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		By: Nobody Atall		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/05/28/yahoo-email-degenerates-further-in-the-name-of-progress/#comment-2436794</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nobody Atall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2019 22:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Switch to protonmail.com

As private and secure as it gets, nowadays]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switch to protonmail.com</p>
<p>As private and secure as it gets, nowadays</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/05/28/yahoo-email-degenerates-further-in-the-name-of-progress/#comment-2436754</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2019 18:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mail.com, rather than gmail.

Other than an annoying nagging when you don&#039;t logout normally, I&#039;ve mostly switched to mail.com for everything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mail.com, rather than gmail.</p>
<p>Other than an annoying nagging when you don&#8217;t logout normally, I&#8217;ve mostly switched to mail.com for everything.</p>
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		By: Surellin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/05/28/yahoo-email-degenerates-further-in-the-name-of-progress/#comment-2436497</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surellin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 15:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As far as I can tell, no new version of anything is an improvement on it&#039;s predecessor.  And the dratted kids will NOT get off of my lawn.  What a stupid world. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell, no new version of anything is an improvement on it&#8217;s predecessor.  And the dratted kids will NOT get off of my lawn.  What a stupid world. 🙂</p>
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		By: Bruce		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/05/28/yahoo-email-degenerates-further-in-the-name-of-progress/#comment-2436455</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 07:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s be a bit more technical. Email format doesn’t change, since it is an international standard (with exceptions like AOL which does weird things for internal AOL mail). What does change is the front end that you use. When you use Yahoo’s web based mail interface or email app, you are art their mercy. But most email providers also provide a more universal access, either POP3 or IMAP for incoming mail, and SMTP for outgoing mail. I used to use POP3, but now have switched over to IMAP for incoming mail, because it allows you to sync between various platforms (in my case 2 Windows laptops, one desktop, 4 iPads, and 2 iPhones). I use Thunderbird from Mozilla on Windows machines (I am sure that there are better email programs, but Thunderbird has even fairly consistent for better than a decade for me) and the built in Mail program for my IOS devices. Both Thunderbird and IOS Mail allow multiple accounts, which can be advantageous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be a bit more technical. Email format doesn’t change, since it is an international standard (with exceptions like AOL which does weird things for internal AOL mail). What does change is the front end that you use. When you use Yahoo’s web based mail interface or email app, you are art their mercy. But most email providers also provide a more universal access, either POP3 or IMAP for incoming mail, and SMTP for outgoing mail. I used to use POP3, but now have switched over to IMAP for incoming mail, because it allows you to sync between various platforms (in my case 2 Windows laptops, one desktop, 4 iPads, and 2 iPhones). I use Thunderbird from Mozilla on Windows machines (I am sure that there are better email programs, but Thunderbird has even fairly consistent for better than a decade for me) and the built in Mail program for my IOS devices. Both Thunderbird and IOS Mail allow multiple accounts, which can be advantageous.</p>
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		By: Donna B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 06:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was &quot;Oath&quot; that finally got me to change several things, my yahoo email being the first to go - I chose fastmail.com. Verizon was the second - I chose AT&#038;T, and have very few apps (not even voicemail). I do have a gmail account because I wanted their fiber internet. I figure everything I do on the internet is somehow tracked, but dang... google fiber is so much better and cheaper than comcast, I&#039;m a willing victim. It&#039;s certainly no worse than &quot;Oath&quot;. What I need to do is change my passwords more frequently for whatever accounts I think are important... but that&#039;s a PITA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was &#8220;Oath&#8221; that finally got me to change several things, my yahoo email being the first to go &#8211; I chose fastmail.com. Verizon was the second &#8211; I chose AT&amp;T, and have very few apps (not even voicemail). I do have a gmail account because I wanted their fiber internet. I figure everything I do on the internet is somehow tracked, but dang&#8230; google fiber is so much better and cheaper than comcast, I&#8217;m a willing victim. It&#8217;s certainly no worse than &#8220;Oath&#8221;. What I need to do is change my passwords more frequently for whatever accounts I think are important&#8230; but that&#8217;s a PITA.</p>
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		By: mikesixes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/05/28/yahoo-email-degenerates-further-in-the-name-of-progress/#comment-2436433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikesixes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 04:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ya know, you can keep your Yahoo account but use any email program you want. I really like Thunderbird for an email client.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, you can keep your Yahoo account but use any email program you want. I really like Thunderbird for an email client.</p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie near Chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 01:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MacAddict here.  Since our first Mac Plus -- I think it was -- back in the &#039;80s.

