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		By: Getting Dressed in the 1830s &#8211; Other People&#039;s Videos		</title>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Gerard vanderleun on August 14, 2019 at 2:23 pm said:	

Not a decent pocket to be had.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Hahaha ... I think he&#039;s quoting from that old Fred Astaire movie where Astaire and his college football player buddy take over a dressmaking outfit in France. (Pretty awful film, but about 10 minutes of worthwhile entertainment including Astaire on the piano, if you can busy yourself otherwise for most of it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Gerard vanderleun on August 14, 2019 at 2:23 pm said:	</p>
<p>Not a decent pocket to be had.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Hahaha &#8230; I think he&#8217;s quoting from that old Fred Astaire movie where Astaire and his college football player buddy take over a dressmaking outfit in France. (Pretty awful film, but about 10 minutes of worthwhile entertainment including Astaire on the piano, if you can busy yourself otherwise for most of it.)</p>
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		By: Gerard vanderleun		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is that a chihuahua under your dress or are you just glad to see me?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a chihuahua under your dress or are you just glad to see me?</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gerard Vanderleun:

Are you kidding me?  The pockets there aren&#039;t just decent, they&#039;re FABULOUS!  They are worn under the dress and accessed through discreet slits.  You could fit a chihuahua in there!  Maybe two.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerard Vanderleun:</p>
<p>Are you kidding me?  The pockets there aren&#8217;t just decent, they&#8217;re FABULOUS!  They are worn under the dress and accessed through discreet slits.  You could fit a chihuahua in there!  Maybe two.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My childhood house/home had an outhouse, though when my parents bought it the house also had running water with facilities. The outhouse had two doors,  with two seats to a side, and a concrete floor. We used the outhouse for storing lawn mowers and the gas can for the mowers. Occasionally, we also used the outhouse in the manner for  which it was built.

Speaking of improvements, my uncle told me that the farmhouse he grew up in didn&#039;t get electricity until the late 1930s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My childhood house/home had an outhouse, though when my parents bought it the house also had running water with facilities. The outhouse had two doors,  with two seats to a side, and a concrete floor. We used the outhouse for storing lawn mowers and the gas can for the mowers. Occasionally, we also used the outhouse in the manner for  which it was built.</p>
<p>Speaking of improvements, my uncle told me that the farmhouse he grew up in didn&#8217;t get electricity until the late 1930s.</p>
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		By: Gerard vanderleun		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 18:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not a decent pocket to be had.]]></description>
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		By: SueK		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 18:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heh.  My question might be even tackier...

_What_ facilities??

My closest highschool friend lived out in the country.  A neighbor of hers died.  The first thing his wife did after his death was to have running water piped into the house.  No more outhouse.  
One of the first houses I lived in after I was married...had an outhouse for about a month.  I got to watch them put the well in...very interesting process!  The parents of the owner lived across the road...still had an outhouse.  What&#039;s more, she had severe health problems...had to have a night &quot;pot&quot; which her husband emptied in the AM.  
So...in 1830, what facilities were available?
I remember in France when we were there, public facilities were holes in the ground.  With a footprint on each side for guidance, I guess.  With all the spread on that dress plus the opening for the under garments, that might work I suppose. 

I am _so_ glad I live now!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.  My question might be even tackier&#8230;</p>
<p>_What_ facilities??</p>
<p>My closest highschool friend lived out in the country.  A neighbor of hers died.  The first thing his wife did after his death was to have running water piped into the house.  No more outhouse.<br />
One of the first houses I lived in after I was married&#8230;had an outhouse for about a month.  I got to watch them put the well in&#8230;very interesting process!  The parents of the owner lived across the road&#8230;still had an outhouse.  What&#8217;s more, she had severe health problems&#8230;had to have a night &#8220;pot&#8221; which her husband emptied in the AM.<br />
So&#8230;in 1830, what facilities were available?<br />
I remember in France when we were there, public facilities were holes in the ground.  With a footprint on each side for guidance, I guess.  With all the spread on that dress plus the opening for the under garments, that might work I suppose. </p>
<p>I am _so_ glad I live now!!</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Gail on August 14, 2019 at 1:48 am said:	

My thought on this is totally gauche….All I can think about is how is she going to use the facilities?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha. The average guy&#039;s are probably more tacky, while having nothing to do with removing layers for such reasons as you imagine. Daunting ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Gail on August 14, 2019 at 1:48 am said:	</p>
<p>My thought on this is totally gauche….All I can think about is how is she going to use the facilities?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha. The average guy&#8217;s are probably more tacky, while having nothing to do with removing layers for such reasons as you imagine. Daunting &#8230;</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 16:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are four documents that make up the founding of the USA... 
The Constitution
The Bill of Rights
The Articles of Confederation
&lt;b&gt;The Articles of Association&lt;/b&gt;

Passed on October 20, 1774 the Articles of Association
sometimes also called the Continental Association

Full Text: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Continental_Association

&lt;b&gt;2. That we will neither import nor purchase any Slave imported after the first day of December next; after which time we will wholly discontinue the Slave Trade, and will neither be concerned in it ourselves, nor will we hire our vessels, nor sell our Commodities or Manufactures to those who are concerned in it.&lt;/b&gt;

unless they erased it from your history... you would know the USA was never founded in slavery, quite not... from Jeffersons notes on a copy of the constitution, to this document... we used to know.. 

anyway... thats what i got today on slaves... 

&lt;b&gt;oh? you mean Sleeves&lt;/b&gt;

Nevermind... - emily lattella...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are four documents that make up the founding of the USA&#8230;<br />
The Constitution<br />
The Bill of Rights<br />
The Articles of Confederation<br />
<b>The Articles of Association</b></p>
<p>Passed on October 20, 1774 the Articles of Association<br />
sometimes also called the Continental Association</p>
<p>Full Text: <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Continental_Association" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Continental_Association</a></p>
<p><b>2. That we will neither import nor purchase any Slave imported after the first day of December next; after which time we will wholly discontinue the Slave Trade, and will neither be concerned in it ourselves, nor will we hire our vessels, nor sell our Commodities or Manufactures to those who are concerned in it.</b></p>
<p>unless they erased it from your history&#8230; you would know the USA was never founded in slavery, quite not&#8230; from Jeffersons notes on a copy of the constitution, to this document&#8230; we used to know.. </p>
<p>anyway&#8230; thats what i got today on slaves&#8230; </p>
<p><b>oh? you mean Sleeves</b></p>
<p>Nevermind&#8230; &#8211; emily lattella&#8230;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gail on August 14, 2019 at 1:48 am said:
My thought on this is totally gauche….All I can think about is how is she going to use the facilities?
* * *
I&#039;ve seen Chang&#039;s video before and found it very, um, informative.
However, the real purpose for women&#039;s dresses and split-knickers (or lack thereof) is that, for most of history, there were no facilities to be used.
Think of &quot;clothing privilege&quot; as one more advantage men have over women.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail on August 14, 2019 at 1:48 am said:<br />
My thought on this is totally gauche….All I can think about is how is she going to use the facilities?<br />
* * *<br />
I&#8217;ve seen Chang&#8217;s video before and found it very, um, informative.<br />
However, the real purpose for women&#8217;s dresses and split-knickers (or lack thereof) is that, for most of history, there were no facilities to be used.<br />
Think of &#8220;clothing privilege&#8221; as one more advantage men have over women.</p>
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