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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/04/chronicle-of-a-porch-thief/#comment-2463959</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The poor, who are thieves instead of beggars by choice, should be at some kind of job.  Either a volunteer National Service job, or an involuntary out-of-city infrastructure support job.

Or in jail.  Where such a jail is not to rehabilitate the thieves, but to protect the innocent from their &quot;free&quot; thieving.  Yes, after the third of &quot;3 strikes you&#039;re out&quot;.  At a minimum security prison at first.

It&#039;s mental / cultural illness and needs to be actively and consistently fought against with both legal and cultural punishments, like shame and ostracization.   

But too many rich elite prefer blaming &quot;society&quot; rather than the individuals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The poor, who are thieves instead of beggars by choice, should be at some kind of job.  Either a volunteer National Service job, or an involuntary out-of-city infrastructure support job.</p>
<p>Or in jail.  Where such a jail is not to rehabilitate the thieves, but to protect the innocent from their &#8220;free&#8221; thieving.  Yes, after the third of &#8220;3 strikes you&#8217;re out&#8221;.  At a minimum security prison at first.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s mental / cultural illness and needs to be actively and consistently fought against with both legal and cultural punishments, like shame and ostracization.   </p>
<p>But too many rich elite prefer blaming &#8220;society&#8221; rather than the individuals.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/04/chronicle-of-a-porch-thief/#comment-2463920</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2019 05:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, back at the main topic - we are awaiting our new purchase of the Benchsentry package protection box, which we bought from the inventor himself during a special event at our local ACE hardware store.

We had to take our place in line, as they are getting orders faster than they can build the box, but should have it before Thanksgiving.  The display prototype was quite impressive. $499 online price; we got it cheaper at the time, of course.
Since we get packages nearly everyday, it seemed like a good idea.
Haven&#039;t lost one yet, but I suspect it&#039;s only a matter of time before the pirates hit our neighborhood.  They are rampant in the rest of Denver metro.

https://benchsentry.com/

Never have a package stolen. Ever.
• Smart electric lock
• Can be bolted to your patio
• Accessed by all delivery services (USPS, FedEx, UPS)
• HOA approved bench design
• Weatherproof and UV resistant
• 7 cubic feet of capacity
• Android and Apple mobile app control]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, back at the main topic &#8211; we are awaiting our new purchase of the Benchsentry package protection box, which we bought from the inventor himself during a special event at our local ACE hardware store.</p>
<p>We had to take our place in line, as they are getting orders faster than they can build the box, but should have it before Thanksgiving.  The display prototype was quite impressive. $499 online price; we got it cheaper at the time, of course.<br />
Since we get packages nearly everyday, it seemed like a good idea.<br />
Haven&#8217;t lost one yet, but I suspect it&#8217;s only a matter of time before the pirates hit our neighborhood.  They are rampant in the rest of Denver metro.</p>
<p><a href="https://benchsentry.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://benchsentry.com/</a></p>
<p>Never have a package stolen. Ever.<br />
• Smart electric lock<br />
• Can be bolted to your patio<br />
• Accessed by all delivery services (USPS, FedEx, UPS)<br />
• HOA approved bench design<br />
• Weatherproof and UV resistant<br />
• 7 cubic feet of capacity<br />
• Android and Apple mobile app control</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/04/chronicle-of-a-porch-thief/#comment-2463919</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2019 05:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley on November 5, 2019 at 4:10 pm said:
I too miss the good ole days when foreigners could snatch or kill American citizens at their profound risk.

When did that end?&lt;b&gt; Or was it ever really true?&lt;/b&gt;
* * * 
&quot;Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead!&quot; sort of thing, you mean?

The movie &quot;The Wind and the Lion&quot; is one of my all time favorites, but it *ahem* adapts the real story for dramatic and romantic affect.

It&#039;s still a great line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley on November 5, 2019 at 4:10 pm said:<br />
I too miss the good ole days when foreigners could snatch or kill American citizens at their profound risk.</p>
<p>When did that end?<b> Or was it ever really true?</b><br />
* * *<br />
&#8220;Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead!&#8221; sort of thing, you mean?</p>
<p>The movie &#8220;The Wind and the Lion&#8221; is one of my all time favorites, but it *ahem* adapts the real story for dramatic and romantic affect.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still a great line.</p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/04/chronicle-of-a-porch-thief/#comment-2463911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie near Chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2019 03:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[re Ann&#039;s comment:  The relevance is obvious.  The accuracy or source isn&#039;t..   
i&#039;d say, it&#039;s input: FWIW.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Ann&#8217;s comment:  The relevance is obvious.  The accuracy or source isn&#8217;t..<br />
i&#8217;d say, it&#8217;s input: FWIW.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/04/chronicle-of-a-porch-thief/#comment-2463856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine: Thanks for your Post Office story. 

