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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465308</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[J.J. on November 14, 2019 at 1:59 pm said:
Though I’ve not give a dime to my old school since Ward Churchill became infamous, they still send me yearly updates on the School of Geology from which I graduated in 1954.
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Wow - you really are older than the hills!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J. on November 14, 2019 at 1:59 pm said:<br />
Though I’ve not give a dime to my old school since Ward Churchill became infamous, they still send me yearly updates on the School of Geology from which I graduated in 1954.<br />
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Wow &#8211; you really are older than the hills!<br />
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465265</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 01:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What part of the Ivy Halls that Art Deco is pining for and praising isn&#039;t equivalent to post adolescent day care?  Not to be confused with that low class trade school? Or, heavens forbid, engineering, an applied science.  He needs a hobby, no pet would have him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What part of the Ivy Halls that Art Deco is pining for and praising isn&#8217;t equivalent to post adolescent day care?  Not to be confused with that low class trade school? Or, heavens forbid, engineering, an applied science.  He needs a hobby, no pet would have him.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465249</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Disney has added disclaimers to movies such as Dumbo, The Jungle Book and Lady and the Tramp warning of “outdated cultural depictions.”

It was reported by some outlets that the studio would cut some controversial scenes, such as one from Dumbo featuring a crow named Jim Crow, but other outlets have said the scene hasn’t been removed. Disney also “reinvented” the The Siamese Cat Song from the original Lady and the Tramp for the company’s live-action remake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disney has added disclaimers to movies such as Dumbo, The Jungle Book and Lady and the Tramp warning of “outdated cultural depictions.”</p>
<p>It was reported by some outlets that the studio would cut some controversial scenes, such as one from Dumbo featuring a crow named Jim Crow, but other outlets have said the scene hasn’t been removed. Disney also “reinvented” the The Siamese Cat Song from the original Lady and the Tramp for the company’s live-action remake.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465246</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Our colleges are not even trying to provide education that leads to productive employment for a large number of their graduates. &lt;/i&gt;

Again, 65% of all baccalaureate degrees awarded are in vocational subjects.  The share is higher, not lower, than was the case 50 years ago.  In 1970, about 12% of each birth cohort was cadging a degree in an academic or artistic subject.  It might be 16% nowadays.  Socially superoptimal, but not a radical difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Our colleges are not even trying to provide education that leads to productive employment for a large number of their graduates. </i></p>
<p>Again, 65% of all baccalaureate degrees awarded are in vocational subjects.  The share is higher, not lower, than was the case 50 years ago.  In 1970, about 12% of each birth cohort was cadging a degree in an academic or artistic subject.  It might be 16% nowadays.  Socially superoptimal, but not a radical difference.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Art Deco: Some things you don’t know about:&lt;/i&gt;

You know, you could always get a pet or a proper hobby.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Art Deco: Some things you don’t know about:</i></p>
<p>You know, you could always get a pet or a proper hobby.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;A geology specialization outside of mining and oil exploration leadsto two possible jobs &lt;/i&gt;

Again, academic departments trade in things that &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; map precisely to careers, even if they make an applicant interesting to someone hiring.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A geology specialization outside of mining and oil exploration leadsto two possible jobs </i></p>
<p>Again, academic departments trade in things that <i>don&#8217;t</i> map precisely to careers, even if they make an applicant interesting to someone hiring.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465235</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi physicsguy. Glad to know you&#039;re a fellow Buff. Glory, glory Colorado. ;-) 

&#039;Twas a great place to go to school. Especially for geology students. All that geology growing wild right off campus. One of my senior projects was measuring detailed cross sections of the Fountain Formation (The stuff the Flatirons are made of.) Knocked it off during spring break because the outcrops were so close to campus. :-) 

