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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/02/what-happens-in-guatemala/#comment-2454154</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Saunders on September 3, 2019 at 5:14 pm said:
I’ve had several conversations on immigration with my lefty friends that go something like this:
* * *
Sounds about like the way they approach any issue, domestic or foreign.
L: There&#039;s a problem! It&#039;s a crisis! We have to do something!
R: We could do (a).
L: Bigot - racist - homophobe - meanie!
R: We could do (b).
L: Bigot - racist - homophobe - meanie!
...
R: We could do (z).
L: Bigot - racist - homophobe - meanie!
R: What is &lt;em&gt;your &lt;/em&gt;solution then?
L: There&#039;s a problem! It&#039;s a crisis! We have to do something!
(wanders away, when not screaming, cursing, throwing things, or hitting someone)

Ann&#039;s comment perfectly illustrates the Catch-22 that the Left excels in creating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Saunders on September 3, 2019 at 5:14 pm said:<br />
I’ve had several conversations on immigration with my lefty friends that go something like this:<br />
* * *<br />
Sounds about like the way they approach any issue, domestic or foreign.<br />
L: There&#8217;s a problem! It&#8217;s a crisis! We have to do something!<br />
R: We could do (a).<br />
L: Bigot &#8211; racist &#8211; homophobe &#8211; meanie!<br />
R: We could do (b).<br />
L: Bigot &#8211; racist &#8211; homophobe &#8211; meanie!<br />
&#8230;<br />
R: We could do (z).<br />
L: Bigot &#8211; racist &#8211; homophobe &#8211; meanie!<br />
R: What is <em>your </em>solution then?<br />
L: There&#8217;s a problem! It&#8217;s a crisis! We have to do something!<br />
(wanders away, when not screaming, cursing, throwing things, or hitting someone)</p>
<p>Ann&#8217;s comment perfectly illustrates the Catch-22 that the Left excels in creating.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/02/what-happens-in-guatemala/#comment-2454144</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 22:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In 2014, the Obama administration put pressure on Guatemala with regard &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-guatemala/united-states-steps-up-pressure-on-guatemala-over-labor-rights-idUSKBN0HD2AK20140918&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;worker&#039;s rights&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;“Our goal in taking action today remains the same as it has always been: to ensure that Guatemala implements the labor protections to which its workers are entitled,” he said.

“We remain hopeful that Guatemala can achieve a resolution that results in concrete improvements for workers on the ground and sends a positive signal to the world that would help attract investment, expand economic activity, and promote inclusive growth.”

Guatemala, whose economy is around the size of that of the U.S. state of Alaska, could face fines of up to $15 million a year or the suspension of trade benefits if an arbitration panel finds it has violated labor provisions in the Dominican Republic-Central America-United States Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA-DR).

According to the International Trade Union Confederation, at least 73 trade unionists have been killed since 2007 in Guatemala, which has one of the highest murder rates in the Americas. The ITUC said in June that the country was the most dangerous place in the world for the exercise of trade union activities. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2014, the Obama administration put pressure on Guatemala with regard <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-guatemala/united-states-steps-up-pressure-on-guatemala-over-labor-rights-idUSKBN0HD2AK20140918" rel="nofollow">worker&#8217;s rights</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Our goal in taking action today remains the same as it has always been: to ensure that Guatemala implements the labor protections to which its workers are entitled,” he said.</p>
<p>“We remain hopeful that Guatemala can achieve a resolution that results in concrete improvements for workers on the ground and sends a positive signal to the world that would help attract investment, expand economic activity, and promote inclusive growth.”</p>
<p>Guatemala, whose economy is around the size of that of the U.S. state of Alaska, could face fines of up to $15 million a year or the suspension of trade benefits if an arbitration panel finds it has violated labor provisions in the Dominican Republic-Central America-United States Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA-DR).</p>
<p>According to the International Trade Union Confederation, at least 73 trade unionists have been killed since 2007 in Guatemala, which has one of the highest murder rates in the Americas. The ITUC said in June that the country was the most dangerous place in the world for the exercise of trade union activities. </p></blockquote>
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		By: Roy Nathanson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/02/what-happens-in-guatemala/#comment-2454143</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 21:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From what I know of the State Department, it wouldn&#039;t surprise me to learn that the Guatamalan government was actively pressured by them into appointmenting those judges.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I know of the State Department, it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to learn that the Guatamalan government was actively pressured by them into appointmenting those judges.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/02/what-happens-in-guatemala/#comment-2454139</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 21:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of idiot Gringo interference in Guatemala, I am reminded of seeing in Guatemala the &quot;whole word&quot; versus &quot;phonics&quot; conflict for teaching beginning readers, where the &quot;progressive&quot; Gringo(a) was pushing whole language approach to learning to read.

