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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/19/gentlemen-and-gentlewomen-vs-trump/#comment-2467517</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;you dont treat a skank like a lady.. it sullies real ladies&quot; - Artfldgr

Very old story I heard many years ago.
A man in an elevator was joined by two women. 
He respectfully removed his hat (men did that, back in those days).
While the women were chatting with each other, one of them began to get quite &quot;blue&quot; in her expressions. (That&#039;s what we used to call cussin&#039; and such.)
He put his hat back on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you dont treat a skank like a lady.. it sullies real ladies&#8221; &#8211; Artfldgr</p>
<p>Very old story I heard many years ago.<br />
A man in an elevator was joined by two women.<br />
He respectfully removed his hat (men did that, back in those days).<br />
While the women were chatting with each other, one of them began to get quite &#8220;blue&#8221; in her expressions. (That&#8217;s what we used to call cussin&#8217; and such.)<br />
He put his hat back on.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/19/gentlemen-and-gentlewomen-vs-trump/#comment-2467516</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2019 22:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Support for Jeremy Brett as Peter Wimsey, especially the headshot of his early youth.
Lord Peter, IIRC, was probably not as handsome as Brett, although he was striking in appearance.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/nostalgia/sherlock-holmes-kill-midland-actor-11894976

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jeremy_Brett_Headshot.jpg

&quot;I have to ask you, who would be your pick of 20th-century movie stars to play Lord Peter? (I’ve known who it should be for decades, of course. *g*) If you’ll tell, I’ll tell. :&#062;)))&quot; - Julie

Were you thinking of Rex Harrison?
Not a bad choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Support for Jeremy Brett as Peter Wimsey, especially the headshot of his early youth.<br />
Lord Peter, IIRC, was probably not as handsome as Brett, although he was striking in appearance.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/nostalgia/sherlock-holmes-kill-midland-actor-11894976" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/nostalgia/sherlock-holmes-kill-midland-actor-11894976</a></p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jeremy_Brett_Headshot.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jeremy_Brett_Headshot.jpg</a></p>
<p>&#8220;I have to ask you, who would be your pick of 20th-century movie stars to play Lord Peter? (I’ve known who it should be for decades, of course. *g*) If you’ll tell, I’ll tell. :&gt;)))&#8221; &#8211; Julie</p>
<p>Were you thinking of Rex Harrison?<br />
Not a bad choice.</p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aesop,
So vhat iss ziss &quot;theatre&quot;?  That don&#039;t look like no AmerEnglish vhat I know uff.

[Plizz to forgive the mixed pidgenry.  ;&#062;) ]

I&#039;ve never heard of Jeremy Brett.  :&#062;(   After all I am just a simple farm girl and my theater experiences almost all occurred in the high-school gym. :&#062;((

   Rex Harrison is the only Prof. &#039;Iggins I know of.  And I&#039;m sorry to say that the only Broadway plays I&#039;ve seen are the original &lt;em&gt;Barefoot in the Park&lt;/em&gt; (Robert *ugh* Redford, talk about a narcissist! --No offense meant if you are a fan) and &lt;em&gt;20th Century Limited&lt;/em&gt; in Chicago*, with Rock Hudson and Ann  Miller -- IIRC.

*Aerie Crown Theatre (in McCormick Place) was Broadway for purposes of Chicago. :LOL:  

Heh.  About those &quot;u&quot;s, and &quot;theatre,&quot; &quot;centre,&quot; etc.  For some reason it entertains me to &quot;spell British&quot; on British sites even when the Americans spell American.  In HS I came in with a 99 on one of our geometry tests even though the math was all 100%.  &quot;Vhass ist?&quot; sez I to our teacher.  &quot;You misspelled &#039;center,&#039; sez he.&quot; &quot;Did not,&quot; I said vehemently.  That&#039;s perfectly correct -- it&#039;s just the English spelling.  &quot;This isn&#039;t England,&quot; he replies.  GRRRRRRR, growls I.

Heh.  Later I found out why the Federal Case.  He was Mennonite, and it&#039;s a point of Mennonite doctrine that only God can be perfect.  So, his religion required him to find a flaw in all things created Here Below, including by lowly math students.  Thank the Great Frog I used the English spelling!  He/it/she did manage to save Mr. Oyer&#039;s immortal soul.

