Comments on: Erdogan threatens to send in the migrants https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/ A blog about political change, among other things Sun, 13 Oct 2019 12:14:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: expat https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/#comment-2459023 Sun, 13 Oct 2019 12:14:38 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=90523#comment-2459023 Cicero,
It’s not completely true that 2rd generation Turks in Germany remain loyal to Turkey. I know some second generation assimilated Turks who don’t like what Erdogan is doing to the country. A year or two ago, there were reports that Turks were forming their own senior facilities here because the realized that the Turkey they left years ago is different from the homeland of their memories and that they were more at home here.
I’ve also read that Erdogan is getting pushback in Turkey because people don’t like the economic situation. Germany has for years resisted Turkey’s desire to join the EU, probably because of the free travel that would mean. And they remember now that a year or two after his election, Erdogan visited German mosques and told people not to assimilate. There is probably a big difference between Turks who live in smaller cities and those who live in enclaves in Berlin, Cologne, and Dortmund.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/#comment-2458996 Sun, 13 Oct 2019 04:58:35 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=90523#comment-2458996 via Power Line blog:
https://www.heritage.org/middle-east/commentary/trump-serious-about-syria-heres-what-you-must-always-remember

Also worth reading (both by J. E. Dyer):
https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/10/09/turkey-syria-and-the-kurds-a-nine-point-survey/

https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/10/07/quicklook-trumps-statement-on-turkey-and-the-kurdish-safe-zone-in-syria/

]]> By: Tom Grey https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/#comment-2458981 Sun, 13 Oct 2019 03:09:25 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=90523#comment-2458981 Lots of bluster going around.

Turkey may have its own demographic worries, as (poor) Kurdish birth rates are twice as high as (richer) Turkish birth rates:
https://www.ibtimes.com/kurdish-majority-turkey-within-one-generation-705466

Tho current trends in many countries might well NOT be good predictors of the future, we don’t have better ones.

]]> By: Cicero https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/#comment-2458950 Sat, 12 Oct 2019 23:49:42 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=90523#comment-2458950 Erdogan has long had the Euro’s measure: pure bluster. Germany imported Turks for mostly grunt work as their American-funded “economic miracle” began around 1950. These Turks, now in their 3rd generation, remain loyal to their homeland. Plus the millions of Syrian and Turkish “refugees” (all male, all clean and well-dressed in all the photos I’ve seen) more recently admitted, except to such “regressive” countries like Hungary and Poland.
The cradle of Western civilization is committing suicide instead of standing up to the Turks.
Erdogan’s threats are not hollow. The Ottoman Empire is being resurrected.

]]> By: sdferr https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/#comment-2458936 Sat, 12 Oct 2019 22:24:26 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=90523#comment-2458936 Then too, there’s The Four Lads, Ella & Bing, They Might Be Giants

or better, Raymond Scott and His Quintet.

]]> By: sdferr https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/#comment-2458926 Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:39:55 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=90523#comment-2458926 Turkish stories tolerably Europeanized:
Mozart slow [4:06], Mozart fast [2:06]

Beethoven x 8, [stick around (or just jump ahead) for the deranged version at 2:26]

Brubeck [6:46]

]]> By: Scott Robinson https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/#comment-2458920 Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:05:52 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=90523#comment-2458920 Time for Turkexit?

]]> By: MBunge https://thenewneo.com/2019/10/12/erdogan-threatens-to-send-in-the-migrants/#comment-2458910 Sat, 12 Oct 2019 20:24:50 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=90523#comment-2458910 I don’t want to sound like one of those incel losers but one of the things going on seems to be a feminized Western culture struggling with a resurgence of machismo. We have forgotten that the concept of “the gentleman” included the idea that he could beat some ass if necessary.

Mike

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