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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo on November 9, 2019 at 3:59 pm said:	

Artfldgr:

I think that style and substance can work synergistically. Style helps people get interested and keeps them reading, and substance backs up style and makes the whole thing worthwhile. If I had to have one without the other, I suppose I’d choose substance. But why choose? Both is better.


oh i agree... 
but if you require both... style isnt my forte
if it was, i woud be wealthy and able to sell my ideas

its like saying dance is great but only if you can go on toe
what about those who cant? 

i can do style
i can do substance
but tend not to be able to do both in history given that the people i am writing to dont know it for me to be able to let go and be funny with references 

so... their lack of knowing blows style
so does lack of space to do both if educating is part of it

kind of sucks
really sucks, given i can show you how to make a chip that can search IOT data for 100,000 255 targets that works in &quot;clock speed + (255X8)&quot;
if i could describe that well enough... well, i would be arguing with steyer directly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo on November 9, 2019 at 3:59 pm said:	</p>
<p>Artfldgr:</p>
<p>I think that style and substance can work synergistically. Style helps people get interested and keeps them reading, and substance backs up style and makes the whole thing worthwhile. If I had to have one without the other, I suppose I’d choose substance. But why choose? Both is better.</p>
<p>oh i agree&#8230;<br />
but if you require both&#8230; style isnt my forte<br />
if it was, i woud be wealthy and able to sell my ideas</p>
<p>its like saying dance is great but only if you can go on toe<br />
what about those who cant? </p>
<p>i can do style<br />
i can do substance<br />
but tend not to be able to do both in history given that the people i am writing to dont know it for me to be able to let go and be funny with references </p>
<p>so&#8230; their lack of knowing blows style<br />
so does lack of space to do both if educating is part of it</p>
<p>kind of sucks<br />
really sucks, given i can show you how to make a chip that can search IOT data for 100,000 255 targets that works in &#8220;clock speed + (255X8)&#8221;<br />
if i could describe that well enough&#8230; well, i would be arguing with steyer directly</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 18:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As far as I can see, &quot;plastic straw&quot; Bloomberg has absolutely nothing to recommend him. 

It looks to me like entering the race is some sort of vanity project for him.

Or, alternatively, as someone has asserted, the peculiarities of election funding laws might allow him to donate millions of his own money to his &quot;campaign,&quot; later on drop out of the race, and direct whatever is left of the money he donated to his own campaign, and any other money his campaign might have collected from anyone else, to any other candidate he wishes.  

Thus, getting around the campaign finance laws that would not have allowed him to donate hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to a candidate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can see, &#8220;plastic straw&#8221; Bloomberg has absolutely nothing to recommend him. </p>
<p>It looks to me like entering the race is some sort of vanity project for him.</p>
<p>Or, alternatively, as someone has asserted, the peculiarities of election funding laws might allow him to donate millions of his own money to his &#8220;campaign,&#8221; later on drop out of the race, and direct whatever is left of the money he donated to his own campaign, and any other money his campaign might have collected from anyone else, to any other candidate he wishes.  </p>
<p>Thus, getting around the campaign finance laws that would not have allowed him to donate hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to a candidate.</p>
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		By: Yankee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yankee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 14:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope Bloomberg gets into the race, as I feel that there is a need for more &quot;normal&quot; candidates out there.  As a prominent businessman and former NYC mayor, he is as qualified as any other person.

I still think that the best Democratic candidate might be a Washington outsider (governor, businessman, or general) who decides to go big, with stealing Trump&#039;s nationalist policies, and then repudiating the excesses of the Left (everything from PC to socialism to impeachment).  Why not try winning by attacking the Left from the center?  It&#039;s so crazy it just might work!

