https://ia801304.us.archive.org/34/items/HitlersTableTalk_1941_1944/Hugh%20Trevor-Roper%20-%20Hitlers%20Table%20Talk%201941-1944%20%28His%20Private%20Conversations%29.pdf

I must say this Virginia gun control situation does seem to pose the possibility of actual violence.

If such a situation obtains, and by every indication it does, we have moved outside any Social and Political Contract and are in Hobbes’ “State of Nature” where warfare and blood determines matters and there is no political recourse short of that. Should not those on the Conservative side, seeing this, be preparing and planning for that warfare and blood so as to defeat those who would kill us in the most efficient way before they can kill us?

Subotai Bahadur

I agree with you. And that is another part of why I think the best approach here is to treat this impeachment exactly as it deserves — to toss it out on its ashcan ASAP. Kill the thing and let the President get back to real work and real achievements. The longer it stays open, the more opportunity for Democrats to make mischief, bad mischief. AG Barr is ready to throw the book at somebody, several somebodies, and that will take care of itself soon enough.

Would Nancy P have done this if she had thought the impeachment might actually succeed? I assume this is just maxxed-out cynicism and electoral gamesmanship, damn our history and our Constitution. But maybe there is 0.1% citizenship inside that head of hers (not in the heart position, a vacancy) that has been counting on losing the process.

The House passes an impeachment bill.

They know The Senate will most likely not convict POTUS Trump.

Even before the Senate trial, the Lawfare Group sues to remove Trump from the ballot because he is “impeached” and cannot be eligible. Right or wrongly they also file to keep him from campaigning for the same reasons. They will not prevail but this is just to confuse LIV’s who will swallow it all.

These Dems are just this devious (read evil).

Most people don’t believe that. Just social media addicts and most of them are…how shall I put this…wussies that would struggle to bait a fishing hook, let alone commit a violent act against a human being.

Mike

Their ‘best’ argument is junk, just like their ‘worst’.

Ignoring the question of who is actually correct, when two people each quite sincerely see the other as moments away from attempting to murder him, what kind of compromise, much less reconciliation, is even theoretically possible?

The monsters are due on Maple Street.

Once again, I am reminded that Tom Lehrer’s topical comedy of a half century ago is still on-topic.National Brotherhood Week.

I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I HATE people like that.

I am reminded of the decade of Friday nights at a bar with a fellow homeowner, which continued until the bar closed and he sold his unit. As he was a yellow dog Democrat, and I a yellow dog Republican, we had hours and hours of interesting political discussions.

One time I made a comment against something that Obama had said or done. The reply came back that he wasn’t a hater- as if hatred was defined as civilly disagreeing with Obama.

While my fellow homeowner wasn’t a hater, he on occasion referred to “Teabaggers,” which considering what the term originally meant, is rather hateful. One time, several years after the inccident, I referred to the pilot who drove his small plane into an IRS building. That suicide pilot was a “Teabagger,” he told me, which considering that his farewell letter quoted Marx, wasn’t accurate.

Some are driven by hate, but many are driven by what they see as hatred of hate. If they define the right as bigots and haters, and they hate the haters, then they see themselves as fighting hatred.