Comments on: Does their “Medicare for All” pledge at the debates mean anything for the Democrats in 2020? https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/ A blog about political change, among other things Wed, 21 Aug 2019 15:17:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: Mike K https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452413 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 15:17:09 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452413 A good model, in my opinion, for US health care reform, is France. Most Democrats pushing Single Payer think France is an example but it is not. The French system is funded mostly by payroll deductions. There is a large tax paid segment because the French economy is so poor, but that is another matter. Ten years ago, before Obamacare, I researched health care systems and decided the French was best for a large country. The NHS is not even supported by a majority in Britain. One problem France has is British retirees who sign up for the segment of French Social Security as if they were poor. Recently, France has tightened up the requirements for such new subscribers.

Anyway, here are my ten year old conclusions on health carte reform. Since the French use price as a way of limiting use, the Democrats would never approve. They prefer “free stuff.”

]]> By: Mac https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452412 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 15:13:03 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452412 From the newspaper article cited by Mike K above:

“…a comprehensive government-financed (not government-controlled) insurance plan…”

That parenthetical is hilarious.

]]> By: quiet conservative https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452353 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 03:06:31 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452353 The thrust of the article is, in my opinion, accurate. The Dems will sing a new song for the election and will get away with it, in large part thanks to their best buds in the media who will be happy to let these insane promises be forgotten. I’ve never seen such a bunch of lying fools in my entire life.

]]> By: 0m https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452340 Wed, 21 Aug 2019 00:42:17 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452340 Manju, always ready to help us knuckle draggin, ingernt, … Well, how would we thrive without him?

]]> By: Geoffrey Britain https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452320 Tue, 20 Aug 2019 23:21:06 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452320 It is the job of SuperPACs to make sure that voters remember the positions advocated by the political opposition. In the 2020 election, the Republican party has “an embarrassment of riches” with which to work. So much so that only betrayal of Trump by collaborating with the democrats can explain a failure to incessantly remind voters of where the democrats stand.

]]> By: LYNN HARGROVE https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452308 Tue, 20 Aug 2019 22:47:07 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452308 They are Lucy with the football. Once elected it will be Medicare for all.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452241 Tue, 20 Aug 2019 21:36:42 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452241 Oh, and manju:

We do not have “free-market” system here presently. Nor is anyone here advocating (as far as I can tell) a completely free-market system.

Also see this for my personal experience regarding the Canadian and British systems. I’ve written about health care insurance many many many times, but just for a small sampler try this, this, and this.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452240 Tue, 20 Aug 2019 21:28:33 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452240 Spread the word, folks.

Manju the concern troll is here to help us be better capitalists.

]]> By: Manju https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452238 Tue, 20 Aug 2019 21:21:10 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452238 Economists have long known that healthcare is an exception to the basic rule that a free-market system is superior to one controlled by the government. Heath care simply doesn’t follow the same rules that we see in other markets. People behave differently…for all the reasons laid out by Kennith Arrow in his seminal paper on the issue.

Unless you’re trying to tell me that Kenneth Arrow is a far-leftist, I think you should re-examine your premise.

In contrast, free-trade works just like the textbook says it should work. That’s why the current anti-trade ideology invading the US represents a much more profound attack on the foundations of American Capitalism.

Come on Republicans, be better capitalists. I’m here to help.

]]> By: Barry Meislin https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/20/does-their-medicare-for-all-pledge-at-the-debates-mean-anything-for-the-democrats-in-2020/#comment-2452234 Tue, 20 Aug 2019 20:56:55 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=89283#comment-2452234 But the NY Post is staunchly right.

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