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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[FWIW, the Left is selective about who they will throw under the bus.
I don&#039;t know this guy Tom Wright-Piersanti, but it looks like he is &quot;above the fold&quot; for the Times.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/08/29/new-york-times-editor-keeps-job-after-antisemitic-racist-messages-exposed/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, the Left is selective about who they will throw under the bus.<br />
I don&#8217;t know this guy Tom Wright-Piersanti, but it looks like he is &#8220;above the fold&#8221; for the Times.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/08/29/new-york-times-editor-keeps-job-after-antisemitic-racist-messages-exposed/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/08/29/new-york-times-editor-keeps-job-after-antisemitic-racist-messages-exposed/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo on August 29, 2019 at 4:23 pm said:
Ann:

I think they really believe it.

It goes something like this:

We (the left) are the good guys.
Sometimes we lose.
We are good in terms of our morals, our intentions, and our intelligence.
Therefore whenever we lose it’s because the opposition cheats, plays dirty, is nasty, are street fighters.
Therefore we need to get tougher.
* * *
Ooohhh-kaayy.
When you are ignorant of -- or deliberately ignore -- reality, you can generate a really vicious feed-back loop.
This &quot;getting tougher&quot; may explain lots of things about the Democrats, considering the actual base-line of dirty fighting that they started from.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo on August 29, 2019 at 4:23 pm said:<br />
Ann:</p>
<p>I think they really believe it.</p>
<p>It goes something like this:</p>
<p>We (the left) are the good guys.<br />
Sometimes we lose.<br />
We are good in terms of our morals, our intentions, and our intelligence.<br />
Therefore whenever we lose it’s because the opposition cheats, plays dirty, is nasty, are street fighters.<br />
Therefore we need to get tougher.<br />
* * *<br />
Ooohhh-kaayy.<br />
When you are ignorant of &#8212; or deliberately ignore &#8212; reality, you can generate a really vicious feed-back loop.<br />
This &#8220;getting tougher&#8221; may explain lots of things about the Democrats, considering the actual base-line of dirty fighting that they started from.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Case in point: an excerpt from a Washington Post story (I didn&#039;t go to the WaPo original because I won&#039;t register or pay them to read their rag).

https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/08/29/conservatives-say-weve-abandoned-reason-and-civility-the-old-south-said-that-too-to-defend-slavery/

&lt;blockquote&gt;In his [Ben Shapiro’s] telling … [t]oo many on the political left [are] castigating the character of those who disagree,” lumping conservatives and political nonconformists together with racists and xenophobes.

…
My childhood home is just a half-hour drive from the Manassas battlefield in Virginia, and I grew up intensely fascinated by the Civil War. …. During my senior year in college, … Civil War rhetoric was almost all I read: not just that of the 16th president but also that of his adversaries.

Thinking back on those debates, I finally figured it out. The reasonable right’s rhetoric is exactly the same as the antebellum rhetoric I’d read so much of. The same exact words. The same exact arguments. Rhetoric, to be precise, in support of the slave-owning South.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think this is a good exemplar of the general cluelessness of the Left / Dems that Neo &#038; others have outlined, and a serendipitous find, because yesterday I was reading about Southern slavers&#039; rhetoric and the opposition to it by the Republican Party (represented by Abe Lincoln).

https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/08/28/the-recent-history-of-press-bias/#comment-2453511