Mac OS 9 was very good for its time, in the later &#039;90s.  I began my life with Mac notebooks with a G3 Powerbook (gray screen, green letters) and it still works, but I yearned for something better, so I got the last of the G4 PowerBooks at then end of 2003.  Ran with OS X 10.3.3, Panther.  Updated to 10.3.4 and my Guardian angel told me that no subsequent update would be better.  The G4 is a tank, still runs fine with OS X 10.3.4 and Firefox to match, though it no longer gets every last website ... but you&#039;d be surprised.  I think it still gets YT, though I haven&#039;t checked in the last year or two.  The only problem I ever had with it was that the power supply died, and I had to replace it with a 3rd-party PS.  And the battery has been pushing up daisies for about 8 years now.  10.3.4 Panther was quite a good OS, and from reading reviews of 10.4 and then 10.5 I was not impressed with either.

In 2010 I couldn&#039;t resist the urge and I got a 2009-release MacBook Pro, with OS X 10.6.something.  I updated through the last 10.6, which was 10.6.8.   That is still my preferred OS, though it has no support and is long out-of-date.  But I think it is the best of the Mac OS&#039;s [apostrophe for clarity despite the Rule];  and in just the last few months I&#039;ve discovered that that&#039;s the opinion of many Mac users.  :smile:

Several years ago I got a MacBook Air to use when travelling.  It came with OS X 10.9, &quot;Mavericks.&quot;  Usable but not nearly as good as 10.6.8.  But I surely haven&#039;t heard of anything that sounds remotely better, so here I am still running it -- even though some sites such as my VISA bank will no longer accept this &quot;antiquated&quot; system, which is a pain.  At least I&#039;ve never been stupid enough to &quot;go paperless,&quot; although I do have autopay on my telephone.

So, the quality of the Mac systems has been going down for many years, as far as I&#039;m concerned.

If it ain&#039;t broke, don&#039;t fix it.  Even though the explanation for the frequent updates is supposed to be that that&#039;s the only way to defeat the malefactors who haunt Cyberspace.

As for Windows, my first machine for travelling was an Acer that I got 10 years ago.  It still runs -- with XP.  I never heard of a MS system after XP that sounded anywhere near as sturdy.

I also concur with the opinions of everybody else here about the quality of Yahoo e-mail.  As far as I&#039;m concerned the wreckage began in 2009, and has continued non-stop.  But it&#039;s still my main address.  I do have another outfit for my dearest-friends-only to use, unfortunately now down to just one correspondent.  :&#062;(

And a g-mail account for the junk mail that you get as soon as you sign up for a Google or Dreadful Disqus account.  I never even look at it.

Personally, I think that the best of the Computer Age and the Internet has came and went, at least for personal users.