From what I have read on the subject, phonics wins hands-down. As Spanish is much more phonetic than English, there is even less reason to not use phonics to teach reading in Spanish.

Oh well,one more idiot-well-intentioned Gringo &quot;helping&quot; our poor solumates down South.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of idiot Gringo interference in Guatemala, I am reminded of seeing in Guatemala the &#8220;whole word&#8221; versus &#8220;phonics&#8221; conflict for teaching beginning readers, where the &#8220;progressive&#8221; Gringo(a) was pushing whole language approach to learning to read.</p>
<p>From what I have read on the subject, phonics wins hands-down. As Spanish is much more phonetic than English, there is even less reason to not use phonics to teach reading in Spanish.</p>
<p>Oh well,one more idiot-well-intentioned Gringo &#8220;helping&#8221; our poor solumates down South.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 21:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had several conversations on immigration with my lefty friends that go something like this:

Lefty:  &quot;It&#039;s our fault that conditions are so bad in Central America, so we have to look to the root causes and fix them!&quot;
RS:  &quot;How should we do that, more aid?&quot;
Lefty: &quot;Yes!  Much more!&quot;
RS: &quot;But you know the countries are so corrupt -- the plutocrats and drug cartels steal most of the aid we send them.&quot;
Lefty: &quot;Yes, and we have to stop them!&quot;
RS:  &quot;How should we do that?  Send in the Marines, like we did in the first half of the 20th Century?&quot;
Lefty: &quot;No, of course not!&quot;  or &quot;Did we do that?  I didn&#039;t know that.&quot;
RS: &quot;Well, then how?&quot;  or &quot;We certainly did.  Look it up.&quot;
Lefty: &quot;I don&#039;t know about that, but we have to do something!&quot;
RS: &quot;Well, what should we do?&quot;
Lefty: &quot;Oh, you right-wingers always want to use the military.&quot;
RS: &quot;Huh?&quot;
End of conversation.

Here&#039;s another of my favorites:

