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		By: Leah		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/06/what-happens-when-you-step-outside-the-circle-real-friends/#comment-2448114</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 23:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You have stated this all so well. I&#039;m not a changer, but I&#039;m a red Jew - so I&#039;m the odd ball out. There are all kinds of levels of friendship, in very few of them can I be completely honest. I find myself hiding my true self, in some cases going on 20 years. I have made new friends, only one or two are the kind of friends where we shared other interests, not just politics. I&#039;ve found that the political friends are fine, but I don&#039;t want to wallow in politics - and that is all there is.

The election of Trump has made it all so much worse. Which makes me lose respect  for my &#039;lefty&#039; friends. They simply can&#039;t handle it and in some cases - when I do mention my political leanings - they attack in ways they wouldn&#039;t have even under Bush.  Oh well, Such is life,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have stated this all so well. I&#8217;m not a changer, but I&#8217;m a red Jew &#8211; so I&#8217;m the odd ball out. There are all kinds of levels of friendship, in very few of them can I be completely honest. I find myself hiding my true self, in some cases going on 20 years. I have made new friends, only one or two are the kind of friends where we shared other interests, not just politics. I&#8217;ve found that the political friends are fine, but I don&#8217;t want to wallow in politics &#8211; and that is all there is.</p>
<p>The election of Trump has made it all so much worse. Which makes me lose respect  for my &#8216;lefty&#8217; friends. They simply can&#8217;t handle it and in some cases &#8211; when I do mention my political leanings &#8211; they attack in ways they wouldn&#8217;t have even under Bush.  Oh well, Such is life,</p>
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		By: steve walsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 21:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I feel sorry for people that subordinate friendships, and family, to political parties, policies, and ideologies. I&#039;ve been very fortunate in my life to be surrounded by people that value their relationship with me over any disagreements we may hold on such things as political parties, public policy, and ideology. Like some of the others here I am best described as a Libertarian, though I register unaffiliated. I&#039;ve always been of this mind, never a leftist or progressive or sympathetic to Democrats. My family, other than my wife and daughter, are uniformly Democrats of various degree.

The best advice for you in your situation Neo is to stay the course with the friends that will still have you and whose friendship you value. Most people that are friends will accept you as you are out of respect - to them you may be wrong but you are thoughtful, honest, and sincere. Maybe they won&#039;t talk politics with you any longer but keeping them as friends will be worth it.

Best of luck to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for people that subordinate friendships, and family, to political parties, policies, and ideologies. I&#8217;ve been very fortunate in my life to be surrounded by people that value their relationship with me over any disagreements we may hold on such things as political parties, public policy, and ideology. Like some of the others here I am best described as a Libertarian, though I register unaffiliated. I&#8217;ve always been of this mind, never a leftist or progressive or sympathetic to Democrats. My family, other than my wife and daughter, are uniformly Democrats of various degree.</p>
<p>The best advice for you in your situation Neo is to stay the course with the friends that will still have you and whose friendship you value. Most people that are friends will accept you as you are out of respect &#8211; to them you may be wrong but you are thoughtful, honest, and sincere. Maybe they won&#8217;t talk politics with you any longer but keeping them as friends will be worth it.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you.</p>
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		By: AMartel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AMartel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 21:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in San Francisco.  I&#039;ve lost people who I thought were my friends but, in fact, were in a cult.  In retrospect, it&#039;s a relief.  You get used to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in San Francisco.  I&#8217;ve lost people who I thought were my friends but, in fact, were in a cult.  In retrospect, it&#8217;s a relief.  You get used to it.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 19:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom:

If you had my friends, you would just puzzle people if you said you were a libertarian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:</p>
<p>If you had my friends, you would just puzzle people if you said you were a libertarian.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 19:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, yes it was a joke - I should have smiley-faced.  The point being, as you surmised, that as a libertarian you offend *everybody*.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, yes it was a joke &#8211; I should have smiley-faced.  The point being, as you surmised, that as a libertarian you offend *everybody*.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 17:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Diplomad has some cautionary thoughts about &quot;red flag laws&quot;:

https://www.thediplomad.com/2019/08/toxic-culture-and-red-flags.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diplomad has some cautionary thoughts about &#8220;red flag laws&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thediplomad.com/2019/08/toxic-culture-and-red-flags.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thediplomad.com/2019/08/toxic-culture-and-red-flags.html</a></p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/06/what-happens-when-you-step-outside-the-circle-real-friends/#comment-2447951</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 17:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Angelo Codevilla, American Greatness: &lt;i&gt;Igniting Civil War&lt;/i&gt;

https://amgreatness.com/2019/08/06/igniting-civil-war/

Coming from Codevilla -- who I believe has been fairly foresightful the last many years -- this analysis gives one to a serious pause. Not a peaceful nor a happy pause at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angelo Codevilla, American Greatness: <i>Igniting Civil War</i></p>
<p><a href="https://amgreatness.com/2019/08/06/igniting-civil-war/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://amgreatness.com/2019/08/06/igniting-civil-war/</a></p>
<p>Coming from Codevilla &#8212; who I believe has been fairly foresightful the last many years &#8212; this analysis gives one to a serious pause. Not a peaceful nor a happy pause at all.</p>
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		By: KyndyllG		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/08/06/what-happens-when-you-step-outside-the-circle-real-friends/#comment-2447919</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KyndyllG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 14:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My extreme lefty friends and acquaintances on Facebook are mostly people I know in real life. Those friends that do nothing but spout far left nonsense 24/7 are people we used to do things with if not daily then often multiple times a week. Politics rarely came into the conversation. It was clear that my husband and I were the only conservatives in pretty much any room, but it wasn&#039;t a factor in our friendships.