You may have heard of Dr. Pietenpol, who taught physics there in my era. He loved to teach freshman physics. It was called Dr. Pietenpol&#039;s magic show because he did so many interesting demos in class. Nice memories.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi physicsguy. Glad to know you&#8217;re a fellow Buff. Glory, glory Colorado. 😉 </p>
<p>&#8216;Twas a great place to go to school. Especially for geology students. All that geology growing wild right off campus. One of my senior projects was measuring detailed cross sections of the Fountain Formation (The stuff the Flatirons are made of.) Knocked it off during spring break because the outcrops were so close to campus. 🙂 </p>
<p>You may have heard of Dr. Pietenpol, who taught physics there in my era. He loved to teach freshman physics. It was called Dr. Pietenpol&#8217;s magic show because he did so many interesting demos in class. Nice memories.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2019 21:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J.   ahh...a fellow Buff! Though I graduated 20 years later.  I also have not contributed to CU since Ward Churchill, and last year when I visited, I confirmed that indeed it&#039;s become The People&#039;s Republic of Boulder...a bit sad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J.   ahh&#8230;a fellow Buff! Though I graduated 20 years later.  I also have not contributed to CU since Ward Churchill, and last year when I visited, I confirmed that indeed it&#8217;s become The People&#8217;s Republic of Boulder&#8230;a bit sad.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2019 20:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

Some things you don&#039;t know about:  stratigraphy, sedimentology, geophysics, structural geology, rock mechanics, exploration geophysics, mineralogy, economic geology, paleontology, geostatistics (yes, that is a particular subset of the field)  …  Not exactly trade school topics.  Stick to what you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>Some things you don&#8217;t know about:  stratigraphy, sedimentology, geophysics, structural geology, rock mechanics, exploration geophysics, mineralogy, economic geology, paleontology, geostatistics (yes, that is a particular subset of the field)  …  Not exactly trade school topics.  Stick to what you know.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/13/professor-jacobson-on-students-and-free-speech/#comment-2465205</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2019 20:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco: &quot;….but the geology department in the college of arts and sciences is properly a thing distinct from the school of mines.&quot;

A geology specialization outside of mining and oil exploration leadsto two possible jobs - teaching geology or working for the government. Both necessary careers, but the job openings are limited  in comparison to mining and oil exploration.  Teaching and government work also don&#039;t afford the opportunities to start your own business that being expert in mining or oil  geology provides. Several of my old friends from the oil business became quite wealthy as independent operators.  Limiting a department to only academic pursuits certainly doesn&#039;t serve the students or society well. All state universities in the Oil Patch - Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana - offer petroleum geology as the backbones of their geology schools. A service to their states&#039; needs.  Colorado was never a big oil producer, but with the advent of fracking, it has needs for geologists as well. Why shouldn&#039;t some of them be produced by its university?

Our colleges are not even trying to provide education that leads to productive employment for a large number of their graduates. With the astronomical growth of  government provided student loans, they are harming both their students and society at large.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco: &#8220;….but the geology department in the college of arts and sciences is properly a thing distinct from the school of mines.&#8221;</p>
<p>A geology specialization outside of mining and oil exploration leadsto two possible jobs &#8211; teaching geology or working for the government. Both necessary careers, but the job openings are limited  in comparison to mining and oil exploration.  Teaching and government work also don&#8217;t afford the opportunities to start your own business that being expert in mining or oil  geology provides. Several of my old friends from the oil business became quite wealthy as independent operators.  Limiting a department to only academic pursuits certainly doesn&#8217;t serve the students or society well. All state universities in the Oil Patch &#8211; Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana &#8211; offer petroleum geology as the backbones of their geology schools. A service to their states&#8217; needs.  Colorado was never a big oil producer, but with the advent of fracking, it has needs for geologists as well. Why shouldn&#8217;t some of them be produced by its university?</p>
<p>Our colleges are not even trying to provide education that leads to productive employment for a large number of their graduates. With the astronomical growth of  government provided student loans, they are harming both their students and society at large.</p>
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