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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 23:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And it explains why the media constantly bolstered him as the Maverick. PillowC and company should have known how many skeletons was in this guy&#039;s closet and how easy he would be to leverage.

Palin, for all her strengths and weaknesses, wasn&#039;t considered nearly his equal in the &quot;we got blackmail on you&quot; thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it explains why the media constantly bolstered him as the Maverick. PillowC and company should have known how many skeletons was in this guy&#8217;s closet and how easy he would be to leverage.</p>
<p>Palin, for all her strengths and weaknesses, wasn&#8217;t considered nearly his equal in the &#8220;we got blackmail on you&#8221; thing.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 23:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;This was the first betrayal, in what has become a long, long list of betrayals, and a pretty unforgettable and unforgivable one at that .&lt;/b&gt;

Wait until you figure out the Deep State&#039;s connections to 9/11.

Cynical? Heh. Not compared to those of us in the know.

&lt;b&gt;Any discussion of John McCain always came around to his military service and his having been a POW who had been tortured, and what an “honorable man” he was. Yet, we all saw how–despite him campaigning on it for years, and promising to vote for the repeal of Obamacare–McCain very dramatically and vengefully cast the decisive no vote that doomed that repeal.&lt;/b&gt;

There&#039;s another side to McCain&#039;s military history. Let&#039;s see if I can find out the link.

http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/john-mccain-was-not-hero-obituary-war-racism-sexism

It would explain why he got so angry towards Bush II due to some pac ad ran about McCain&#039;s military record. He is way too triggered over it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This was the first betrayal, in what has become a long, long list of betrayals, and a pretty unforgettable and unforgivable one at that .</b></p>
<p>Wait until you figure out the Deep State&#8217;s connections to 9/11.</p>
<p>Cynical? Heh. Not compared to those of us in the know.</p>
<p><b>Any discussion of John McCain always came around to his military service and his having been a POW who had been tortured, and what an “honorable man” he was. Yet, we all saw how–despite him campaigning on it for years, and promising to vote for the repeal of Obamacare–McCain very dramatically and vengefully cast the decisive no vote that doomed that repeal.</b></p>
<p>There&#8217;s another side to McCain&#8217;s military history. Let&#8217;s see if I can find out the link.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/john-mccain-was-not-hero-obituary-war-racism-sexism" rel="nofollow ugc">https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/john-mccain-was-not-hero-obituary-war-racism-sexism</a></p>
<p>It would explain why he got so angry towards Bush II due to some pac ad ran about McCain&#8217;s military record. He is way too triggered over it.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2019 16:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;https://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/rick-santellis-rant-videotranscript/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is a transcript and video&lt;/a&gt; for Rick Santelli&#039;s speech from the floor of Chicago CME on Feb. 19th, 2009.  I remember watching it live.  This was shortly after the Obama White House issued it&#039;s first one or two sets of directives.

Some days prior CNBC had a lengthy interview with Warren Buffett, a vocal Obama supporter, who specifically and reluctantly repudiated all of the Obama directives except one, as bad economic policy.

Here is a section from the Santelli transcript:
&lt;blockquote&gt;JOE KERNEN: Hey, Rick… Oh, boy. They’re like putty in your hands. Did you hear…?

SANTELLI: No they’re not, Joe. They’re not like putty in our hands. This is America! &lt;b&gt;How many of you people want to pay for your neighbor’s mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can’t pay their bills? Raise their hand.&lt;/b&gt;
(Booing)
President Obama, are you listening?

TRADER: &lt;b&gt;How ’bout we all stop paying our mortgage? It’s a moral hazard.&lt;/b&gt;

KERNEN: It’s like mob rule here. I’m getting scared. I’m glad I’m…

CARL QUINTANILLA: Get some bricks and bats…

SANTELLI: Don’t get scared, Joe. They’re already scaring you. You know, Cuba used to have mansions and a relatively decent economy. They moved from the individual to the collective. Now, they’re driving ’54 Chevys, maybe the last great car to come out of Detroit.

KERNEN: They’re driving them on water, too, which is a little strange to watch.

