Comments on: The growing acceptance of anti-Semitism by the Democratic Party https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/ A blog about political change, among other things Wed, 21 Aug 2019 20:47:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1 By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452459 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 20:47:44 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452459 Not too long ago, tne NYT remarked that none of the attacks on Jews in the city, of which there has been an alarming number, could be connected to white anti-semitism and hate.
Which is to say, they didn’t actually happen, in terms of making a lot of noise. Which is to say, further, that a good many more can happen before it becomes a crisis which must be addressed by Authority.

I keep saying it; it will be funny/sad when Jews find their safe spaces are Baptist churches and NASCAR events.

]]> By: Richard Saunders https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452453 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 20:23:42 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452453 Gerard vanderleun — your second analysis is much better. Jews on the Left have been “useful idiots” and stooges for more than a century now. They just don’t get the idea that the Left is not their friend, that it will turn on them, sooner or later. As the chief Rabbi of Moscow, Rabbi Jacob Maze, once said to Trotsky (born Lev Bronstein), after being told that he, Trotsky, would not help the Jews of Russia because he was a Communist and did not consider himself a Jew: “Trotsky makes the revolutions, and the Bronsteins pay the bills.”

]]> By: Montage https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452444 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 19:48:38 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452444 Hmmm, so saying Jews who vote for people who want to destroy Israel shows disloyalty to Israel is somehow anti-Semitic and similar to the old charge of dual loyalty?

Why should American Jews be loyal to Israel the way you define loyalty? You’re claiming the left and in turn the Democrats want to destroy Israel. That is an opinion but it is not shared by many Jewish Americans. And based on the bipartisan financial support we give to Israel each year it doesn’t seem the case among most Democrats.
As polling has shown 7 in 10 American Jews vote for and support Democrats. [Or did in the presidential and midterm elections] I don’t think Jewish voters make political choices lightly or in an uneducated manner. I also know they themselves are not anti-Semitic.

I know you and I disagree about the use of Trump’s words but ‘disloyal’ is really the wrong word to use in this case. Would it not have been better for Trump to say I don’t understand why any Jews would vote for Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar? But lumping all Democrats together and therefore all Jewish voters into one big political position about a perception of how Democrats feel about Israel is a generalization. It’s like claiming that black people shouldn’t vote for Republicans because Republicans are racists. Jewish Americans – like black Americans – should not be expected to vote for any particular party. They have many political reasons why they vote. Saying they should only vote based on one political position is problematic because it assumes their identity is only one thing that you happen to find important. [Sorry, I am not trying to argue or accuse you on a personal level. I hope you understand that.]

Regarding the House resolution it was pretty clear who the resolution referred to. Again, I completely, agree with the criticism or Omar even if the resolution fell short of specifically naming her.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452435 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 18:47:01 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452435 Montage:

Hmmm, so saying Jews who vote for people who want to destroy Israel shows disloyalty to Israel is somehow anti-Semitic and similar to the old charge of dual loyalty?

That’s some twisted “logic” you’ve got there.

I actually don’t like Trump’s remarks in this instance. But it is a descriptive statement of fact: Jews that vote for people who want to destroy Israel (the party of Omar and Tlaib) are not loyal to Israel.

And nice try. Actually, the House refused to condemn either woman. Democrats have—as I write in this post—become more and more anti-Israel with every passing year.

]]> By: Barry Meislin https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452433 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 18:40:03 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452433 “The House rightly passed a resolution condemning her remarks.”

Um, you’re sure about that?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/democrats-just-chickened-out-on-censuring-anti-semitism-journalists-make-the-story-about-republicans-instead
https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/republicans-still-might-try-censure-omar-mccarthy-suggests

]]> By: sdferr https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452432 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 18:38:52 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452432 “The House rightly passed a resolution condemning her remarks.”

Her remarks? Her who? She who could not be named in the lamed-assed resolution now touted? That’s pathetic weak trash you’re bringing there, montage. Pathetic.

]]> By: Montage https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452430 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 18:20:03 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452430 Frankly, I find it very problematic that any politician [on the left or the right, Republican or Democrat] would tell Jewish people in America that they should be loyal to Israel or loyal to a particular political party. If a politician wants the court Jewish voters it’s best not to call all those who don’t vote one way or another as ‘disloyal’ or ‘voting against their interests’. It’s presumptuous, it’s ugly, it definitely boarders on anti-Semitism and it will not get any politician more votes. Jewish people are not pawns in some political game.

From the Began-Sedat site.
“Statistics show that the main anti-Semitic hate motif worldwide is that diaspora Jews are more loyal to Israel than to the country in which they live.” If we expect people to not use this line of thinking then we have to call it out when someone says Jews should be loyal as well. And, yes, for the record I am critical of Ilhan Omar when she said something similar. The House rightly passed a resolution condemning her remarks.

]]> By: Surellin https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452428 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:49:11 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452428 Neo, I think you are right. If I recall correctly, at the time of 1967 war there was little question (in my circles or local media, at least) that Israel was the Good Guys. Come 1973, however, and it had gotten more… nuanced. I think there is a deep conviction among the left that those at the top are evil (or else how would they be rich and powerful?). Therefore the Israelis, as a successful society, must be Bad, compared to the poor Palestinians, who must be Good.

]]> By: Kate https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452423 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 16:58:05 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452423 Right, Barry Meislin. How dare Trump use Twitter to contradict the MSM’s narrative! The nerve of that guy!

]]> By: Barry Meislin https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/the-growing-acceptance-of-anti-semitism-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2452403 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:44:25 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89271#comment-2452403 “…shape political discourse…”

More like “bludgeon”…. (but hey, that’s the MSM’s job!…and Trump—that tyro, that interloper, that rogue—has no right to interfere with the Narrative (TM)….)

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