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		By: Magnus		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Conservatives&#039; views on Antifa appear to be changing to the more pragmatic, calling them communists &#038; terrorists, rather than just &quot;Antifa&quot; or anarchists.

Yesterday on his Periscope blog, Scott Adams (of Dilbert &#038; &quot;How to Win Bigly&quot; fame) called for the death penalty for any Antifa member who strikes anyone in the head... 

I won&#039;t be surprised if America&#039;s military gets involved soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives&#8217; views on Antifa appear to be changing to the more pragmatic, calling them communists &amp; terrorists, rather than just &#8220;Antifa&#8221; or anarchists.</p>
<p>Yesterday on his Periscope blog, Scott Adams (of Dilbert &amp; &#8220;How to Win Bigly&#8221; fame) called for the death penalty for any Antifa member who strikes anyone in the head&#8230; </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be surprised if America&#8217;s military gets involved soon.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine on July 3, 2019 at 5:16 pm said:
BTW–Look what we may have to look forward to, if these attacks–particularly these attacks with caustic substances–aren’t stopped, and hard.
* * *

In another post, Neo linked her article from 2016 about Robespierre and the French Revolution.  It seems very appropriate to this situation.

https://www.thenewneo.com/2016/05/21/the-tyranny-of-virtue-robespierre-and-the-reign-of-terror/
&lt;blockquote&gt;Very early in the uprising that became known as the French Revolution, massacres had been perpetrated by the mob itself. During the Reign of Terror, revolutionary leaders Robespierre and many of the other Jacobins rationalized their use of government as an instrument of terror to prevent more terror by the mob:
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not entirely sure which faction will eventually be playing the part of &quot;government&quot; -- no one on either side seems to be preventing the terrorist attacks at the moment --  but Antifa certainly qualifies as the mob.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine on July 3, 2019 at 5:16 pm said:<br />
BTW–Look what we may have to look forward to, if these attacks–particularly these attacks with caustic substances–aren’t stopped, and hard.<br />
* * *</p>
<p>In another post, Neo linked her article from 2016 about Robespierre and the French Revolution.  It seems very appropriate to this situation.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2016/05/21/the-tyranny-of-virtue-robespierre-and-the-reign-of-terror/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2016/05/21/the-tyranny-of-virtue-robespierre-and-the-reign-of-terror/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Very early in the uprising that became known as the French Revolution, massacres had been perpetrated by the mob itself. During the Reign of Terror, revolutionary leaders Robespierre and many of the other Jacobins rationalized their use of government as an instrument of terror to prevent more terror by the mob:
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<p>I&#8217;m not entirely sure which faction will eventually be playing the part of &#8220;government&#8221; &#8212; no one on either side seems to be preventing the terrorist attacks at the moment &#8212;  but Antifa certainly qualifies as the mob.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/07/02/antifa-and-anti-masking-laws/#comment-2441199</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW--Look what we may have to look forward to, if these attacks--particularly these attacks with caustic substances--aren&#039;t stopped, and hard. 

According to reports, the current rate of acid attacks in the UK is 15 per week, with the majority of them taking place in London. 

I ran across one article, discussing these attacks, but have decided not to link to that particular article, because it showed the results of such acid attacks, which were just too gruesome for public viewing, truly the stuff of horror movies and nightmares.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW&#8211;Look what we may have to look forward to, if these attacks&#8211;particularly these attacks with caustic substances&#8211;aren&#8217;t stopped, and hard. </p>
<p>According to reports, the current rate of acid attacks in the UK is 15 per week, with the majority of them taking place in London. </p>
<p>I ran across one article, discussing these attacks, but have decided not to link to that particular article, because it showed the results of such acid attacks, which were just too gruesome for public viewing, truly the stuff of horror movies and nightmares.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps these ANTIFA thugs are importing the delightful Middle Eastern habit of throwing caustic substances/acid in people&#039;s faces, which is now &quot;the new normal&quot; in Londonistan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps these ANTIFA thugs are importing the delightful Middle Eastern habit of throwing caustic substances/acid in people&#8217;s faces, which is now &#8220;the new normal&#8221; in Londonistan.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;  &quot;The act of throwing any substance on another person without that person’s consent constitutes the crime of harassment (ORS 166.065).  &quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not an assault and battery?

Some people, progressives by and large, really do have a much laxer sense of personal boundaries.

Of course, in their particular cases, they may know something about their own specific value and dignity - or lack thereof - which is not quite so immediately apparent to a normal human. Though sometimes, a quick glance at them and a moment of observing their behavior reveals enough to make a rough judgment.