SANTELLI: There you go.

KERNEN: Hey Rick, how about the notion that, Wilbur pointed out, you can go down to 2% on the mortgage…

SANTELLI: You could go down to -2%. They can’t afford the house.

KERNEN: …and still have 40%, and still have 40% not be able to do it. So why are they in the house? Why are we trying to keep them in the house?

SANTELLI: I know Mr. Summers is a great economist, but boy, I’d love the answer to that one.

REBECCA QUICK: Wow. Wilbur, you get people fired up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Notice how the other CNBC hosts immediately start referring to it as a mob action.  Also, that guy Wilbur, is Wilbur Ross a whale investor only at that time and the current Sec. of Commerce.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/rick-santellis-rant-videotranscript/" rel="nofollow">Here is a transcript and video</a> for Rick Santelli&#8217;s speech from the floor of Chicago CME on Feb. 19th, 2009.  I remember watching it live.  This was shortly after the Obama White House issued it&#8217;s first one or two sets of directives.</p>
<p>Some days prior CNBC had a lengthy interview with Warren Buffett, a vocal Obama supporter, who specifically and reluctantly repudiated all of the Obama directives except one, as bad economic policy.</p>
<p>Here is a section from the Santelli transcript:</p>
<blockquote><p>JOE KERNEN: Hey, Rick… Oh, boy. They’re like putty in your hands. Did you hear…?</p>
<p>SANTELLI: No they’re not, Joe. They’re not like putty in our hands. This is America! <b>How many of you people want to pay for your neighbor’s mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can’t pay their bills? Raise their hand.</b><br />
(Booing)<br />
President Obama, are you listening?</p>
<p>TRADER: <b>How ’bout we all stop paying our mortgage? It’s a moral hazard.</b></p>
<p>KERNEN: It’s like mob rule here. I’m getting scared. I’m glad I’m…</p>
<p>CARL QUINTANILLA: Get some bricks and bats…</p>
<p>SANTELLI: Don’t get scared, Joe. They’re already scaring you. You know, Cuba used to have mansions and a relatively decent economy. They moved from the individual to the collective. Now, they’re driving ’54 Chevys, maybe the last great car to come out of Detroit.</p>
<p>KERNEN: They’re driving them on water, too, which is a little strange to watch.</p>
<p>SANTELLI: There you go.</p>
<p>KERNEN: Hey Rick, how about the notion that, Wilbur pointed out, you can go down to 2% on the mortgage…</p>
<p>SANTELLI: You could go down to -2%. They can’t afford the house.</p>
<p>KERNEN: …and still have 40%, and still have 40% not be able to do it. So why are they in the house? Why are we trying to keep them in the house?</p>
<p>SANTELLI: I know Mr. Summers is a great economist, but boy, I’d love the answer to that one.</p>
<p>REBECCA QUICK: Wow. Wilbur, you get people fired up.</p></blockquote>
<p>Notice how the other CNBC hosts immediately start referring to it as a mob action.  Also, that guy Wilbur, is Wilbur Ross a whale investor only at that time and the current Sec. of Commerce.</p>
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		By: OldTexan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2019 01:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My friends, we are in a full blown big old mess of a civilization going through a change.  I was at the 2009 SouthFork Ranch 4th of July Tea Party Celebration and what I saw was a whole lot of good Americans, each with their own agenda gathering together for the largest up to date Tea Party PARTY ever.  Lots of good folk, all sorts of people rich and poor and plenty with different pigment of skin and background and some how we mostly went silent until we voted for Trump.  Can we do it again?  I certainly hope so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friends, we are in a full blown big old mess of a civilization going through a change.  I was at the 2009 SouthFork Ranch 4th of July Tea Party Celebration and what I saw was a whole lot of good Americans, each with their own agenda gathering together for the largest up to date Tea Party PARTY ever.  Lots of good folk, all sorts of people rich and poor and plenty with different pigment of skin and background and some how we mostly went silent until we voted for Trump.  Can we do it again?  I certainly hope so.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Only when lies and Trump hate / Rep hate mean they lose, will they change.&quot;

A nice thought. A rational, sensible assumption. 