I too miss the good ole days when foreigners could snatch or kill American citizens at their profound risk.

When did that end? Or was it ever really true?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine: Thanks for your Post Office story. </p>
<p>I too miss the good ole days when foreigners could snatch or kill American citizens at their profound risk.</p>
<p>When did that end? Or was it ever really true?</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2019 20:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Make that $675.00 not $650.00, and so on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that $675.00 not $650.00, and so on.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/04/chronicle-of-a-porch-thief/#comment-2463853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2019 20:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine, there&#039;s been an expatriate Mormon community in Mexico for a long time.  Mitt Romney&#039;s father was born in Mexico in such a community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine, there&#8217;s been an expatriate Mormon community in Mexico for a long time.  Mitt Romney&#8217;s father was born in Mexico in such a community.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/04/chronicle-of-a-porch-thief/#comment-2463852</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2019 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay and Huxley--

I, too, had picked up the impression, from somewhere or the other, about how hard-nosed, on the hunt, and effective the U.S. Postal Inspector’s Service was.

But, here is my personal experience with the U.S. Postal Inspector&#039;s Service, and their total lack of interest in doing anything to identify and prosecute scammers who violate Federal law--


To my surprise, around 15 years ago, I received one of those large, expensive overnight letters and, when I opened it up, out fluttered what appeared to be a postal money order, made out to me, as I recall, for $750.00 dollars.  

Included in this packet was a letter telling me that, because of my sterling reputation in the business community (me not having any business at all) I had been chosen to be a “secret shopper,” and I was to take this U.S. postal money order to my bank, cash it, take 10% of the money as my fee for performing this secret shopper service, and take the remaining $650.00 dollars in cash to the local Walmart, wire this money to the person and address they supplied, and I was then to write up my “secret shopper evaluation” of how the transaction went, mail it back to the person who had sent me this “opportunity,” and I would then be given a new secret shopper assignment at the same rate of pay.   

Suspicious ol’ me looked around on the Internet, and immediately discovered that this “secret shopper scam” was a common one. 

Th legit looking “postal money order”—silver security line and all—was a fake.   

The bank would cash it alright,  but it could take up to a couple of months for processing at the bank to identify this postal money order as fake and, when they did, I would be looking at bank fraud charges, and owe the bank the entire $750.00 dollars plus various other penalty charges, $650.00 dollars of which I had long since wired to the scammers.   

After I read this, I handled the paperwork and “U.S. postal money order” with gloves to preserve any fingerprints, and called the U.S. Postal Inspectors Office listed in the Phone Book.

I explained what had happened, told them that I had this envelope, letter, and fake postal money order—which they might be able to use to identify the scammers—and was told by the Postal Inspector employee on the phone that they had no interest at all in investigating this matter, and that I could just throw away the scammer’s envelope, paperwork, and fake postal money order.    

P.S.—I kept that paperwork for some time, hoping that there had been some mistake, that the Postal Inspectors would have a change of heart, call me up and want it all, but a year or two later, as I was throwing the envelope and its contents out, another postal money order, again made out to me for for $750.00, fluttered out.