&lt;blockquote&gt;…when you speak of us Republicans, you do so only to denounce us as reptiles [!], or, at the best, as no better than outlaws. You will grant a hearing to pirates or murderers, but nothing like it to [Republicans]. In all your contentions with one another, each of you deems an unconditional condemnation of [Republicanism] as the first thing to be attended to. &lt;b&gt;Indeed, such condemnation of us seems to be an indispensable prerequisite — license, so to speak — among you to be admitted or permitted to speak at all. &lt;/b&gt;Now, can you, or not, be prevailed upon to pause and to consider whether this is quite just to us, or even to yourselves? Bring forward your charges and specifications, and then be patient long enough to hear us deny or justify.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Case in point: an excerpt from a Washington Post story (I didn&#8217;t go to the WaPo original because I won&#8217;t register or pay them to read their rag).</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/08/29/conservatives-say-weve-abandoned-reason-and-civility-the-old-south-said-that-too-to-defend-slavery/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/08/29/conservatives-say-weve-abandoned-reason-and-civility-the-old-south-said-that-too-to-defend-slavery/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In his [Ben Shapiro’s] telling … [t]oo many on the political left [are] castigating the character of those who disagree,” lumping conservatives and political nonconformists together with racists and xenophobes.</p>
<p>…<br />
My childhood home is just a half-hour drive from the Manassas battlefield in Virginia, and I grew up intensely fascinated by the Civil War. …. During my senior year in college, … Civil War rhetoric was almost all I read: not just that of the 16th president but also that of his adversaries.</p>
<p>Thinking back on those debates, I finally figured it out. The reasonable right’s rhetoric is exactly the same as the antebellum rhetoric I’d read so much of. The same exact words. The same exact arguments. Rhetoric, to be precise, in support of the slave-owning South.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this is a good exemplar of the general cluelessness of the Left / Dems that Neo &amp; others have outlined, and a serendipitous find, because yesterday I was reading about Southern slavers&#8217; rhetoric and the opposition to it by the Republican Party (represented by Abe Lincoln).</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/08/28/the-recent-history-of-press-bias/#comment-2453511" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/08/28/the-recent-history-of-press-bias/#comment-2453511</a></p>
<blockquote><p>…when you speak of us Republicans, you do so only to denounce us as reptiles [!], or, at the best, as no better than outlaws. You will grant a hearing to pirates or murderers, but nothing like it to [Republicans]. In all your contentions with one another, each of you deems an unconditional condemnation of [Republicanism] as the first thing to be attended to. <b>Indeed, such condemnation of us seems to be an indispensable prerequisite — license, so to speak — among you to be admitted or permitted to speak at all. </b>Now, can you, or not, be prevailed upon to pause and to consider whether this is quite just to us, or even to yourselves? Bring forward your charges and specifications, and then be patient long enough to hear us deny or justify.
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2019 03:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hatred of white people is even more favored, but I don’t think that’s considered bigotry these days as long as it’s expressed by someone in a favored minority group or by a virtue-signaling white person on the left 

&lt;b&gt;Why Don’t We Murder More White People?&lt;/b&gt;

San Francisco’s Yerba Buena Center for the Arts (YBCA) is a large museum next to the Moscone Convention Center downtown. This non-profit is funded by the City of San Francisco, the National Endowment for the Arts, Bloomberg Philanthropies, and the James Irvine Foundation. From July 23 to August 25, YBCA screened Jonathan Garcia’s movie Why Don’t We Murder More White People? It was on an endless loop and each cycle lasted 11 minutes and 17 seconds, and is now on Youtube.

    “I think if you’re not supporting people of color and to end white supremacy, and you’re neutral, or you are that person that’s perpetrating it, then you shouldn’t—I think you deserve harm.”

    “I think that harm is radical. But I think sometimes radical is needed.”

    “And, sometimes I feel like non-violence is not the best route.”

YBCA describes Miss [Deborah] Cullinan [CEO of YBCA] as “one of the nation’s leading thinkers on the pivotal role arts organizations can play in shaping our social and political landscape, and has spent years mobilizing communities through arts and culture.” What does she hope to “mobilize communities” to do by screening a video about murdering whites?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hatred of white people is even more favored, but I don’t think that’s considered bigotry these days as long as it’s expressed by someone in a favored minority group or by a virtue-signaling white person on the left </p>
<p><b>Why Don’t We Murder More White People?</b></p>
<p>San Francisco’s Yerba Buena Center for the Arts (YBCA) is a large museum next to the Moscone Convention Center downtown. This non-profit is funded by the City of San Francisco, the National Endowment for the Arts, Bloomberg Philanthropies, and the James Irvine Foundation. From July 23 to August 25, YBCA screened Jonathan Garcia’s movie Why Don’t We Murder More White People? It was on an endless loop and each cycle lasted 11 minutes and 17 seconds, and is now on Youtube.</p>
<p>    “I think if you’re not supporting people of color and to end white supremacy, and you’re neutral, or you are that person that’s perpetrating it, then you shouldn’t—I think you deserve harm.”</p>
<p>    “I think that harm is radical. But I think sometimes radical is needed.”</p>
<p>    “And, sometimes I feel like non-violence is not the best route.”</p>
<p>YBCA describes Miss [Deborah] Cullinan [CEO of YBCA] as “one of the nation’s leading thinkers on the pivotal role arts organizations can play in shaping our social and political landscape, and has spent years mobilizing communities through arts and culture.” What does she hope to “mobilize communities” to do by screening a video about murdering whites?</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2019 02:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@neo:&lt;i&gt;It often puzzles me why people would be so dumb as to publicly air such comments and sign their names to them.&lt;/i&gt;

Why would teens post cellphone videos of crimes they commit on Facebook?  Why do academic bureaucrats write emails at work talking about how much they hate conservative students and how they&#039;re going to find a pretext to deny them something?

