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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[physicsguy on November 15, 2019 at 2:00 pm said:
WOW, anyone catch Schiff shutting down Stefanik? The guy is a total a-hole. And scary too…look at his face and body language as he does the shutdown:

https://youtu.be/CNRcieqljBg

What I can’t understand is how much longer the Republicans put up with this.
* * *
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/11/15/jim-jordan-reveals-ambassador-yovanovitch-partisan-hack-gets-good-shot-adam-schiff-process/
&lt;blockquote&gt; Finally, Jordan runs out of time as Yovanovitch refuses to even acknowledge questions and Schiff comes to her rescue.

“I have indulged you with extra time, but my indulgence is wearing out. There is a question here, right?”
...
Rep. Jordan just knocked him out. &quot;Our indulgence wore out with you a long time ago, Mr. Chairman.&quot;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>physicsguy on November 15, 2019 at 2:00 pm said:<br />
WOW, anyone catch Schiff shutting down Stefanik? The guy is a total a-hole. And scary too…look at his face and body language as he does the shutdown:</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/CNRcieqljBg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/CNRcieqljBg</a></p>
<p>What I can’t understand is how much longer the Republicans put up with this.<br />
* * *<br />
<a href="https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/11/15/jim-jordan-reveals-ambassador-yovanovitch-partisan-hack-gets-good-shot-adam-schiff-process/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/11/15/jim-jordan-reveals-ambassador-yovanovitch-partisan-hack-gets-good-shot-adam-schiff-process/</a></p>
<blockquote><p> Finally, Jordan runs out of time as Yovanovitch refuses to even acknowledge questions and Schiff comes to her rescue.</p>
<p>“I have indulged you with extra time, but my indulgence is wearing out. There is a question here, right?”<br />
&#8230;<br />
Rep. Jordan just knocked him out. &#8220;Our indulgence wore out with you a long time ago, Mr. Chairman.&#8221;
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		By: jack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/14/impeachment-thread/#comment-2465415</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 03:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.npr.org/2019/11/14/779318947/yovanovitch-ex-ambassador-to-ukraine-will-testify-in-trump-impeachment-hearings

&quot;Former U.S. diplomats have been outraged by the treatment of Yovanovitch, who is still a State Department employee.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/11/14/779318947/yovanovitch-ex-ambassador-to-ukraine-will-testify-in-trump-impeachment-hearings" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.npr.org/2019/11/14/779318947/yovanovitch-ex-ambassador-to-ukraine-will-testify-in-trump-impeachment-hearings</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Former U.S. diplomats have been outraged by the treatment of Yovanovitch, who is still a State Department employee.&#8221;</p>
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		By: jack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/14/impeachment-thread/#comment-2465414</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 03:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Gimme a break. Trump fired and insulted her.&quot; My understanding is that she was removed from her post as ambassador. She is still a state dept employee. Am I wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gimme a break. Trump fired and insulted her.&#8221; My understanding is that she was removed from her post as ambassador. She is still a state dept employee. Am I wrong?</p>
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		By: jack		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 03:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve watched all of this show. I haven&#039;t heard anything but &quot;concern this concern that&quot; from the first two witnesses and all I heard today was ... how dare Trump remove me from my post (she hasn&#039;t even been fired from her cushy job)!

Well with this testimony so far I or anyone that&#039;s been following this could have been as much of a witness as these people?

In the days to come if Shiff doesn&#039;t call anyone that was actually in the room the day of the call ... it should be game over in the senate even if they do get the votes to impeach. And the first thing the senate should do is charge Shiff for perjury (with his I don&#039;t know the whistleblower crap if that is possible).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve watched all of this show. I haven&#8217;t heard anything but &#8220;concern this concern that&#8221; from the first two witnesses and all I heard today was &#8230; how dare Trump remove me from my post (she hasn&#8217;t even been fired from her cushy job)!</p>
<p>Well with this testimony so far I or anyone that&#8217;s been following this could have been as much of a witness as these people?</p>
<p>In the days to come if Shiff doesn&#8217;t call anyone that was actually in the room the day of the call &#8230; it should be game over in the senate even if they do get the votes to impeach. And the first thing the senate should do is charge Shiff for perjury (with his I don&#8217;t know the whistleblower crap if that is possible).</p>
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		By: SueK		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 21:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;What I can’t understand is how much longer the Republicans put up with this.&quot;

Given that they&#039;re the minority, and the restrictions that have been put on them because they&#039;re in the minority...what can they do?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What I can’t understand is how much longer the Republicans put up with this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Given that they&#8217;re the minority, and the restrictions that have been put on them because they&#8217;re in the minority&#8230;what can they do?</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 19:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WOW, anyone catch Schiff shutting down Stefanik?  The guy is a total a-hole. And scary too...look at his face and body language as he does the shutdown:

https://youtu.be/CNRcieqljBg

What I can&#039;t understand is how much longer the Republicans put up with this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, anyone catch Schiff shutting down Stefanik?  The guy is a total a-hole. And scary too&#8230;look at his face and body language as he does the shutdown:</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/CNRcieqljBg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/CNRcieqljBg</a></p>
<p>What I can&#8217;t understand is how much longer the Republicans put up with this.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is Yovanovitch apolitical. non-partisan, and not a never-Trumper? Gimme a break. Trump fired and insulted her. She doesn&#039;t want payback? Also, her positive outgoing responses to Dems compared to her combative,halting responses to Repubs says it all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Yovanovitch apolitical. non-partisan, and not a never-Trumper? Gimme a break. Trump fired and insulted her. She doesn&#8217;t want payback? Also, her positive outgoing responses to Dems compared to her combative,halting responses to Repubs says it all.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And now we get the enlightening moment where the same people telling us impeachment is a political and a legal act are now accusing President Trump of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE for tweeting insulting things about a hearing witness.&lt;/i&gt;

Andrew Weissman wanted to use that particular gambit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And now we get the enlightening moment where the same people telling us impeachment is a political and a legal act are now accusing President Trump of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE for tweeting insulting things about a hearing witness.</i></p>
<p>Andrew Weissman wanted to use that particular gambit.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And now we get the enlightening moment where the same people telling us impeachment is a political and a legal act are now accusing President Trump of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE for tweeting insulting things about a hearing witness.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now we get the enlightening moment where the same people telling us impeachment is a political and a legal act are now accusing President Trump of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE for tweeting insulting things about a hearing witness.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[D. Cohen
As if that wasn&#039;t bad enough, and you wish to say, well, in the past we were nicer.. 