Oh well.  I&#039;m still here, &#062;60 years later, and I hope he is too (I think he was 22 at the time -- it was his first year out of college).  If that&#039;s the worst that ever happens....  :&#062;)))!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aesop,<br />
So vhat iss ziss &#8220;theatre&#8221;?  That don&#8217;t look like no AmerEnglish vhat I know uff.</p>
<p>[Plizz to forgive the mixed pidgenry.  ;&gt;) ]</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of Jeremy Brett.  :&gt;(   After all I am just a simple farm girl and my theater experiences almost all occurred in the high-school gym. :&gt;((</p>
<p>   Rex Harrison is the only Prof. &#8216;Iggins I know of.  And I&#8217;m sorry to say that the only Broadway plays I&#8217;ve seen are the original <em>Barefoot in the Park</em> (Robert *ugh* Redford, talk about a narcissist! &#8211;No offense meant if you are a fan) and <em>20th Century Limited</em> in Chicago*, with Rock Hudson and Ann  Miller &#8212; IIRC.</p>
<p>*Aerie Crown Theatre (in McCormick Place) was Broadway for purposes of Chicago. :LOL:  </p>
<p>Heh.  About those &#8220;u&#8221;s, and &#8220;theatre,&#8221; &#8220;centre,&#8221; etc.  For some reason it entertains me to &#8220;spell British&#8221; on British sites even when the Americans spell American.  In HS I came in with a 99 on one of our geometry tests even though the math was all 100%.  &#8220;Vhass ist?&#8221; sez I to our teacher.  &#8220;You misspelled &#8216;center,&#8217; sez he.&#8221; &#8220;Did not,&#8221; I said vehemently.  That&#8217;s perfectly correct &#8212; it&#8217;s just the English spelling.  &#8220;This isn&#8217;t England,&#8221; he replies.  GRRRRRRR, growls I.</p>
<p>Heh.  Later I found out why the Federal Case.  He was Mennonite, and it&#8217;s a point of Mennonite doctrine that only God can be perfect.  So, his religion required him to find a flaw in all things created Here Below, including by lowly math students.  Thank the Great Frog I used the English spelling!  He/it/she did manage to save Mr. Oyer&#8217;s immortal soul.</p>
<p>Oh well.  I&#8217;m still here, &gt;60 years later, and I hope he is too (I think he was 22 at the time &#8212; it was his first year out of college).  If that&#8217;s the worst that ever happens&#8230;.  :&gt;)))!!!</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Micha elyi put in the claim that Trump supporters do not fight.

I wasn&#039;t a Trump supporter to start with.

Not to brag, but I was Navy. I&#039;ve been in fights from Norfolk to Pohang to Mombasa. I&#039;ve walked away from more fights than you can imagine. But the thing is sometimes the fight is upon you. And you can&#039;t walk away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micha elyi put in the claim that Trump supporters do not fight.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t a Trump supporter to start with.</p>
<p>Not to brag, but I was Navy. I&#8217;ve been in fights from Norfolk to Pohang to Mombasa. I&#8217;ve walked away from more fights than you can imagine. But the thing is sometimes the fight is upon you. And you can&#8217;t walk away.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/19/gentlemen-and-gentlewomen-vs-trump/#comment-2467071</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2019 16:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Julie near Chicago on November 20, 2019 at 10:17 pm said:
Aesop,

Lord Peter! Now you’re talkin’. ...
* * *
My early reading consisted of so many British writers (Sayers, Christie, etc), that 
I used to joke that I knew more Brit-speak than Yankee-isms. I also tended to put &quot;u&quot; in the middle of words, and go to the theatre.
I never really liked Harriet until Gaudy Night.
That she was Dorothy&#039;s avatar is quite obvious.
My choice for the cinema: Jeremy Brett in his younger &quot;My Fair Lady&quot; days, but with the manic gravitas of his Sherlockian ouevre.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie near Chicago on November 20, 2019 at 10:17 pm said:<br />
Aesop,</p>
<p>Lord Peter! Now you’re talkin’. &#8230;<br />
* * *<br />
My early reading consisted of so many British writers (Sayers, Christie, etc), that<br />
I used to joke that I knew more Brit-speak than Yankee-isms. I also tended to put &#8220;u&#8221; in the middle of words, and go to the theatre.<br />
I never really liked Harriet until Gaudy Night.<br />
That she was Dorothy&#8217;s avatar is quite obvious.<br />
My choice for the cinema: Jeremy Brett in his younger &#8220;My Fair Lady&#8221; days, but with the manic gravitas of his Sherlockian ouevre.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 14:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stan Brown on November 20, 2019 at 4:40 pm said:	
&lt;blockquote&gt;
A gentleman doesn’t lie, steal or cheat.
He doesn’t slander others.
He doesn’t abuse his position.
He defends the weak. He doesn’t shirk his duty. He fights when necessary.
He is loyal to his friends and allies.