But I&#039;m not sure about that. Not at all....

...since when all is said and done, they have their principles.

(Like the Palestinians.)

They are right. They are virtuous. They have the media on-side and protecting them with an robust, resounding never-ending echo chamber. They cannot lose. 

They are invincible.

Long live the Resistance!!! (AKA, No one can force us to back away from our holy mission! No one. )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Only when lies and Trump hate / Rep hate mean they lose, will they change.&#8221;</p>
<p>A nice thought. A rational, sensible assumption. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not sure about that. Not at all&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;since when all is said and done, they have their principles.</p>
<p>(Like the Palestinians.)</p>
<p>They are right. They are virtuous. They have the media on-side and protecting them with an robust, resounding never-ending echo chamber. They cannot lose. </p>
<p>They are invincible.</p>
<p>Long live the Resistance!!! (AKA, No one can force us to back away from our holy mission! No one. )</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;We should help them change, by first helping them lose. --Tom Grey&lt;/i&gt;

Or as Gen. George S. Patton said:

&lt;i&gt;No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country.&lt;/i&gt;

Of course I only mean that figuratively.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We should help them change, by first helping them lose. &#8211;Tom Grey</i></p>
<p>Or as Gen. George S. Patton said:</p>
<p><i>No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country.</i></p>
<p>Of course I only mean that figuratively.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 17:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a related new article about how the gentlemanly faction of the GOP, the GOPe, can no longer win. 
https://spectator.us/romney-republicanism-never-win/ 

I believe Romney is becoming the leader, and the voice, of that GOPe &quot;good losers&quot; wing.  And he wants to be that kind of leader, plus gets lots of good Dem media press.  Any elected Rep in the Senate or the House, who speaks badly of a Rep President gets good Dem press.

The lack of Tea Party leadership was not as bad as having Reps who got elected with low tax support, then fail to deliver.

Before the Tea Party were bloggers supporting the PorkBusters, see this 2006 (under Bush) https://www.hoover.org/research/porkbusters 

Note that &quot;low spending&quot; Republicanism is currently dead.  The EU is running deficits and low interest, to get growth - often negative interest.  So is Japan. And China has low interest.  So it has been economically safe for the US to have high gov&#039;t spending of fiat money, essentially like printing money by adding $$ onto various accounts.  Much of that added money is going into asset price inflation, for houses and stocks; much of it is being invested in actual wealth creating new projects and new businesses, and new jobs. 

Trump did not campaign on, and has not produced much, deficit reduction - of reducing the amount spent by US federal gov&#039;t.  There were record amounts of taxes collected, but even larger amounts spent.

Why not have 0 taxes and just have the gov&#039;t print money?  &quot;Hyperinflation&quot; is the answer, but that only happens when there is some other currency, or gold or something of value that can be used instead of money.  Zimbabweans, and now Venezuelans, can use US $.   The US now has low cost of living inflation increases, but high asset price inflation.  It&#039;s not clear what that means - our economy has moved outside of &quot;economic history&quot;.  That means we don&#039;t know.  

I remember the Tea Party, support the Tea Party, and believe that the vast majority, 98% or so, of Tea Party supporters are also Trump supporters.  They still have a news site:
https://ussanews.com/News1/ 
The Tea Party&#039;s Front Page - an alternative to Breitbart that I like more.
Tho I&#039;m moving more towards The Epoch Times.

Lots of losing has made many, probably most, Tea Party supporters want to support a winner, more than be a good loser.

