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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/11/bars-without-alcohol-its-a-trend/#comment-2438603</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is like Mormons and Prohibition put together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is like Mormons and Prohibition put together.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/11/bars-without-alcohol-its-a-trend/#comment-2438600</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom: Be even better if they are having real world fun together before&lt;em&gt; getting married &lt;/em&gt;and THEN having sex.

So many of the complainants about the hookup culture and its disappointments for women (mostly, and also some men) are suggesting &quot;remedies&quot; that look an awful lot like old-skool marriage vows aka contracts, without the icky lifetime commitments and religious vibes.

Even if you don&#039;t accept &quot;God told us to do it this way,&quot; there are lots of good reasons why all viable civilizations have (or had, before becoming non-viable) some variation of the highly-mandated man-woman-family commitment thing.  

Why are so many liberals rejecting multi-culti diversity?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom: Be even better if they are having real world fun together before<em> getting married </em>and THEN having sex.</p>
<p>So many of the complainants about the hookup culture and its disappointments for women (mostly, and also some men) are suggesting &#8220;remedies&#8221; that look an awful lot like old-skool marriage vows aka contracts, without the icky lifetime commitments and religious vibes.</p>
<p>Even if you don&#8217;t accept &#8220;God told us to do it this way,&#8221; there are lots of good reasons why all viable civilizations have (or had, before becoming non-viable) some variation of the highly-mandated man-woman-family commitment thing.  </p>
<p>Why are so many liberals rejecting multi-culti diversity?</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2019 09:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d guess they allow, possibly even encourage, vaping instead of smoking, at these ... neo-bars.

Part of me wants to make fun of these places, but a bigger part of me thinks it&#039;s great as an alternative to the coffee shop.  A coffee café is more for one or just a few friends, with very quiet and polite conversation.  In the day.  A bar is for more fun, after work, or at least at night.  If younger folk can have more fun without alcohol, that would be a small plus.

Maybe even reduce the stupid, terrible hookup culture with actual meeting folk and having real world fun together before having sex?

(Steve Martin says:  &lt;i&gt;Naaaaahhhhhh&lt;/i&gt;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d guess they allow, possibly even encourage, vaping instead of smoking, at these &#8230; neo-bars.</p>
<p>Part of me wants to make fun of these places, but a bigger part of me thinks it&#8217;s great as an alternative to the coffee shop.  A coffee café is more for one or just a few friends, with very quiet and polite conversation.  In the day.  A bar is for more fun, after work, or at least at night.  If younger folk can have more fun without alcohol, that would be a small plus.</p>
<p>Maybe even reduce the stupid, terrible hookup culture with actual meeting folk and having real world fun together before having sex?</p>
<p>(Steve Martin says:  <i>Naaaaahhhhhh</i>)</p>
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		By: Chuck		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/11/bars-without-alcohol-its-a-trend/#comment-2438558</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2019 02:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bars without brawls. Where will young men learn the proper use of a beer bottle?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bars without brawls. Where will young men learn the proper use of a beer bottle?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/11/bars-without-alcohol-its-a-trend/#comment-2438534</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad to see the rest of the world is catching up with the Latter-day Saints (**cough, cough**).
;)
Y81 - Kornbluth and some of the other Classic SF writers were sometimes pretty prophetic.

We could buy canned water about 20 years ago, and really liked the taste better than plastic; also easier to store and transport, and it fit in the soda can racks in the fridge. It didn&#039;t have a fancy name and wasn&#039;t marketed as faux beer.
So, they stopped making it of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see the rest of the world is catching up with the Latter-day Saints (**cough, cough**).<br />
😉<br />
Y81 &#8211; Kornbluth and some of the other Classic SF writers were sometimes pretty prophetic.</p>
<p>We could buy canned water about 20 years ago, and really liked the taste better than plastic; also easier to store and transport, and it fit in the soda can racks in the fridge. It didn&#8217;t have a fancy name and wasn&#8217;t marketed as faux beer.<br />
So, they stopped making it of course.</p>
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		By: SueK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SueK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Boy, am I ever out of it. I’ve been drinking water or club soda for many many decades, and I’ve never considered trying to hide that fact, or that there might be money to be made in developing a product that helps consumers hide that fact. &quot;

You mean you could do whatever you think is best for yourself - for whatever personal preferences you might have - and to heck with what other people think!  
More power to you!  It seems if our snowflakes today don&#039;t have the character to do that.  They have to have the approval of the crowd - or they&#039;re nothing.  