Adams had a special expression that he came up with for Hamilton: &lt;b&gt;&quot;bastard brat of a Scotch pedler.”&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;

    Yet I loose all Patience, when I think of a bastard brat of a Scotch Pedler, daring to threaten to undeceive the World in their Judgment of Washington, by writing a history of his battles and Campaigns.
    —Letter to Benjamin Rush, 25 January 1806

    Shall I replace on the Shoulders of Washington the burthens that a bastard Bratt of a Scotch Pedlar, placed on his Shoulders, and he Shifted on mine?
    —Letter to Thomas Jefferson, 12 July 1813

    When Perfidy and Treachery, Imbecility, Ignorance Fanaticism and Fury Surrounded Us; all, Puppets danced upon the Wires of a Bastard Bratt of a Scotch Pedlar.
    —Letter to John Quincy Adams, 20 May 1816
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;b&gt;

 in 1855, Kenneth Rayner (a former Congressman from North Carolina) gave a speech in which he referred to President Franklin Pierce as one such creature:

    “The minions of power are watching you, to be turned out &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;by the pimp of the White House&lt;/b&gt; if you refuse to sustain him. A man sunk so low we can hardly hate. We have nothing but disgust, pity, and contempt.”
    —The Weekly Standard [Raleigh, NC], 4 July 1855

Some of the insults that had been lobbed Lincoln’s way: “Filthy story-teller, Ignoramus Abe, Despot, Old scoundrel, big secessionist, perjurer, liar, robber, thief, swindler, braggart, tyrant, buffoon, fiend, usurper, butcher, monster, land-pirate, a long, lean, lank, lantern-jawed, high-cheeked-boned, spavined, rail-splitting stallion.”

The Cincinnati Gazette was reported to have published, in 1828, an article which alleged this very thing.

    &lt;b&gt;&quot;General Jackson’s mother was a common prostitute, brought to this country by the British soldiers! She afterwards married a mulatto man, with whom she had several children, of which number General Jackson is one!&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Jefferson allegedly hired the journalist James Thomson Callender to write unpleasant things about his opponent. Callender set to his task with gusto, and published an attack on Adams which stated that &lt;b&gt;he was “a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, not the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.” &lt;/b&gt;

the people of the past were much more crude than anything trump has ever done in public, and some of them are heroes of the founding...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D. Cohen<br />
As if that wasn&#8217;t bad enough, and you wish to say, well, in the past we were nicer.. </p>
<p>Adams had a special expression that he came up with for Hamilton: <b>&#8220;bastard brat of a Scotch pedler.”</b></p>
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<p>    Yet I loose all Patience, when I think of a bastard brat of a Scotch Pedler, daring to threaten to undeceive the World in their Judgment of Washington, by writing a history of his battles and Campaigns.<br />
    —Letter to Benjamin Rush, 25 January 1806</p>
<p>    Shall I replace on the Shoulders of Washington the burthens that a bastard Bratt of a Scotch Pedlar, placed on his Shoulders, and he Shifted on mine?<br />
    —Letter to Thomas Jefferson, 12 July 1813</p>
<p>    When Perfidy and Treachery, Imbecility, Ignorance Fanaticism and Fury Surrounded Us; all, Puppets danced upon the Wires of a Bastard Bratt of a Scotch Pedlar.<br />
    —Letter to John Quincy Adams, 20 May 1816
</p></blockquote>
<p><b></p>
<p> in 1855, Kenneth Rayner (a former Congressman from North Carolina) gave a speech in which he referred to President Franklin Pierce as one such creature:</p>
<p>    “The minions of power are watching you, to be turned out </b><b>by the pimp of the White House</b> if you refuse to sustain him. A man sunk so low we can hardly hate. We have nothing but disgust, pity, and contempt.”<br />
    —The Weekly Standard [Raleigh, NC], 4 July 1855</p>
<p>Some of the insults that had been lobbed Lincoln’s way: “Filthy story-teller, Ignoramus Abe, Despot, Old scoundrel, big secessionist, perjurer, liar, robber, thief, swindler, braggart, tyrant, buffoon, fiend, usurper, butcher, monster, land-pirate, a long, lean, lank, lantern-jawed, high-cheeked-boned, spavined, rail-splitting stallion.”</p>
<p>The Cincinnati Gazette was reported to have published, in 1828, an article which alleged this very thing.</p>
<p>    <b>&#8220;General Jackson’s mother was a common prostitute, brought to this country by the British soldiers! She afterwards married a mulatto man, with whom she had several children, of which number General Jackson is one!&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Jefferson allegedly hired the journalist James Thomson Callender to write unpleasant things about his opponent. Callender set to his task with gusto, and published an attack on Adams which stated that <b>he was “a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, not the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.” </b></p>
<p>the people of the past were much more crude than anything trump has ever done in public, and some of them are heroes of the founding&#8230;</p>
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