward the NASA administrator.&#8221; He asked: &#8220;What&#8217;s our plan for Mars?&#8221; Lightfoot explained to the president &#8212; who, again, had recently signed a bill containing a plan for Mars &#8212; that NASA planned to send a rover to Mars in 2020 and, by the 2030s, would attempt a manned spaceflight. &#8220;Trump bristled,&#8221; according to Sims. He asked, &#8220;But is there any way we could do it by the end of my first term?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sims described the uncomfortable exchange that followed the question, with Lightfoot shifting and placing his hand on his chin, hesitating politely and attempting to let Trump down easily, emphasizing the logistical challenges involving &#8220;distance, fuel capacity, etc. Also the fact that we hadn&#8217;t landed an American anywhere remotely close to Mars ever.&#8221; Sims himself was &#8220;getting antsy&#8221; by this point. With a number of points left to go over with the president, &#8220;all I could think about was that we had to be on camera in three minutes .. <b>And yet we&#8217;re in here casually chatting about shaving a full decade off NASA&#8217;s timetable for sending a manned flight to Mars. And seemingly out of nowhere.</b>&#8221;<br />
[end excerpt]</p>
<p>Trump did not seem worried about the time. Sims wrote that he leaned in toward Lightfoot and made him an offer.<b> “But what if I gave you all the money you could ever need to do it?” Trump asked. “What if we sent NASA’s budget through the roof, but focused entirely on that instead of whatever else you’re doing now. Could it work then?”</b></p>
<p>Lightfoot told him he was sorry, but he didn’t think it was possible. This left Trump “visibly disappointed,” Sims wrote.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Wikipedia says the Mars plan is still on the NASA timeline. Sad.<br />
But we did get the Space Force and Command!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2019 03:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, what happened to the “existential threat”? Or the “immediate need to end this threat to our democracy”?
I guess EggNog and Rumballs are far more urgent matters now for the Demarxists. Impeachment is just SO yesterday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what happened to the “existential threat”? Or the “immediate need to end this threat to our democracy”?<br />
I guess EggNog and Rumballs are far more urgent matters now for the Demarxists. Impeachment is just SO yesterday.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2019 02:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hah - serendipity at work!

https://jonathanturley.org/2019/12/20/trump-was-impeached-a-response-to-noah-feldman/comment-page-2/#comment-1907003

mespo727272 says:December 20, 2019 at 5:44 PM
Honoring this charade with scholarly analysis reminds me of the words of Euripides: “Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
? The Bacchae

BONUS:
https://babylonbee.com/news/unbiased-wapo-launches-fireworks-as-trump-impeached]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah &#8211; serendipity at work!</p>
<p><a href="https://jonathanturley.org/2019/12/20/trump-was-impeached-a-response-to-noah-feldman/comment-page-2/#comment-1907003" rel="nofollow ugc">https://jonathanturley.org/2019/12/20/trump-was-impeached-a-response-to-noah-feldman/comment-page-2/#comment-1907003</a></p>
<p>mespo727272 says:December 20, 2019 at 5:44 PM<br />
Honoring this charade with scholarly analysis reminds me of the words of Euripides: “Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”<br />
? The Bacchae</p>
<p>BONUS:<br />
<a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/unbiased-wapo-launches-fireworks-as-trump-impeached" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/unbiased-wapo-launches-fireworks-as-trump-impeached</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thread winner:

Doug Purdie on December 20, 2019 at 2:47 pm said:
While Ms Pelosi does want the voters to hear the word “impeached” for the next 11 months, she does not want them hearing the word “acquitted”.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thread winner:</p>
<p>Doug Purdie on December 20, 2019 at 2:47 pm said:<br />
While Ms Pelosi does want the voters to hear the word “impeached” for the next 11 months, she does not want them hearing the word “acquitted”.</p>
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