We definitely have trouble coming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Boy, am I ever out of it. I’ve been drinking water or club soda for many many decades, and I’ve never considered trying to hide that fact, or that there might be money to be made in developing a product that helps consumers hide that fact. &#8221;</p>
<p>You mean you could do whatever you think is best for yourself &#8211; for whatever personal preferences you might have &#8211; and to heck with what other people think!<br />
More power to you!  It seems if our snowflakes today don&#8217;t have the character to do that.  They have to have the approval of the crowd &#8211; or they&#8217;re nothing.  </p>
<p>We definitely have trouble coming.</p>
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		By: y81		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That Liquid Death reminds me of the cars in the Kornbluth story, &quot;Here Come the Marching Morons,&quot; which have fake speedometers that show them going much faster than they are along with fans to blow in the faces of the passengers so they think they are going really fast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Liquid Death reminds me of the cars in the Kornbluth story, &#8220;Here Come the Marching Morons,&#8221; which have fake speedometers that show them going much faster than they are along with fans to blow in the faces of the passengers so they think they are going really fast.</p>
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		By: Surellin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/11/bars-without-alcohol-its-a-trend/#comment-2438494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surellin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once it was no longer possible to smoke in a bar, I stopped going to them.  No smokes AND no drinks?  Why bother? :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once it was no longer possible to smoke in a bar, I stopped going to them.  No smokes AND no drinks?  Why bother? 🙂</p>
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		By: I R A Darth Aggie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/06/11/bars-without-alcohol-its-a-trend/#comment-2438490</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I R A Darth Aggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was under the impression those sorts of places were called &lt;i&gt;coffee shops&lt;/i&gt;. I must be mistaken. 

The last time I was in NYC (Dec 2001) and had a drink, it was $13. A vodka martini, shaken and &quot;as dirty as you wanna be&quot;. But that was at Club 54, which was then a theatre, and as such I presume a premium price.

I did a bit of digging on &quot;shrub&quot; and this is interesting. Its a food site, so they have additional recipes.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But first of all, what the heck is a shrub? A shrub is a concentrated syrup made from whole fruit, vinegar, and sugar. It’s then mixed with sparkling soda water for a delightful non-alcoholic beverage. If you’re drinking a shrub, you’re enjoying a fruity drunk that is sweet, refreshing, and a teeny bit tart (thanks to the vinegar).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

https://www.thekitchn.com/what-are-shrubs-and-which-ones-should-you-buy-for-your-next-party-242494]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression those sorts of places were called <i>coffee shops</i>. I must be mistaken. </p>
<p>The last time I was in NYC (Dec 2001) and had a drink, it was $13. A vodka martini, shaken and &#8220;as dirty as you wanna be&#8221;. But that was at Club 54, which was then a theatre, and as such I presume a premium price.</p>
<p>I did a bit of digging on &#8220;shrub&#8221; and this is interesting. Its a food site, so they have additional recipes.</p>
<blockquote><p>But first of all, what the heck is a shrub? A shrub is a concentrated syrup made from whole fruit, vinegar, and sugar. It’s then mixed with sparkling soda water for a delightful non-alcoholic beverage. If you’re drinking a shrub, you’re enjoying a fruity drunk that is sweet, refreshing, and a teeny bit tart (thanks to the vinegar).</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/what-are-shrubs-and-which-ones-should-you-buy-for-your-next-party-242494" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thekitchn.com/what-are-shrubs-and-which-ones-should-you-buy-for-your-next-party-242494</a></p>
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