Can there really be social amity with a set of people on the one hand whose psyches so crave attention that personal violations and molestation are just considered another more or less workaday form of it, and those on the other, who refuse to accept these assaults as the price of a theoretically worthwhile association?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8221;  &#8220;The act of throwing any substance on another person without that person’s consent constitutes the crime of harassment (ORS 166.065).  &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>Not an assault and battery?</p>
<p>Some people, progressives by and large, really do have a much laxer sense of personal boundaries.</p>
<p>Of course, in their particular cases, they may know something about their own specific value and dignity &#8211; or lack thereof &#8211; which is not quite so immediately apparent to a normal human. Though sometimes, a quick glance at them and a moment of observing their behavior reveals enough to make a rough judgment.</p>
<p>Can there really be social amity with a set of people on the one hand whose psyches so crave attention that personal violations and molestation are just considered another more or less workaday form of it, and those on the other, who refuse to accept these assaults as the price of a theoretically worthwhile association?</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 14:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Why do cities such as Portland even have a police department?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To keep a battered bourgeoisie from getting out of line during public hearings as city council rezones their properties and increases their taxes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Why do cities such as Portland even have a police department?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>To keep a battered bourgeoisie from getting out of line during public hearings as city council rezones their properties and increases their taxes.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 14:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So thats how Portland rolls.  Keeping the streets safe and secure for progressive expression since 2016 and longer.  Go and Ngo zones it appears.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So thats how Portland rolls.  Keeping the streets safe and secure for progressive expression since 2016 and longer.  Go and Ngo zones it appears.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om—found what I believe is the mentioned 2016 video, of a man, Michael Strickland, 37, taking pictures of a large crowd—looks like many hundreds of people, could be a thousand—of “Black Lives Matters” protestors yelling “Black Lives Matter” and walking down what appears to be a main street in Portland, and many of them are masked.

According to his WIKI bio, Strickland contributed blog posts to a website called “Progressives Today,” and he had a Youtube website called “LaughingatLiberals” with 20,000 subscribers. 

He was photographing with what appeared to be a “homebrew” setup—a camera inside what appeared to be a large plastic water container with a window cut out of the front of it. 
 
The video runs 12 plus minutes—only looked at the first couple, were he draws his gun when a group of “protestors” from the front of the crowd start to crowd around him, he pulls a Glock and aims it generally at them and, then, after they back off a little, he holsters his gun, and keeps taking pictures, as someone in the background says’ “just leave,” but members of the crowd keep moving in on him as he walks backward. 

No cops seen around during the actual protest (but with one undercover cop supposedly in the crowd).  

So, then, a dozen or so cops arrived in force—armored up the wazoo, long guns, batons—and arrested Strickland who had, by that time, moved a block or so away from the main crowd. 

Comment left on the video said he was later charged and convicted of 10 counts of unlawful use of a weapon, ten counts of menacing, and one count of second degree disorderly conduct.

According to WIKI Strickland was ultimately sentenced to 40 days in jail, 240 hours of community service, banned from taking video of people or events for at least 2017, and is also banned from owning guns, etc.

The WIKI article noted that his Glock was loaded with “one in the pipe,” that it had “an extremely large magazine” (and in parentheses after that statement said 120 rounds in multiple magazines) and then further down in the article said that he had five loaded clips on him.

I do think that the five loaded clips thing was way too many.  

The Wiki article also mentioned that the was a member of ooh, “Portland State University for Trump,” and had been taking photos for Progressives Today during Portland State University’s “Whiteness History Month,” in April 2016 (as if that were some crime) and their were mentions that the had been accused of threatening and mocking some people, etc. 

A pre-sentencing memo claimed that he suffered from “Autistic tendencies or Aspergers.”  

Not, it seems to me, the best case for use of a weapon to defend yourself.

