Comments on: Schiff, have you no shame?

By: TommyJay

TommyJay — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 23:24:27 +0000

AesopFan,

It was a conversation between Woody Allen and Tony Roberts as they were walking down some street, in one of Allen’s many movies; maybe around the timeframe of “Manhattan?” I won’t attempt a paraphrase, given the state of my memory.

I’ve discovered that some films, a decade or more after their release, have been re-edited with the original theatrical release gone forever. It’s possible that a short scene has been disappeared. The Rabbi Sachs piece is a possibly different and better take-away, and more knowledgeable of Judaism than Woody Allen I’d guess.
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Artfldgr, I sometimes skip the super-long items, but that one was riveting.

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:16:28 +0000

Aesop, you dont know how much that means to me
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sorry your tired…

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 04:38:35 +0000

Artfldgr on October 3, 2019 at 7:55 am said:
Shame is a secondary emotion that originates in GUILT
Clinically, sociopaths have no guilt, have problems with modeling others thoughts, is the only condition you can learn, and mostly, normal people make excuses for.
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Artfldgr on October 3, 2019 at 8:33 am said:
I showed you the answers, …
10 years, i showed you what informs them… as if i worked for them (hint)
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I’m too tired to stand up right now, but I am applauding.
Your information about the Left, the Communists, the Feminists, and other aspects of the Dark State have been very educational.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 04:36:46 +0000

Tom Grey on October 3, 2019 at 7:58 am said:
More Reps should more often call out these Dem liars. Trump shouldn’t be the only Rep with a fighting spirit.
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Yeah, you would think they would have learned something from their shellacking in the primary. Even Lindsey Graham has backed off his Primal Scream at the Kavanaugh hearings.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 04:35:45 +0000

Tom Grey on October 3, 2019 at 8:26 pm said:
Roy is absolutely right.
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So, of course, the Democrats fall hook-line-and-sinker for the Left’s Antfa slander against Republicans and conservatives.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 04:34:14 +0000

TommyJay on October 3, 2019 at 10:38 pm said:
There was an old movie that I thought contained an interesting line about guilt and shame. Since I was never able find it, I’ll skip that part,
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Give us some clues!

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 04:33:27 +0000

Mike K on October 3, 2019 at 6:31 am said:
Now we have Warren and Bernie talking about a “Wealth Tax,” which might kill off a lot of Democrat fund raising.
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The “might” has become a “will” according to some articles this week.
Apparently they weren’t motivated to complain about her anti-wealth polemics until it looked like she might actually get the nomination.
I don’t know why Wall Street isn’t backing Trump already.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html
Wall Street Democratic donors warn the party: We’ll sit out, or back Trump, if you nominate Elizabeth Warren
PUBLISHED THU, SEP 26 201912:40 PM EDTUPDATED FRI, SEP 27 20199:29 AM EDT

By: Sam L.

Sam L. — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 03:19:48 +0000

No Democrat does!

By: TommyJay

TommyJay — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 02:38:59 +0000

There was an old movie that I thought contained an interesting line about guilt and shame. Since I was never able find it, I’ll skip that part, but at the time I found an interesting article by a rabbi who claimed that guilt is perhaps a somewhat unique aspect of Judeo-Christian culture. I thought it might have been Rabbi Spero, but it could have been Rabbi Sacks, as these are the only two names I recall from my readings.

This isn’t the original article, but it sounds very similar,

It was she [Ruth Benedict] who taught the distinction between shame cultures, like ancient Greece, and guilt cultures like Judaism and Christianity.
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In shame cultures what matters is what other people think of you: the embarrassment, the ignominy, the loss of face. Whereas in guilt cultures it’s what the inner voice of conscience tells you.
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The biggest difference is that in shame cultures, if we’re caught doing wrong, there’s a stain on our character that only time can erase. But guilt cultures make a sharp distinction between the doer and the deed, the sinner and the sin. That’s why guilt cultures focus on atonement and repentance, apology and forgiveness. The act was wrong, but on our character there’s no indelible stain.

In shame cultures, if you’ve done wrong, the first rule is, don’t be found out. If you are, then bluff your way through. Only admit when every other alternative has failed, because you’ll be disgraced for a very long time indeed.

The only thing Schiff would care about is being expelled from the House, or the very unlikely event of losing a reelection.

By: sdferr

sdferr — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 00:47:16 +0000

Schiff had the HSPCI hold closed testimony today interrogating a former US diplomat to Ukraine Kurt Volker. Schiff hoped to acquire something to use in his impeachment scam. Evidently, Volker’s testimony upheld Pres. Trump’s claims (“blowing massive holes” in Adam Schiff’s impeachment narrative says Rep. Zeldin). Committee Republicans are demanding the transcript be released. Schiff doesn’t seem to be accommodating, which says something all on its own.