And regarding Michael Bloomberg, I also wonder if the mainstream of the country really wants a Jewish President.  He may have problems getting support outside of the northeast region.  Bernie Sanders, in comparison, has been around a lot longer politically and is much better known, and so his Jewish background is not a major identifying factor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Bloomberg gets into the race, as I feel that there is a need for more &#8220;normal&#8221; candidates out there.  As a prominent businessman and former NYC mayor, he is as qualified as any other person.</p>
<p>I still think that the best Democratic candidate might be a Washington outsider (governor, businessman, or general) who decides to go big, with stealing Trump&#8217;s nationalist policies, and then repudiating the excesses of the Left (everything from PC to socialism to impeachment).  Why not try winning by attacking the Left from the center?  It&#8217;s so crazy it just might work!</p>
<p>And regarding Michael Bloomberg, I also wonder if the mainstream of the country really wants a Jewish President.  He may have problems getting support outside of the northeast region.  Bernie Sanders, in comparison, has been around a lot longer politically and is much better known, and so his Jewish background is not a major identifying factor.</p>
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		By: Yankee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yankee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr could have a fun project by setting up an Instagram account, scanning in and posting some old photos, and then a few lines of text to go in with each picture.  From what I&#039;ve seen, there&#039;s a lot of interest for things like that out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr could have a fun project by setting up an Instagram account, scanning in and posting some old photos, and then a few lines of text to go in with each picture.  From what I&#8217;ve seen, there&#8217;s a lot of interest for things like that out there.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Cow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Cow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 08:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I worked for Telerate at the time of the purchase by DJ. They had rejected the opportunity to buy for a significant amount less 2 years earlier, and somehow felt that they were forced into the deal. All press included a statement implying that losses were did to Telerate. Hell, when the DJ chopper fell into the river, the joke was &#039;how are they going to blame Telerate for THAT?&#039;

I still don&#039;t understand how Bloomberg was elected mayor the third time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for Telerate at the time of the purchase by DJ. They had rejected the opportunity to buy for a significant amount less 2 years earlier, and somehow felt that they were forced into the deal. All press included a statement implying that losses were did to Telerate. Hell, when the DJ chopper fell into the river, the joke was &#8216;how are they going to blame Telerate for THAT?&#8217;</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t understand how Bloomberg was elected mayor the third time.</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 03:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Bloomberg is 
not
woke
enough.
How ironic that SJWs could become de facto guarantors of Trump&#039;s reelection by pushing Democrats into insane fringe positions that inspire existential dread in the minds of normal unwoke voters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Bloomberg is<br />
not<br />
woke<br />
enough.<br />
How ironic that SJWs could become de facto guarantors of Trump&#8217;s reelection by pushing Democrats into insane fringe positions that inspire existential dread in the minds of normal unwoke voters.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2019 20:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr:

I think that style and substance can work synergistically. Style helps people get interested and keeps them reading, and substance backs up style and makes the whole thing worthwhile.  If I had to have one without the other, I suppose I&#039;d choose substance. But why choose? Both is better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr:</p>
<p>I think that style and substance can work synergistically. Style helps people get interested and keeps them reading, and substance backs up style and makes the whole thing worthwhile.  If I had to have one without the other, I suppose I&#8217;d choose substance. But why choose? Both is better.</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2019 20:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, Kai, a monied Leftie like Bloomie would be likely victorious over Trump, which simply once again shows how deep the rot is within the USA.
I am not skeptical about Bloomberg. I am frightened about our national future. The Gramscian Left has won: Globalism=Good, Nationalism=Bad. But globalism means planetary rule by communist China forever. This is not a Star Wars movie!

In Norway, that was the whole point of the slaughter of the young entitled Leftist elitists by Anders Breivik, though no one has had the bravado to say so other than to call him a right-winger. That was a one-man revolt. Must a violent revolution come here? Jefferson and other Founders surely anticipated that eventuality: Water the Tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Kai, a monied Leftie like Bloomie would be likely victorious over Trump, which simply once again shows how deep the rot is within the USA.<br />
I am not skeptical about Bloomberg. I am frightened about our national future. The Gramscian Left has won: Globalism=Good, Nationalism=Bad. But globalism means planetary rule by communist China forever. This is not a Star Wars movie!</p>
<p>In Norway, that was the whole point of the slaughter of the young entitled Leftist elitists by Anders Breivik, though no one has had the bravado to say so other than to call him a right-winger. That was a one-man revolt. Must a violent revolution come here? Jefferson and other Founders surely anticipated that eventuality: Water the Tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2019 19:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bloomberg had one good idea about 40 years ago- terminals on stock-traders’ desks for real-time data, which led to the Bloomberg network and his current net worth of $53 billion.