Until the Obama years, intensifying with the election of Trump, that is. During the Obama years, I watched their public interactions in places like Facebook stop including posts about kids and pets, work and the house, etc, as they became parrots that were incapable of a conversation that didn&#039;t somehow have something to do with the hard left Opinion of the Day or vilifying anyone who disagreed with, or voted differently than, them. After the Trump election, they literally became screaming, irrational infants. I specifically remember when one of my husband&#039;s friends said, &quot;If you voted for Trump, just unfriend me now.&quot; It&#039;s as if they&#039;re all completely brainwashed, or under the influence of a hallucinogenic drug; they seem to literally believe that they are living in 1930s Germany and/or 1940s Europe and are incapable of grasping that there is a difference between expecting people to follow immigration law and invading other nations and shipping those nations&#039; Jews and other undesirables by the trainload back to camps to sort into lines for &quot;immediate execution&quot; and &quot;work labor.&quot; Even attempting to debate the subject marks you as evil. I suspect that Millennials have probably not had useful instruction in history, which makes them especially vulnerable to believing lies, but our friends are older GenXers; we learned basic history.

What&#039;s worse are the professional colleagues. I don&#039;t know that anyone I work with now, or at any previous job, is a conservative. If they are, they&#039;re hiding it like I am, no doubt for the same reason - desire to keep that job. I&#039;ve always known that my co-workers at one particular job were hard leftys. Back in the day, years before Obama was a thing, they knew I was a conservative and openly harassed me in the workplace for it. I would never dream of walking up to someone at work and challenging or mocking them for their political beliefs, but even pre-Obama, I had lefty democrats do it to me. And I learned their tactics early on: they would berate me for believing &quot;A&quot; because of reason &quot;B&quot;; of course, I did not believe &quot;A&quot; and what I did believe was not remotely because of reason &quot;B&quot;, but leftists always project themselves into fantasies of what the enemy believes … always. They don&#039;t, and never did, understand that conservatives are not just evil opposites of themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My extreme lefty friends and acquaintances on Facebook are mostly people I know in real life. Those friends that do nothing but spout far left nonsense 24/7 are people we used to do things with if not daily then often multiple times a week. Politics rarely came into the conversation. It was clear that my husband and I were the only conservatives in pretty much any room, but it wasn&#8217;t a factor in our friendships.</p>
<p>Until the Obama years, intensifying with the election of Trump, that is. During the Obama years, I watched their public interactions in places like Facebook stop including posts about kids and pets, work and the house, etc, as they became parrots that were incapable of a conversation that didn&#8217;t somehow have something to do with the hard left Opinion of the Day or vilifying anyone who disagreed with, or voted differently than, them. After the Trump election, they literally became screaming, irrational infants. I specifically remember when one of my husband&#8217;s friends said, &#8220;If you voted for Trump, just unfriend me now.&#8221; It&#8217;s as if they&#8217;re all completely brainwashed, or under the influence of a hallucinogenic drug; they seem to literally believe that they are living in 1930s Germany and/or 1940s Europe and are incapable of grasping that there is a difference between expecting people to follow immigration law and invading other nations and shipping those nations&#8217; Jews and other undesirables by the trainload back to camps to sort into lines for &#8220;immediate execution&#8221; and &#8220;work labor.&#8221; Even attempting to debate the subject marks you as evil. I suspect that Millennials have probably not had useful instruction in history, which makes them especially vulnerable to believing lies, but our friends are older GenXers; we learned basic history.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse are the professional colleagues. I don&#8217;t know that anyone I work with now, or at any previous job, is a conservative. If they are, they&#8217;re hiding it like I am, no doubt for the same reason &#8211; desire to keep that job. I&#8217;ve always known that my co-workers at one particular job were hard leftys. Back in the day, years before Obama was a thing, they knew I was a conservative and openly harassed me in the workplace for it. I would never dream of walking up to someone at work and challenging or mocking them for their political beliefs, but even pre-Obama, I had lefty democrats do it to me. And I learned their tactics early on: they would berate me for believing &#8220;A&#8221; because of reason &#8220;B&#8221;; of course, I did not believe &#8220;A&#8221; and what I did believe was not remotely because of reason &#8220;B&#8221;, but leftists always project themselves into fantasies of what the enemy believes … always. They don&#8217;t, and never did, understand that conservatives are not just evil opposites of themselves.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 14:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Uffda]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uffda</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 13:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the land of a thousand lakes is it not a wonder this group has eschewed the name Butter Angels?  What more unifying substance might we ask for?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the land of a thousand lakes is it not a wonder this group has eschewed the name Butter Angels?  What more unifying substance might we ask for?</p>
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