Being a true gentleman is far, far more from a few cursory manners.

On the gentleman scale, Trump sometimes falls short, but he stacks up extremely well when compared to Obama, the Clintons, the Never Trumpers, and the Democrats of the deep state in DC.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

not to mention that such behaviors are reserved for others of gentlemanly or womanly behavior!!!!!!

ie. you dont treat a skank like a lady.. it sullies real ladies

and that is one of the things the feminists changed... ie. you get the reward without the behavior... so now we have people upset he isnt a gentleman to everyone, rather than he IS being right and proper and reserving that behavior for those that deserve it in their behavior.. not automatically by station.. 

you do not reward bad behavior with good behavior
you dont call a evil woman a lady
you dont call a evil man a gentleman
neither deserve the social reward
and others do not deserve to be false believers they are good because good people are too afraid to label them correctly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stan Brown on November 20, 2019 at 4:40 pm said:	</p>
<blockquote><p>
A gentleman doesn’t lie, steal or cheat.<br />
He doesn’t slander others.<br />
He doesn’t abuse his position.<br />
He defends the weak. He doesn’t shirk his duty. He fights when necessary.<br />
He is loyal to his friends and allies.</p>
<p>Being a true gentleman is far, far more from a few cursory manners.</p>
<p>On the gentleman scale, Trump sometimes falls short, but he stacks up extremely well when compared to Obama, the Clintons, the Never Trumpers, and the Democrats of the deep state in DC.
</p></blockquote>
<p>not to mention that such behaviors are reserved for others of gentlemanly or womanly behavior!!!!!!</p>
<p>ie. you dont treat a skank like a lady.. it sullies real ladies</p>
<p>and that is one of the things the feminists changed&#8230; ie. you get the reward without the behavior&#8230; so now we have people upset he isnt a gentleman to everyone, rather than he IS being right and proper and reserving that behavior for those that deserve it in their behavior.. not automatically by station.. </p>
<p>you do not reward bad behavior with good behavior<br />
you dont call a evil woman a lady<br />
you dont call a evil man a gentleman<br />
neither deserve the social reward<br />
and others do not deserve to be false believers they are good because good people are too afraid to label them correctly.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/19/gentlemen-and-gentlewomen-vs-trump/#comment-2466854</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 01:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan:

Interesting ….

&quot;What&#039;s up Doc?&quot;

&quot;Be very quiet, we&#039;re hunting wabbits, wepublican wabbits.&quot;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzQ9kxs6RL8]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan:</p>
<p>Interesting ….</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s up Doc?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Be very quiet, we&#8217;re hunting wabbits, wepublican wabbits.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzQ9kxs6RL8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzQ9kxs6RL8</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/19/gentlemen-and-gentlewomen-vs-trump/#comment-2466848</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 01:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr on November 20, 2019 at 11:35 am said:
Ukrainian members of parliament have demanded the presidents of Ukraine and the United States, Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump, investigate suspicions ....
* * *
Source of story looks to be here:
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html

J.E. Dyer tackles that allegation with interesting results.
It&#039;s the Ukraine.
It&#039;s ... complicated.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/11/21/hmm-ukrainian-mps-abrupt-announcement-of-burisma-linked-money-laundering-allegation-has-major-fact-problem/
&lt;blockquote&gt; In fact, however, there is no record of any donation by John Templeton, Jr. to Obama.  Nor would we expect there to be: &lt;b&gt;the Templetons, father and son (both now deceased; Templeton, Jr. in 2015), were evangelical Christians with right-wing political views.  And Templeton, Jr. was widely known for being a major donor to conservative organizations and Republican politicians.&lt;/b&gt;

Other claims of fact by the MPs check out, such as the point about Tom Donilon’s role with BlackRock and his time as national security adviser to Obama (he preceded Susan Rice).

Franklin Templeton Investments also became a major holder of Ukrainian debt, as alluded to by the MPs.
...
&lt;b&gt;Now, there may be a figure who, on inspection, fits that description.&lt;/b&gt;  She is an American public official and investment fund operator who served as Ukraine’s finance minister from 2014 to 2016, and who worked closely with Franklin Templeton to arrange a debt-relief package for Ukraine in 2015.  This individual, Natalie Jaresko, an American of Ukrainian descent, might be said to be close to the Democratic Party herself.