that wasnt his.. 
before he even existed doing that, i had a dow jones terminal in my parents house - it was of course not hooked up... but i aquired it..   

the point was to dismantle it and check it out... which i did.. 
it had wire memory.. how cool is that?  

Dow jones had their own terminals that were used at their offices. 
but getting data out for others, that was Telerate!

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Telerate Systems Inc. was founded in 1969 by Neil S. Hirsch, a 21-year old college dropout who was working as a clerk in a Merrill Lynch brokerage office.&lt;/b&gt; While working at the firm, Hirsch became fascinated with the electronic stock quote monitors. He noted that stock quotes were readily available on computerized terminals, but that information about the prices of other money market instruments could only be obtained by calling around to various financial industry firms that bought and sold those instruments. Hirsch&#039;s innovation was to expand the computerized communications mechanisms to include other areas of the financial industry.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
History. In 1981 American businessman and politician Michael Bloomberg founded the company that became Bloomberg LP (originally named Innovative Market Systems). Initially, the company sold computer terminals to Wall Street investment banks that included financial data about stocks, bonds, and other investments.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

NOT very original... 

&lt;b&gt;The needs of traders and portfolio managers were however neglected by both &quot;Reuters&quot; and &quot;Dow Jones Telerate&quot; which allowed a new niche financial data provider, Bloomberg to start taking market share with its Bloomberg terminal. Within Dow Jones, Telerate was gradually marginalized and the services were eventually integrated with those of Dow Jones Newswire. &lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
In 1998 Bridge Information Systems, then the fourth largest provider of market information services behind Reuters, Dow Jones, and Bloomberg, agreed to buy the troubled Telerate business from Dow Jones for $510 million. The Dow Jones board had urged the sale despite taking a significant loss due what it perceived as insurmountable competition from its two biggest rivals, Reuters and Bloomberg, particularly as Telerate lacked the more complex historical pricing information and other analytical software that investors were looking for. Bridge Information Systems faced competition in the acquisition from Cantor Fitzgerald which was interested in re-acquiring interest in the business. However, the sale was completed with Bridge, and it was renamed Bridge Telerate

In 2001, Bridge Telerate was sold to MoneyLine Network as part of the Bridge Information Systems bankruptcy proceedings for just $10 million. As part of the deal, MoneyLine reached an agreement with Reuters for the collection and aggregation of market data and other services for a three to four year transition period. It also reached an agreement with SAVVIS Communications Corporation for network services, so that it could continue to offer Telerate services. The business was renamed MoneyLine Telerate. However, the relationship with Reuters was troublesome and would lead to a major dispute with Reuters in 2003 when Reuters threatened to cut Telerate&#039;s data feeds, which was only narrowly avoided.

The business continued to decline, and by 2005 the company was no longer publicly traded and was now majority owned by One Equity Partners, the domestic venture capital of JPMorgan Chase. In June of that year, One Equity Partners sold the remains of the Moneyline Telerate business to Reuters for approximately $175 million. This saw the end of the Telerate brand as Reuters absorbed the business into its own market data unit. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