Same reason.  They think only their friends are paying attention.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neo:<i>It often puzzles me why people would be so dumb as to publicly air such comments and sign their names to them.</i></p>
<p>Why would teens post cellphone videos of crimes they commit on Facebook?  Why do academic bureaucrats write emails at work talking about how much they hate conservative students and how they&#8217;re going to find a pretext to deny them something?</p>
<p>Same reason.  They think only their friends are paying attention.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;It goes something like this: We (the left) are the good guys. - We are good in terms of our morals, our intentions, and our intelligence.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; neo 

That&#039;s what they consciously tell themselves but that&#039;s merely their biggest, deepest lie. Because the truly good are deeply uncomfortable with lies. Truly good people are incapable of ignoring the left&#039;s 100+ MILLION death count in the 20th century. And are incapable of supporting the continuance of policies that demonstrably destroy lives. 

To paraphrase Col. Jessup; they can’t face the truth because deep down in places they never talk about to others... they know they lack the moral fortitude to do so. They know they are unworthy of the freedom that those who gave that, &quot;last full measure of devotion&quot; bequeathed to them. 

And &lt;i&gt;that is the source&lt;/i&gt; of their hate for the truth. 

They hate the right &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; we support objective truth. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;It’s pure, naked projection.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Barry Meislin 

Willful denial springs from moral cowardice and the cowardly always place the blame upon others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;It goes something like this: We (the left) are the good guys. &#8211; We are good in terms of our morals, our intentions, and our intelligence.&#8221;</i> neo </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what they consciously tell themselves but that&#8217;s merely their biggest, deepest lie. Because the truly good are deeply uncomfortable with lies. Truly good people are incapable of ignoring the left&#8217;s 100+ MILLION death count in the 20th century. And are incapable of supporting the continuance of policies that demonstrably destroy lives. </p>
<p>To paraphrase Col. Jessup; they can’t face the truth because deep down in places they never talk about to others&#8230; they know they lack the moral fortitude to do so. They know they are unworthy of the freedom that those who gave that, &#8220;last full measure of devotion&#8221; bequeathed to them. </p>
<p>And <i>that is the source</i> of their hate for the truth. </p>
<p>They hate the right <i>because</i> we support objective truth. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;It’s pure, naked projection.&#8221;</i> Barry Meislin </p>
<p>Willful denial springs from moral cowardice and the cowardly always place the blame upon others.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oldie (very oldie!) but goodie from a Bob Hope film from 1940: why Democrats are like zombies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6YdNmK77k&#038;ab_channel=asbrand]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldie (very oldie!) but goodie from a Bob Hope film from 1940: why Democrats are like zombies.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6YdNmK77k&#038;ab_channel=asbrand" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6YdNmK77k&#038;ab_channel=asbrand</a></p>
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		By: Matthew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As others have mentioned democrats project their faults on to others except well meaning but not very critical souls.

I notice in my life time people who have had views of themselves other than reality. I don&#039;t even mean the way democrats assume that they are on the side of angels. I mean I&#039;ve known people who thought they had a different hair color than they do. In junior high, there was a really vain kid who was always checking himself out in the mirror. He was horse faced but he did not know that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have mentioned democrats project their faults on to others except well meaning but not very critical souls.</p>
<p>I notice in my life time people who have had views of themselves other than reality. I don&#8217;t even mean the way democrats assume that they are on the side of angels. I mean I&#8217;ve known people who thought they had a different hair color than they do. In junior high, there was a really vain kid who was always checking himself out in the mirror. He was horse faced but he did not know that.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We are good in terms of our morals, our intentions, and our intelligence.&quot;

So true Neo.  My same friend constantly harps about his politicos &quot;really care about people and society unlike those nasty profiteering capitalists.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are good in terms of our morals, our intentions, and our intelligence.&#8221;</p>
<p>So true Neo.  My same friend constantly harps about his politicos &#8220;really care about people and society unlike those nasty profiteering capitalists.&#8221;</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[See the recent smear job against JD Vance, and the attempt to smear the pro-life people as white nationalists.
https://nypost.com/2019/08/28/j-d-vance-just-the-latest-right-thinker-to-be-smeared-by-leftist-lies/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the recent smear job against JD Vance, and the attempt to smear the pro-life people as white nationalists.<br />
<a href="https://nypost.com/2019/08/28/j-d-vance-just-the-latest-right-thinker-to-be-smeared-by-leftist-lies/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2019/08/28/j-d-vance-just-the-latest-right-thinker-to-be-smeared-by-leftist-lies/</a></p>
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