She became Ukraine’s finance minister in December 2014, after operating an investment company that specializes in Ukraine and was initially capitalized in 2006 by USAID.  (Her story puts in some perspective the peculiar news that Alexander Vindman was reportedly offered the post of defense minister in Ukraine.)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr on November 20, 2019 at 11:35 am said:<br />
Ukrainian members of parliament have demanded the presidents of Ukraine and the United States, Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump, investigate suspicions &#8230;.<br />
* * *<br />
Source of story looks to be here:<br />
<a href="https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html</a></p>
<p>J.E. Dyer tackles that allegation with interesting results.<br />
It&#8217;s the Ukraine.<br />
It&#8217;s &#8230; complicated.</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/11/21/hmm-ukrainian-mps-abrupt-announcement-of-burisma-linked-money-laundering-allegation-has-major-fact-problem/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/11/21/hmm-ukrainian-mps-abrupt-announcement-of-burisma-linked-money-laundering-allegation-has-major-fact-problem/</a></p>
<blockquote><p> In fact, however, there is no record of any donation by John Templeton, Jr. to Obama.  Nor would we expect there to be: <b>the Templetons, father and son (both now deceased; Templeton, Jr. in 2015), were evangelical Christians with right-wing political views.  And Templeton, Jr. was widely known for being a major donor to conservative organizations and Republican politicians.</b></p>
<p>Other claims of fact by the MPs check out, such as the point about Tom Donilon’s role with BlackRock and his time as national security adviser to Obama (he preceded Susan Rice).</p>
<p>Franklin Templeton Investments also became a major holder of Ukrainian debt, as alluded to by the MPs.<br />
&#8230;<br />
<b>Now, there may be a figure who, on inspection, fits that description.</b>  She is an American public official and investment fund operator who served as Ukraine’s finance minister from 2014 to 2016, and who worked closely with Franklin Templeton to arrange a debt-relief package for Ukraine in 2015.  This individual, Natalie Jaresko, an American of Ukrainian descent, might be said to be close to the Democratic Party herself.</p>
<p>She became Ukraine’s finance minister in December 2014, after operating an investment company that specializes in Ukraine and was initially capitalized in 2006 by USAID.  (Her story puts in some perspective the peculiar news that Alexander Vindman was reportedly offered the post of defense minister in Ukraine.)
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 00:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Gentleman faces off against someone who is not a Lady.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/ben-carson-on-maxine-waters-letter-basic-manners-elude-you/

&lt;blockquote&gt; Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson said Monday that Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) lacked “basic manners” in penning a letter to President Donald Trump last month saying his “shamelessness knows no bounds.”
Waters’ October 28 letter demanded answers from the Trump administration about its plan to push homeless Californians out of homeless encampments, Politico reported.

The Washington Post reported in September that the administration has pushed for a crackdown on homeless encampments in California, with aides discussing the possibility of moving them to government-run facilities.

“Shamelessness,” Carson wrote in a reply letter obtained by Politico, “is a career politician of 30 years laying blame. Shamelessness is allowing more than 55,000 Americans to live on the very streets they represent,” referencing Waters’ district in southern Los Angeles County.

Carson added that he wrote multiple letters to Waters’ office with the intent of meeting to discuss the homelessness crisis in her district but claimed she had refused to meet him.

“Basic manners elude you and it seems that instead of producing results, you’re more interested in producing cheap headlines at the President’s expense — like a true career politician,” Carson continued.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Gentleman faces off against someone who is not a Lady.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/ben-carson-on-maxine-waters-letter-basic-manners-elude-you/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/ben-carson-on-maxine-waters-letter-basic-manners-elude-you/</a></p>
<blockquote><p> Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson said Monday that Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) lacked “basic manners” in penning a letter to President Donald Trump last month saying his “shamelessness knows no bounds.”<br />
Waters’ October 28 letter demanded answers from the Trump administration about its plan to push homeless Californians out of homeless encampments, Politico reported.</p>
<p>The Washington Post reported in September that the administration has pushed for a crackdown on homeless encampments in California, with aides discussing the possibility of moving them to government-run facilities.</p>
<p>“Shamelessness,” Carson wrote in a reply letter obtained by Politico, “is a career politician of 30 years laying blame. Shamelessness is allowing more than 55,000 Americans to live on the very streets they represent,” referencing Waters’ district in southern Los Angeles County.</p>
<p>Carson added that he wrote multiple letters to Waters’ office with the intent of meeting to discuss the homelessness crisis in her district but claimed she had refused to meet him.</p>
<p>“Basic manners elude you and it seems that instead of producing results, you’re more interested in producing cheap headlines at the President’s expense — like a true career politician,” Carson continued.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Trum is in the same position as Lincoln before he was assassinated.&quot;  

comedy gold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Trum is in the same position as Lincoln before he was assassinated.&#8221;  </p>
<p>comedy gold.</p>
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