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	Comments on: NYC public education has become dedicated to racial categories: Part II	</title>
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		By: Molly Brown		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440215</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mac,

I&#039;d love to know the name of that &#039;condition&#039;. That must be what my husband and son have and why I am forbidden to eat carrots around them!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to know the name of that &#8216;condition&#8217;. That must be what my husband and son have and why I am forbidden to eat carrots around them!</p>
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		By: Molly Brown		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440213</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The purpose of public schools is not to educate.  The purpose of public schools is to keep kids off the street and employ Democrat voters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of public schools is not to educate.  The purpose of public schools is to keep kids off the street and employ Democrat voters.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Addendum, the workforce of the Community and Social Service sector is about 20.4% black and accounts for about 3% of the black workforce.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum, the workforce of the Community and Social Service sector is about 20.4% black and accounts for about 3% of the black workforce.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440193</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If you look at the statistics you will find that government employment, local, state, federal, accounts for about 1/3 of black employment. &lt;/i&gt;

No, you won&#039;t find that, because it isn&#039;t true.  Blacks constitute 12% of the working population. The industries which are in the public sector by definition or have extensive intersection with the public sector have workforces in which blacks have the following shares:

Public administration: 16.9%
Social assistance: 19.5%
Educational services: 11.5%
Utilities: 9%
Transportation: 21%

Collectively, these sectors encompass 27% of the black workforce.  However, there are scads of private sector employees in these sectors and blacks employed in public administration account for just 6.6% of the black workforce. 


The only discrete occupations where black workers make up more than a quarter of the total are slaughterhouse employees (25.5%), bus and urban transit employees (35.6%), taxi and limousine service employees (30.2%), postal workers (28.6%), car rental employees (25.8%), security guards (27%), home health aides (26.1%), nursing home employees (28.6%), residential care employees (ex nursing homes) (26.3%), and barbers (30.8%).    (About 2% of all black employees work for the postal service or local transit services).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you look at the statistics you will find that government employment, local, state, federal, accounts for about 1/3 of black employment. </i></p>
<p>No, you won&#8217;t find that, because it isn&#8217;t true.  Blacks constitute 12% of the working population. The industries which are in the public sector by definition or have extensive intersection with the public sector have workforces in which blacks have the following shares:</p>
<p>Public administration: 16.9%<br />
Social assistance: 19.5%<br />
Educational services: 11.5%<br />
Utilities: 9%<br />
Transportation: 21%</p>
<p>Collectively, these sectors encompass 27% of the black workforce.  However, there are scads of private sector employees in these sectors and blacks employed in public administration account for just 6.6% of the black workforce. </p>
<p>The only discrete occupations where black workers make up more than a quarter of the total are slaughterhouse employees (25.5%), bus and urban transit employees (35.6%), taxi and limousine service employees (30.2%), postal workers (28.6%), car rental employees (25.8%), security guards (27%), home health aides (26.1%), nursing home employees (28.6%), residential care employees (ex nursing homes) (26.3%), and barbers (30.8%).    (About 2% of all black employees work for the postal service or local transit services).</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440191</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; Though there are definitely more blacks working tech in state or federal jobs.&quot;
Years ago I worked at the headquarters of a major Army command and noticed that there seemed to be a disproportionate number of people of color. If you look at the statistics you will find that government employment, local, state, federal, accounts for about 1/3 of black employment. The government is WPA for blacks.  What I found amusing was that the SES was practically all male and white.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Though there are definitely more blacks working tech in state or federal jobs.&#8221;<br />
Years ago I worked at the headquarters of a major Army command and noticed that there seemed to be a disproportionate number of people of color. If you look at the statistics you will find that government employment, local, state, federal, accounts for about 1/3 of black employment. The government is WPA for blacks.  What I found amusing was that the SES was practically all male and white.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440190</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Art Deco: I’d be curious to check your sources. &lt;/i&gt;