The Dems, too, will change -- if they lose enough.  2018, they won, so it&#039;s not a surprise that lies and Trump hate continues.  Only when lies and Trump hate / Rep hate mean they lose, will they change.
They should change, they&#039;re terrible.
We should help them change, by first helping them lose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a related new article about how the gentlemanly faction of the GOP, the GOPe, can no longer win.<br />
<a href="https://spectator.us/romney-republicanism-never-win/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://spectator.us/romney-republicanism-never-win/</a> </p>
<p>I believe Romney is becoming the leader, and the voice, of that GOPe &#8220;good losers&#8221; wing.  And he wants to be that kind of leader, plus gets lots of good Dem media press.  Any elected Rep in the Senate or the House, who speaks badly of a Rep President gets good Dem press.</p>
<p>The lack of Tea Party leadership was not as bad as having Reps who got elected with low tax support, then fail to deliver.</p>
<p>Before the Tea Party were bloggers supporting the PorkBusters, see this 2006 (under Bush) <a href="https://www.hoover.org/research/porkbusters" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.hoover.org/research/porkbusters</a> </p>
<p>Note that &#8220;low spending&#8221; Republicanism is currently dead.  The EU is running deficits and low interest, to get growth &#8211; often negative interest.  So is Japan. And China has low interest.  So it has been economically safe for the US to have high gov&#8217;t spending of fiat money, essentially like printing money by adding $$ onto various accounts.  Much of that added money is going into asset price inflation, for houses and stocks; much of it is being invested in actual wealth creating new projects and new businesses, and new jobs. </p>
<p>Trump did not campaign on, and has not produced much, deficit reduction &#8211; of reducing the amount spent by US federal gov&#8217;t.  There were record amounts of taxes collected, but even larger amounts spent.</p>
<p>Why not have 0 taxes and just have the gov&#8217;t print money?  &#8220;Hyperinflation&#8221; is the answer, but that only happens when there is some other currency, or gold or something of value that can be used instead of money.  Zimbabweans, and now Venezuelans, can use US $.   The US now has low cost of living inflation increases, but high asset price inflation.  It&#8217;s not clear what that means &#8211; our economy has moved outside of &#8220;economic history&#8221;.  That means we don&#8217;t know.  </p>
<p>I remember the Tea Party, support the Tea Party, and believe that the vast majority, 98% or so, of Tea Party supporters are also Trump supporters.  They still have a news site:<br />
<a href="https://ussanews.com/News1/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ussanews.com/News1/</a><br />
The Tea Party&#8217;s Front Page &#8211; an alternative to Breitbart that I like more.<br />
Tho I&#8217;m moving more towards The Epoch Times.</p>
<p>Lots of losing has made many, probably most, Tea Party supporters want to support a winner, more than be a good loser.</p>
<p>The Dems, too, will change &#8212; if they lose enough.  2018, they won, so it&#8217;s not a surprise that lies and Trump hate continues.  Only when lies and Trump hate / Rep hate mean they lose, will they change.<br />
They should change, they&#8217;re terrible.<br />
We should help them change, by first helping them lose.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 12:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No mystery here. 
From 2016...the GOP and lobbyists openly bragged about how they betrayed and bleed the Tea Party dry for profit. 
&quot;How We Killed the Tea Party&quot; 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/tea-party-pacs-ideas-death-214164]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mystery here.<br />
From 2016&#8230;the GOP and lobbyists openly bragged about how they betrayed and bleed the Tea Party dry for profit.<br />
&#8220;How We Killed the Tea Party&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/tea-party-pacs-ideas-death-214164" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/tea-party-pacs-ideas-death-214164</a></p>
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		By: Andy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 02:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There was an article that was written by a conservative publication during the 2016 election that neatly summarized things, &quot;Nobody cares, LOL&quot;. All the hysterics by the Democrats now fall on deaf years. They simply overplayed their hand, especially with Romney. The other thing is that too many Republicans have been called racist, KKK, Hitler, Nazi etc leading to only one response to Democrat vituperativeness, &quot;nobody cares, lol&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an article that was written by a conservative publication during the 2016 election that neatly summarized things, &#8220;Nobody cares, LOL&#8221;. All the hysterics by the Democrats now fall on deaf years. They simply overplayed their hand, especially with Romney. The other thing is that too many Republicans have been called racist, KKK, Hitler, Nazi etc leading to only one response to Democrat vituperativeness, &#8220;nobody cares, lol&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Robert Arvanitis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Arvanitis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 02:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember the Tea Party?  Hell yes. And it&#039;s blood cries out to us from the ground!]]></description>
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