having a memory that works like this and makes it easy to get the details others dont even know where to look... is quite the advantage... even when trading.. which i do...  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg had one good idea about 40 years ago- terminals on stock-traders’ desks for real-time data, which led to the Bloomberg network and his current net worth of $53 billion.</p>
<p>that wasnt his..<br />
before he even existed doing that, i had a dow jones terminal in my parents house &#8211; it was of course not hooked up&#8230; but i aquired it..   </p>
<p>the point was to dismantle it and check it out&#8230; which i did..<br />
it had wire memory.. how cool is that?  </p>
<p>Dow jones had their own terminals that were used at their offices.<br />
but getting data out for others, that was Telerate!</p>
<blockquote><p>
<b>Telerate Systems Inc. was founded in 1969 by Neil S. Hirsch, a 21-year old college dropout who was working as a clerk in a Merrill Lynch brokerage office.</b> While working at the firm, Hirsch became fascinated with the electronic stock quote monitors. He noted that stock quotes were readily available on computerized terminals, but that information about the prices of other money market instruments could only be obtained by calling around to various financial industry firms that bought and sold those instruments. Hirsch&#8217;s innovation was to expand the computerized communications mechanisms to include other areas of the financial industry.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>
History. In 1981 American businessman and politician Michael Bloomberg founded the company that became Bloomberg LP (originally named Innovative Market Systems). Initially, the company sold computer terminals to Wall Street investment banks that included financial data about stocks, bonds, and other investments.
</p></blockquote>
<p>NOT very original&#8230; </p>
<p><b>The needs of traders and portfolio managers were however neglected by both &#8220;Reuters&#8221; and &#8220;Dow Jones Telerate&#8221; which allowed a new niche financial data provider, Bloomberg to start taking market share with its Bloomberg terminal. Within Dow Jones, Telerate was gradually marginalized and the services were eventually integrated with those of Dow Jones Newswire. </b></p>
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In 1998 Bridge Information Systems, then the fourth largest provider of market information services behind Reuters, Dow Jones, and Bloomberg, agreed to buy the troubled Telerate business from Dow Jones for $510 million. The Dow Jones board had urged the sale despite taking a significant loss due what it perceived as insurmountable competition from its two biggest rivals, Reuters and Bloomberg, particularly as Telerate lacked the more complex historical pricing information and other analytical software that investors were looking for. Bridge Information Systems faced competition in the acquisition from Cantor Fitzgerald which was interested in re-acquiring interest in the business. However, the sale was completed with Bridge, and it was renamed Bridge Telerate</p>
<p>In 2001, Bridge Telerate was sold to MoneyLine Network as part of the Bridge Information Systems bankruptcy proceedings for just $10 million. As part of the deal, MoneyLine reached an agreement with Reuters for the collection and aggregation of market data and other services for a three to four year transition period. It also reached an agreement with SAVVIS Communications Corporation for network services, so that it could continue to offer Telerate services. The business was renamed MoneyLine Telerate. However, the relationship with Reuters was troublesome and would lead to a major dispute with Reuters in 2003 when Reuters threatened to cut Telerate&#8217;s data feeds, which was only narrowly avoided.</p>
<p>The business continued to decline, and by 2005 the company was no longer publicly traded and was now majority owned by One Equity Partners, the domestic venture capital of JPMorgan Chase. In June of that year, One Equity Partners sold the remains of the Moneyline Telerate business to Reuters for approximately $175 million. This saw the end of the Telerate brand as Reuters absorbed the business into its own market data unit. </p></blockquote>
<p>having a memory that works like this and makes it easy to get the details others dont even know where to look&#8230; is quite the advantage&#8230; even when trading.. which i do&#8230;  🙂</p>
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		By: Kai Akker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kai Akker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2019 19:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The skepticism here about Bloomberg&#039;s chances surprises me. He is head, shoulders and torso above all the other Democratic candidates so far. And he has a lot of money, btw, did anyone mention that besides him? Yes, the primary voters are lefty-left, but this guy has plenty of left-wing ideas while still being a brain and a half ahead of Elizabeth Warren, much less Joe B. He would give Trump quite a battle, IMO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The skepticism here about Bloomberg&#8217;s chances surprises me. He is head, shoulders and torso above all the other Democratic candidates so far. And he has a lot of money, btw, did anyone mention that besides him? Yes, the primary voters are lefty-left, but this guy has plenty of left-wing ideas while still being a brain and a half ahead of Elizabeth Warren, much less Joe B. He would give Trump quite a battle, IMO.</p>
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