My sources are the &lt;i&gt;Digest of Education Statistics&lt;/i&gt;, which is published annually, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics&#039; data published online.  Blacks account for 6.6% of the population in the seven counties around San Francisco Bay, 6.8% of the population of the four counties around Los Angeles, and 2% of the population of New Mexico.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Art Deco: I’d be curious to check your sources. </i></p>
<p>My sources are the <i>Digest of Education Statistics</i>, which is published annually, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics&#8217; data published online.  Blacks account for 6.6% of the population in the seven counties around San Francisco Bay, 6.8% of the population of the four counties around Los Angeles, and 2% of the population of New Mexico.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[n.n]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Diversity (i.e. color judgment, including racism) is another euphemism in the PC catalog, which many people left and right have adopted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diversity (i.e. color judgment, including racism) is another euphemism in the PC catalog, which many people left and right have adopted.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440178</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As we speak, about 10% of the baccalaureate degrees in computer and information sciences are awarded to blacks. In 1995, the proportion was almost precisely the same. About 8.5% of those working in computer and mathematical occupations are black at this time. Affirmative action is a cancer, but I doubt it’s all that consequential in this segment of the economy.&lt;/i&gt;

Art Deco: I&#039;d be curious to check your sources. Those numbers don&#039;t match my experiences in California or New Mexico.

Working as a software engineer in the Bay Area and Silicon Valley, I saw that blacks were at best 1-2%. As a STEM student at UNM, that&#039;s what I&#039;m seeing in math and computer courses. 

Of course, those are anecdotal numbers. But I have trouble believing the real numbers are 5x or more. Though there are definitely more blacks working tech in state or federal jobs.

Looking over the web, I can&#039;t find your 10% bachelor degrees and 8.5% employment numbers anywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As we speak, about 10% of the baccalaureate degrees in computer and information sciences are awarded to blacks. In 1995, the proportion was almost precisely the same. About 8.5% of those working in computer and mathematical occupations are black at this time. Affirmative action is a cancer, but I doubt it’s all that consequential in this segment of the economy.</i></p>
<p>Art Deco: I&#8217;d be curious to check your sources. Those numbers don&#8217;t match my experiences in California or New Mexico.</p>
<p>Working as a software engineer in the Bay Area and Silicon Valley, I saw that blacks were at best 1-2%. As a STEM student at UNM, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m seeing in math and computer courses. </p>
<p>Of course, those are anecdotal numbers. But I have trouble believing the real numbers are 5x or more. Though there are definitely more blacks working tech in state or federal jobs.</p>
<p>Looking over the web, I can&#8217;t find your 10% bachelor degrees and 8.5% employment numbers anywhere.</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440168</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 03:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...changing mindsets around equity...&quot; This recent academic/quasi-academic fad of substituting &quot;around&quot; for &quot;about&quot; is fingernails-on-chalkboard-level grating to my ear. Frequently it&#039;s combined with another and somewhat lesser annoyance, the overuse of &quot;have [or having] a conversation [or conversations].&quot; As in &quot;We will be having conversations around equity.&quot; 

I would find it very difficult to continue a conversation with a person who used it,  because I would not be able to control my irritation. Petty and hypersensitive, I guess, but I read somewhere recently (here?) that there is actually a name for the condition in which one is unreasonably and disproportionately angered by loud chewing and similar sounds. I&#039;m that way about some of these verbal tics. 

The use of &quot;bodies&quot; for &quot;people&quot; is another one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;changing mindsets around equity&#8230;&#8221; This recent academic/quasi-academic fad of substituting &#8220;around&#8221; for &#8220;about&#8221; is fingernails-on-chalkboard-level grating to my ear. Frequently it&#8217;s combined with another and somewhat lesser annoyance, the overuse of &#8220;have [or having] a conversation [or conversations].&#8221; As in &#8220;We will be having conversations around equity.&#8221; </p>
<p>I would find it very difficult to continue a conversation with a person who used it,  because I would not be able to control my irritation. Petty and hypersensitive, I guess, but I read somewhere recently (here?) that there is actually a name for the condition in which one is unreasonably and disproportionately angered by loud chewing and similar sounds. I&#8217;m that way about some of these verbal tics. </p>
<p>The use of &#8220;bodies&#8221; for &#8220;people&#8221; is another one.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/22/nyc-public-education-has-become-dedicated-to-racial-categories-part-ii/#comment-2440167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She&#039;s a &#039;consultant&#039;, i.e. grifter.  


Her real enemy isn&#039;t &#039;racists&#039;, it&#039;s someone who is willing and able to undertake valid and reliable social research.  And the stones to get it published.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s a &#8216;consultant&#8217;, i.e. grifter.  </p>
<p>Her real enemy isn&#8217;t &#8216;racists&#8217;, it&#8217;s someone who is willing and able to undertake valid and reliable social research.  And the stones to get it published.</p>
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