Lefty:  &quot;It&#039;s our fault that conditions are so bad in Central America, so we have to look to the root causes and fix them!&quot;
RS:  &quot;You mean those countries are totally corrupt plutocracies, run by drug cartels and tin-pot military dictators?&quot;
Lefty: &quot;Yes.&quot;
RS:  &quot;So, if I&#039;ve got this right, these Central American countries are shitholes, so we have to take in their illegal immigrants, but Trump is a very bad man for saying they&#039;re shitholes?&quot;
Lefty:  &quot;Oh, you Trump supporters!&quot;
Walks away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had several conversations on immigration with my lefty friends that go something like this:</p>
<p>Lefty:  &#8220;It&#8217;s our fault that conditions are so bad in Central America, so we have to look to the root causes and fix them!&#8221;<br />
RS:  &#8220;How should we do that, more aid?&#8221;<br />
Lefty: &#8220;Yes!  Much more!&#8221;<br />
RS: &#8220;But you know the countries are so corrupt &#8212; the plutocrats and drug cartels steal most of the aid we send them.&#8221;<br />
Lefty: &#8220;Yes, and we have to stop them!&#8221;<br />
RS:  &#8220;How should we do that?  Send in the Marines, like we did in the first half of the 20th Century?&#8221;<br />
Lefty: &#8220;No, of course not!&#8221;  or &#8220;Did we do that?  I didn&#8217;t know that.&#8221;<br />
RS: &#8220;Well, then how?&#8221;  or &#8220;We certainly did.  Look it up.&#8221;<br />
Lefty: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know about that, but we have to do something!&#8221;<br />
RS: &#8220;Well, what should we do?&#8221;<br />
Lefty: &#8220;Oh, you right-wingers always want to use the military.&#8221;<br />
RS: &#8220;Huh?&#8221;<br />
End of conversation.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another of my favorites:</p>
<p>Lefty:  &#8220;It&#8217;s our fault that conditions are so bad in Central America, so we have to look to the root causes and fix them!&#8221;<br />
RS:  &#8220;You mean those countries are totally corrupt plutocracies, run by drug cartels and tin-pot military dictators?&#8221;<br />
Lefty: &#8220;Yes.&#8221;<br />
RS:  &#8220;So, if I&#8217;ve got this right, these Central American countries are shitholes, so we have to take in their illegal immigrants, but Trump is a very bad man for saying they&#8217;re shitholes?&#8221;<br />
Lefty:  &#8220;Oh, you Trump supporters!&#8221;<br />
Walks away.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/02/what-happens-in-guatemala/#comment-2454078</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 16:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Art Deco - or to kick in the balls anyone getting in the way of socialists.  You forgot that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Art Deco &#8211; or to kick in the balls anyone getting in the way of socialists.  You forgot that one.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 03:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most complaints about &#039;meddling&#039; are rubbish, but what he describes  - if true - is &lt;i&gt;de trop&lt;/i&gt;.  If we&#039;re meddling, we should be doing so to prevent: (1) a situation of insurrection, or (2) a breakdown of the formal political order, or (3) the alignment of the country with an antagonistic foreign power, incorporating co-operation in the politico-military sphere; or (4) containing a financial crisis in that country; or (5) addressing a humanitarian catastrophe; or (6) defending ourselves against verious sorts of &#039;asymmetric&#039; threats.  Nothing like this is at stake with the Guatemalan judiciary, Brexit, or a Likud ministry in Israel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most complaints about &#8216;meddling&#8217; are rubbish, but what he describes  &#8211; if true &#8211; is <i>de trop</i>.  If we&#8217;re meddling, we should be doing so to prevent: (1) a situation of insurrection, or (2) a breakdown of the formal political order, or (3) the alignment of the country with an antagonistic foreign power, incorporating co-operation in the politico-military sphere; or (4) containing a financial crisis in that country; or (5) addressing a humanitarian catastrophe; or (6) defending ourselves against verious sorts of &#8216;asymmetric&#8217; threats.  Nothing like this is at stake with the Guatemalan judiciary, Brexit, or a Likud ministry in Israel.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/02/what-happens-in-guatemala/#comment-2454049</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 03:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;“The root cause of migration,” said Duarte, is “the lack of opportunities for people to work in our country,” adding, “Climate change is being used as an excuse for poor planning all over the globe” by those subscribing to “communist ideology.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Quelle surprise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“The root cause of migration,” said Duarte, is “the lack of opportunities for people to work in our country,” adding, “Climate change is being used as an excuse for poor planning all over the globe” by those subscribing to “communist ideology.”
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<p>Quelle surprise.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/02/what-happens-in-guatemala/#comment-2454048</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 02:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FOAF on September 2, 2019 at 10:01 pm said:
Right off the bat, what the hell are we doing telling Guatemala who to put on their courts?
* * *
Or telling the Israelis who to elect as Prime Minister?
Or telling Great Britain how to vote on Brexit (with threats, no less)?

Countries always meddle in other countries&#039; affairs; it is only when Republicans do it (or can be accused of doing it) that the press and Democrats find it so reprehensible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOAF on September 2, 2019 at 10:01 pm said:<br />
Right off the bat, what the hell are we doing telling Guatemala who to put on their courts?<br />
* * *<br />
Or telling the Israelis who to elect as Prime Minister?<br />
Or telling Great Britain how to vote on Brexit (with threats, no less)?</p>
<p>Countries always meddle in other countries&#8217; affairs; it is only when Republicans do it (or can be accused of doing it) that the press and Democrats find it so reprehensible.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/09/02/what-happens-in-guatemala/#comment-2454044</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 02:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right off the bat, what the hell are we doing telling Guatemala who to put on their courts?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right off the bat, what the hell are we doing telling Guatemala who to put on their courts?</p>
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