Thanks for the opportunity to go vent my own unhappiness with the way the quality of the software systems has fallen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacAddict here.  Since our first Mac Plus &#8212; I think it was &#8212; back in the &#8217;80s.</p>
<p>Mac OS 9 was very good for its time, in the later &#8217;90s.  I began my life with Mac notebooks with a G3 Powerbook (gray screen, green letters) and it still works, but I yearned for something better, so I got the last of the G4 PowerBooks at then end of 2003.  Ran with OS X 10.3.3, Panther.  Updated to 10.3.4 and my Guardian angel told me that no subsequent update would be better.  The G4 is a tank, still runs fine with OS X 10.3.4 and Firefox to match, though it no longer gets every last website &#8230; but you&#8217;d be surprised.  I think it still gets YT, though I haven&#8217;t checked in the last year or two.  The only problem I ever had with it was that the power supply died, and I had to replace it with a 3rd-party PS.  And the battery has been pushing up daisies for about 8 years now.  10.3.4 Panther was quite a good OS, and from reading reviews of 10.4 and then 10.5 I was not impressed with either.</p>
<p>In 2010 I couldn&#8217;t resist the urge and I got a 2009-release MacBook Pro, with OS X 10.6.something.  I updated through the last 10.6, which was 10.6.8.   That is still my preferred OS, though it has no support and is long out-of-date.  But I think it is the best of the Mac OS&#8217;s [apostrophe for clarity despite the Rule];  and in just the last few months I&#8217;ve discovered that that&#8217;s the opinion of many Mac users.  🙂</p>
<p>Several years ago I got a MacBook Air to use when travelling.  It came with OS X 10.9, &#8220;Mavericks.&#8221;  Usable but not nearly as good as 10.6.8.  But I surely haven&#8217;t heard of anything that sounds remotely better, so here I am still running it &#8212; even though some sites such as my VISA bank will no longer accept this &#8220;antiquated&#8221; system, which is a pain.  At least I&#8217;ve never been stupid enough to &#8220;go paperless,&#8221; although I do have autopay on my telephone.</p>
<p>So, the quality of the Mac systems has been going down for many years, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
<p>If it ain&#8217;t broke, don&#8217;t fix it.  Even though the explanation for the frequent updates is supposed to be that that&#8217;s the only way to defeat the malefactors who haunt Cyberspace.</p>
<p>As for Windows, my first machine for travelling was an Acer that I got 10 years ago.  It still runs &#8212; with XP.  I never heard of a MS system after XP that sounded anywhere near as sturdy.</p>
<p>I also concur with the opinions of everybody else here about the quality of Yahoo e-mail.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned the wreckage began in 2009, and has continued non-stop.  But it&#8217;s still my main address.  I do have another outfit for my dearest-friends-only to use, unfortunately now down to just one correspondent.  :&gt;(</p>
<p>And a g-mail account for the junk mail that you get as soon as you sign up for a Google or Dreadful Disqus account.  I never even look at it.</p>
<p>Personally, I think that the best of the Computer Age and the Internet has came and went, at least for personal users.</p>
<p>Thanks for the opportunity to go vent my own unhappiness with the way the quality of the software systems has fallen.</p>
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		By: Gerard vanderleun		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard vanderleun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 01:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When it comes to the Eagles, I&#039;ve always got what you need, neo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to the Eagles, I&#8217;ve always got what you need, neo.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 00:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Microsoft, in particular, used to be one of the best in my opinion, but somewhere around the late 90s or early 2000s, they started turning over their design to artsy-fartsy types …&quot;  --  Rick G.

I agree except I suspect that the majority of the code writing/debugging/testing is now left up to low wage H1B visa holders.

Remember how the greenies and some financial types used to talk about &quot;peak oil&quot;?  I think that &quot;peak software (quality)&quot; came and went around the year 2000, and we&#039;ve been sliding downward ever since.

I&#039;ve been completely converted to Win10 for a few years and while it is semi-usable I would love to go back to Win7.
_____

How about them Eagles?  Nice concert clip.  Four guitarists, or five guitar necks; how else are you going to have a lead guitar duet?  Plus at least 3 guys that can sing really well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Microsoft, in particular, used to be one of the best in my opinion, but somewhere around the late 90s or early 2000s, they started turning over their design to artsy-fartsy types …&#8221;  &#8212;  Rick G.</p>
<p>I agree except I suspect that the majority of the code writing/debugging/testing is now left up to low wage H1B visa holders.</p>
<p>Remember how the greenies and some financial types used to talk about &#8220;peak oil&#8221;?  I think that &#8220;peak software (quality)&#8221; came and went around the year 2000, and we&#8217;ve been sliding downward ever since.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been completely converted to Win10 for a few years and while it is semi-usable I would love to go back to Win7.<br />
_____</p>
<p>How about them Eagles?  Nice concert clip.  Four guitarists, or five guitar necks; how else are you going to have a lead guitar duet?  Plus at least 3 guys that can sing really well.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2019 23:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suggest you all check out your Email address at this URL

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

You may be surprised by what you find.

Neo&#039;s yahoo Email account was harvested back in August, 2017.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you all check out your Email address at this URL</p>
<p><a href="https://haveibeenpwned.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://haveibeenpwned.com/</a></p>
<p>You may be surprised by what you find.</p>
<p>Neo&#8217;s yahoo Email account was harvested back in August, 2017.</p>
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