So--if I took the bait--I wasn’t just supposed to be scammed out of $675.00 dollars, I was supposed to be scammed out of $1,350.00 dollars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay and Huxley&#8211;</p>
<p>I, too, had picked up the impression, from somewhere or the other, about how hard-nosed, on the hunt, and effective the U.S. Postal Inspector’s Service was.</p>
<p>But, here is my personal experience with the U.S. Postal Inspector&#8217;s Service, and their total lack of interest in doing anything to identify and prosecute scammers who violate Federal law&#8211;</p>
<p>To my surprise, around 15 years ago, I received one of those large, expensive overnight letters and, when I opened it up, out fluttered what appeared to be a postal money order, made out to me, as I recall, for $750.00 dollars.  </p>
<p>Included in this packet was a letter telling me that, because of my sterling reputation in the business community (me not having any business at all) I had been chosen to be a “secret shopper,” and I was to take this U.S. postal money order to my bank, cash it, take 10% of the money as my fee for performing this secret shopper service, and take the remaining $650.00 dollars in cash to the local Walmart, wire this money to the person and address they supplied, and I was then to write up my “secret shopper evaluation” of how the transaction went, mail it back to the person who had sent me this “opportunity,” and I would then be given a new secret shopper assignment at the same rate of pay.   </p>
<p>Suspicious ol’ me looked around on the Internet, and immediately discovered that this “secret shopper scam” was a common one. </p>
<p>Th legit looking “postal money order”—silver security line and all—was a fake.   </p>
<p>The bank would cash it alright,  but it could take up to a couple of months for processing at the bank to identify this postal money order as fake and, when they did, I would be looking at bank fraud charges, and owe the bank the entire $750.00 dollars plus various other penalty charges, $650.00 dollars of which I had long since wired to the scammers.   </p>
<p>After I read this, I handled the paperwork and “U.S. postal money order” with gloves to preserve any fingerprints, and called the U.S. Postal Inspectors Office listed in the Phone Book.</p>
<p>I explained what had happened, told them that I had this envelope, letter, and fake postal money order—which they might be able to use to identify the scammers—and was told by the Postal Inspector employee on the phone that they had no interest at all in investigating this matter, and that I could just throw away the scammer’s envelope, paperwork, and fake postal money order.    </p>
<p>P.S.—I kept that paperwork for some time, hoping that there had been some mistake, that the Postal Inspectors would have a change of heart, call me up and want it all, but a year or two later, as I was throwing the envelope and its contents out, another postal money order, again made out to me for for $750.00, fluttered out.</p>
<p>So&#8211;if I took the bait&#8211;I wasn’t just supposed to be scammed out of $675.00 dollars, I was supposed to be scammed out of $1,350.00 dollars.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/11/04/chronicle-of-a-porch-thief/#comment-2463849</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2019 20:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m tired of our citizens being attacked, all over the world.

From what I’ve read, in ancient times, when Rome was the predominant power, to be a “Citizen of Rome” conferred all sorts of benefits and really meant something, and anyone who attacked a “Citizen of Rome” could expect swift, brutal, and bloody retaliation from Roman military forces.   

Time, it seems to me, to revive that policy, to protect our citizens when they are abroad, so that anyone who attacks a “Citizen of the United States” can also expect our swift, brutal, and bloody military retaliation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m tired of our citizens being attacked, all over the world.</p>
<p>From what I’ve read, in ancient times, when Rome was the predominant power, to be a “Citizen of Rome” conferred all sorts of benefits and really meant something, and anyone who attacked a “Citizen of Rome” could expect swift, brutal, and bloody retaliation from Roman military forces.   </p>
<p>Time, it seems to me, to revive that policy, to protect our citizens when they are abroad, so that anyone who attacks a “Citizen of the United States” can also expect our swift, brutal, and bloody military retaliation.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2019 19:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;Mail theft is a felony. Why is it being described as a misdemeanor? The federal postal inspectors should have been involved. They take mail theft very seriously. Unless this is not USPS, but it is described as mail theft. Something fishy.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;and Neo:&lt;/i&gt;

It depends on the package and the area. Amazon often uses the USPS for the &quot;last mile&quot; part, since they are headed past your house every day, anyway, so they drop stuff off at the local mail facility and the USPS delivers it same day. I have never figured out what precisely triggers them to use UPS vs. USPS. It may be that all the doorstep deliveries are UPS, if they (all the USPS deliveries) are small enough to fit in one of the USPS main postal boxes (i.e., the &quot;package box&quot; often found next to a gang of individual boxes, which handles parcels up to ca. 40&quot;x40&quot;x40&quot;, or thereabouts, usually a stacked pair of two).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>Mail theft is a felony. Why is it being described as a misdemeanor? The federal postal inspectors should have been involved. They take mail theft very seriously. Unless this is not USPS, but it is described as mail theft. Something fishy.</i></p>
<p><i>and Neo:</i></p>
<p>It depends on the package and the area. Amazon often uses the USPS for the &#8220;last mile&#8221; part, since they are headed past your house every day, anyway, so they drop stuff off at the local mail facility and the USPS delivers it same day. I have never figured out what precisely triggers them to use UPS vs. USPS. It may be that all the doorstep deliveries are UPS, if they (all the USPS deliveries) are small enough to fit in one of the USPS main postal boxes (i.e., the &#8220;package box&#8221; often found next to a gang of individual boxes, which handles parcels up to ca. 40&#8243;x40&#8243;x40&#8243;, or thereabouts, usually a stacked pair of two).</p>
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