Comments on: Political change: the liberals

By: scf

scf — Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:26:55 +0000

Many people believe what their friends and families believe. That’s why there are inter-connected regions that are largely left, and others that are largely right. The non-thinking followers cause that phenomenon which is clearly caused by people being influenced by the people nearest to them.
Within those regions are people who make their own opinions, so the left leaning places always have 30% support for the right, and vice-versa.
Rarely do regions go 90% one way or the other, although if you have enough of the following type in one place this can happen, like in urban centers. So this means that 2/3 of the population are capable of making their own minds and 1/3 follows the majority of the people around them. Of the 2/3 that believe what they wanna believe, many of them are very close-minded, maybe half, they will see information but once they go one way, they will remain locked into a single-minded way of thinking and will almost never waver no matter what they see. These people are the communist-revolutionary types, for them logic is absent while religious fervour holds sway.
So I think 1/3 are just followers, 1/3 are close-minded believers, and the remaining 1/3 are open-minded people that are capable of objectively seeking out information and evaluating it, and even changing their minds about it.

By: neo

neo — Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:38:57 +0000

Bob: I never got the impression that the leftism known as Communism was predominantly female in the USSR. I've never seen statistics on it, though. And of course women were involved. But as far as I know they did not predominate. In addition, although there are plenty of female leftists it is actually liberalism (of the modern, not the classical, variety) that is more female than male in America today. There's a difference between leftism and liberalism. I've written about it before. In polls that ask a person if he or she is conservative, moderate, or liberal, in 2018 for women it was 30, 35, and 30. Quite evenly split. For men it was 40, 35, 21. So according to those self-reports, women are equally split and men are more conservative, but women are not predominantly liberal. What I was looking for, though, was a poll of people who self-identify as "leftists" or "progressives" or "very liberal." I couldn't find one, but my guess is that men and women are similar in terms of percentage, or even that men might have a higher percentage of self-reported leftists than women do. I can't find a poll that asks that question, or even that asks people if they are "very liberal", which sometimes is a way of asking that question.

By: Bob

Bob — Fri, 26 Jul 2019 18:51:05 +0000

The difference in left/right ideology between men and women is striking and not commented on (much?) in these threads. I recall reading that purportedly Republican women in the suburbs voted 60-40 for the Dems in 2018. Similarly, I have read that no Democrat president in recent times has won a majority of the men’s vote.

Leftism is basically a female ideology. Even men leftists are feminized–witness pajama boy and the man-bun, skinny pants wearing left wing hipsters. Not to go too MCP but women, our esteemed hostess a notable exception OF COURSE, notoriously arrive at their beliefs through emotion rather than reason. This helps to explain how the two sides talk past each other. Their beliefs are based on different bases.

By: R.C.

R.C. — Thu, 25 Jul 2019 05:30:00 +0000

Tim Pool’s take is that the left is fractured, and that the exhausted moderate-left majority are afraid of the radical left and don’t speak out because they’re afraid for their jobs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jeokbOJRU

By: Gerard vanderleun

Gerard vanderleun — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:35:24 +0000

None of those liberals will ever wake up at this point except when they wake up inside a fire.

“you
told him:i told
him;we told him
(he didn’t believe it,no

sir)it took
a nipponized bit of
the old sixth

avenue
el;in the top of his head:to tell

him”

By: n.n

n.n — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:51:02 +0000

How do you even stumble across so called Conservative or “right wing” ideas if they aren’t available?

Center, in an American context. The “right wing” is libertarian. The extreme right, or left-right nexus, is totalitarian/anarchist.

By: n.n

n.n — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:49:32 +0000

How do you even stumble across so called Conservative or “right wing” ideas if they aren’t available?

Start with the corporate charter: Declaration of Independence, add the corporate bylaws: The Constitution, moderate with moral principles, then reconcile with Nature (e.g. our Posterity), until you realize something internally, externally, and mutually consistent.

By: Sergey

Sergey — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:50:02 +0000

Curiosity and looking for a new and unknown is the driver of any change, but for majority of people being in comfort zone is more important. This is so obvious for university students demanding “safe spaces” where they would never be challenged by the views they do not hold. Innovators and explorers are always a tiny fraction of the general population, for the latter conformism is reflexive and saves them from necessity to think for themselves. Which is, in itself, a rather hard labor they seek to avoid.

By: Ilion

Ilion — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 05:38:47 +0000

“Well of course, an arch angel, even if a fallen would, have a suffix of “El” to connote with Elohim: an elohim being a god like or spiritual entity.”

The meaning of ‘elohim‘ is broader than “a god like or spiritual entity” — it means “one who is lifted-up/exalted”.

Magistrates were called “elohim”, and they were not “god like or spiritual entities”.

When Saul went to the Witch of Endor, after she had done her hocus-pocus, he asked her what she saw, and she said (seemingly in surprise) that she saw “elohim rising up out of the ground“. I suppose ghosts count as “spiritual entities” … but, the key point is that what she said she saw were beings being raised-up (from, apparently, Sheol).

By: parker

parker — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 05:20:26 +0000

I get that self identified liberals are different than ‘progressives’ who are actually totalitarians. However, as Mao would say, liberals are the running dog lackeys of the totalitarians. Liberals are the last ones to visit the guillotines once the totalitarians cease power. What comfort they may find in their final hours will be transitory. Fools they are, who do not know history or how totalitarian overlords come to power.