Comments on: 9/11 and the NY Times: the airplanes were the guilty parties https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/ A blog about political change, among other things Fri, 13 Sep 2019 20:21:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455540 Fri, 13 Sep 2019 20:21:45 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455540 neo on September 13, 2019 at 12:03 am said:
AesopFan:

Something happened here, what it is ain’t exactly clear….
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LOL – haven’t heard that one in a long time!

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455508 Fri, 13 Sep 2019 18:00:59 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455508 At the last Episcopalian church I attended, there would always be some vague commemoration of 9-11 in which we would feel collective sorrow for unspecified terrorism. Even the term “9-11” couldn’t be mentioned, much less who “aimed” the airplanes.

In my emails to the politicized church mailing list I started referring to it as “The-Date-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named” after Voldemort in the Harry Potter books.

There was actually a guy on that mailing list who insisted Pope Benedict should have responded to Islamic terrorism according to the Dumbledore Principle: “What would Dumbledore do?” (Dumbledore was the chief wizard in the HP books.) The guy was rather disgruntled that I refused to take instruction from a children’s book of fantasy seriously.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455451 Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:03:11 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455451 AesopFan:

Something happened here, what it is ain’t exactly clear….

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455445 Fri, 13 Sep 2019 02:58:15 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455445 I’m not sure this update to the NYT story is an improvement; they still want to keep things in the passive tense, as if there wasn’t even somebody who did something.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/09/12/nyt-deletes-9-11-tweet-airplanes-took-aim-and-brought-down-the-world-trade-center/

The updated tweet to promote the story said, “18 years after nearly 3,000 people were lost, families of those killed in the terror attacks will gather at the 9/11 memorial.”

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455433 Fri, 13 Sep 2019 00:37:28 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455433 Dalrymple is brilliant.

AesopFan: Indeed. He’s written a lot and he’s never let me down. Always worth a read.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455399 Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:50:58 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455399 Really, just read the whole thing.
Dalrymple is brilliant.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455398 Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:44:58 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455398 More from Dalrymple, which I think can be extended from criminals to terrorists: “It’s all your fault some people did something.”

(after a plethora of examples)

Quite often they put me on warning that unless I find the cure for their behavior, or at least prescribe the drugs they demand, they are going to kill or maim someone. The responsibility when they do so will be mine, not theirs, for I knew what they were going to do, yet failed to prevent it. So their putative illness has not only explained and, therefore, absolved them from past misconduct, but it has exonerated them in advance from all future misconduct.

Moreover, by warning me of their intention to carry out further assaults, they have set themselves up to be victims rather than perpetrators. They told the authorities (me) what they were going to do, and yet the authorities (I, again) did nothing; and so when they return to prison after committing a further horrible crime, they will feel aggrieved that “the system,” represented by me, has once again let them down.

But were I to take the opposite tack and suggest preventive detention until such time as they could control their temper, they would be outraged at the injustice of it. What about habeas corpus? What about innocence until guilt is proven? And they deduce nothing from the fact that they can usually control their tempers in the presence of a sufficiently opposing force.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455389 Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:33:41 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455389 huxley on September 12, 2019 at 12:11 am said:
It was Theodore Dalrymple, a pseudonym for a British doctor, who hipped me to the passive voice in such situations with his 1994 article, “The Knife Went In,” based on his experiences working in a prison.
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This observation pretty well sums up the entirety of the Democratic Party’s platform, and a good chunk of the GOP’s.

“The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.” – Dalrymple

]]> By: Kate https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455319 Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:48:44 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455319 Good point, Snow on Pine. With cancer deaths of first responders, the number of fatalities is probably considerably above 3,000 by now.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/11/9-11-and-the-ny-times-the-airplanes-were-the-guilty-parties/#comment-2455314 Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:53:44 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89719#comment-2455314 Some people remember some things.

https://www.breitbart.com/local/2019/09/11/florida-students-climb-100-flights-stairs-honor-9-11-victims/

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