The ironic thing is that some of the coverage of this incident was credited to, of all people, &quot;Andy Ngo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om—found what I believe is the mentioned 2016 video, of a man, Michael Strickland, 37, taking pictures of a large crowd—looks like many hundreds of people, could be a thousand—of “Black Lives Matters” protestors yelling “Black Lives Matter” and walking down what appears to be a main street in Portland, and many of them are masked.</p>
<p>According to his WIKI bio, Strickland contributed blog posts to a website called “Progressives Today,” and he had a Youtube website called “LaughingatLiberals” with 20,000 subscribers. </p>
<p>He was photographing with what appeared to be a “homebrew” setup—a camera inside what appeared to be a large plastic water container with a window cut out of the front of it. </p>
<p>The video runs 12 plus minutes—only looked at the first couple, were he draws his gun when a group of “protestors” from the front of the crowd start to crowd around him, he pulls a Glock and aims it generally at them and, then, after they back off a little, he holsters his gun, and keeps taking pictures, as someone in the background says’ “just leave,” but members of the crowd keep moving in on him as he walks backward. </p>
<p>No cops seen around during the actual protest (but with one undercover cop supposedly in the crowd).  </p>
<p>So, then, a dozen or so cops arrived in force—armored up the wazoo, long guns, batons—and arrested Strickland who had, by that time, moved a block or so away from the main crowd. </p>
<p>Comment left on the video said he was later charged and convicted of 10 counts of unlawful use of a weapon, ten counts of menacing, and one count of second degree disorderly conduct.</p>
<p>According to WIKI Strickland was ultimately sentenced to 40 days in jail, 240 hours of community service, banned from taking video of people or events for at least 2017, and is also banned from owning guns, etc.</p>
<p>The WIKI article noted that his Glock was loaded with “one in the pipe,” that it had “an extremely large magazine” (and in parentheses after that statement said 120 rounds in multiple magazines) and then further down in the article said that he had five loaded clips on him.</p>
<p>I do think that the five loaded clips thing was way too many.  </p>
<p>The Wiki article also mentioned that the was a member of ooh, “Portland State University for Trump,” and had been taking photos for Progressives Today during Portland State University’s “Whiteness History Month,” in April 2016 (as if that were some crime) and their were mentions that the had been accused of threatening and mocking some people, etc. </p>
<p>A pre-sentencing memo claimed that he suffered from “Autistic tendencies or Aspergers.”  </p>
<p>Not, it seems to me, the best case for use of a weapon to defend yourself.</p>
<p>The ironic thing is that some of the coverage of this incident was credited to, of all people, &#8220;Andy Ngo.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 03:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[here is the Instapundit link

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/334890/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is the Instapundit link</p>
<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/334890/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/334890/</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 03:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From Instapundit:

Antifa &#039;milkshake&#039; recepie


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July 2, 2019

POLICE POST PHOTOS OF ANDY NGO’S ATTACKERS, SPECIAL ANTIFA ‘MILKSHAKE RECIPE:’

    Authorities also posted an image of an alleged Antifa “milkshake recipe.” The recipe calls for soy milk, Quickrete cement mix, and “other chemical additives to cause long term injury and burns.”

    “We hope the biggie officers and proud boys enjoyed the shake back!” the “recipe” said.

    Ngo was so-called “milkshaked,” kicked, punched, and robbed during the attack.

    “Prior to the event, information was circulating that some participants planned to throw milkshakes on others. As the event progressed, officers learned from some participants that a substance similar to quick drying concrete was being added to some of the ‘milkshakes,’” the press release said.

    “A Lieutenant in the field observed some of the material and noted the texture and smell was consistent with concrete,” the post continued. “The Portland Police Bureau sent a tweet out to bring attention to this potential hazard and to encourage victims to contact us. The act of throwing any substance on another person without that person’s consent constitutes the crime of harassment (ORS 166.065).”

    The image of the “milkshake recipe” was then anonymous sent via email to the bureau.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Instapundit:</p>
<p>Antifa &#8216;milkshake&#8217; recepie</p>
<p>« MEANWHILE, BACK IN IRAQ: Reuters reports: Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi issued a decre…<br />
ROBERT GOLDBERG: Vaper Madness. E-cigarettes, while not a cure for nicotine dependence, can help … »<br />
July 2, 2019</p>
<p>POLICE POST PHOTOS OF ANDY NGO’S ATTACKERS, SPECIAL ANTIFA ‘MILKSHAKE RECIPE:’</p>
<p>    Authorities also posted an image of an alleged Antifa “milkshake recipe.” The recipe calls for soy milk, Quickrete cement mix, and “other chemical additives to cause long term injury and burns.”</p>
<p>    “We hope the biggie officers and proud boys enjoyed the shake back!” the “recipe” said.</p>
<p>    Ngo was so-called “milkshaked,” kicked, punched, and robbed during the attack.</p>
<p>    “Prior to the event, information was circulating that some participants planned to throw milkshakes on others. As the event progressed, officers learned from some participants that a substance similar to quick drying concrete was being added to some of the ‘milkshakes,’” the press release said.</p>
<p>    “A Lieutenant in the field observed some of the material and noted the texture and smell was consistent with concrete,” the post continued. “The Portland Police Bureau sent a tweet out to bring attention to this potential hazard and to encourage victims to contact us. The act of throwing any substance on another person without that person’s consent constitutes the crime of harassment (ORS 166.065).”</p>
<p>    The image of the “milkshake recipe” was then anonymous sent via email to the bureau.</p>
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