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		By: Yackums		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/05/10/i-think-a-lot-of-people-might-vote-for-trump-in-2020/#comment-2434607</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2019 08:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco - 
If you don&#039;t like Heinlein&#039;s use of &quot;poverty&quot; as different from how it&#039;s used today, try substituting &quot;scarcity&quot;.  That&#039;s not relative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco &#8211;<br />
If you don&#8217;t like Heinlein&#8217;s use of &#8220;poverty&#8221; as different from how it&#8217;s used today, try substituting &#8220;scarcity&#8221;.  That&#8217;s not relative.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2019 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump&#039;s massive effect on the Left &#038; the MSMs alone is WONDERFUL!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump&#8217;s massive effect on the Left &amp; the MSMs alone is WONDERFUL!!!</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2019 06:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco on May 10, 2019 at 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm said:
...I didn’t think at the time Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, or Michael Dukakis were particularly admirable examples of genus ‘public servant’. They were two cuts above what the Democratic Party took to serving us later. Miss ’em.

Tom Grey on May 11, 2019 at 4:13 am at 4:13 am said:
Thanks for a great summary, RC! “Immoral cad” on that private, sexual alpha-male not quite monogamous way which the Dems claimed, under Clinton’s perjury, was merely private sex.
* * *
At a few points in the last 10 years, I even found myself missing Bill.
That&#039;s how bad the Democrats have gotten.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco on May 10, 2019 at 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm said:<br />
&#8230;I didn’t think at the time Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, or Michael Dukakis were particularly admirable examples of genus ‘public servant’. They were two cuts above what the Democratic Party took to serving us later. Miss ’em.</p>
<p>Tom Grey on May 11, 2019 at 4:13 am at 4:13 am said:<br />
Thanks for a great summary, RC! “Immoral cad” on that private, sexual alpha-male not quite monogamous way which the Dems claimed, under Clinton’s perjury, was merely private sex.<br />
* * *<br />
At a few points in the last 10 years, I even found myself missing Bill.<br />
That&#8217;s how bad the Democrats have gotten.</p>
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		By: Griffin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2019 01:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For the most part I’ve been happy with the Trump presidency and obviously he has been infinitely better than Clinton but the tweeting continues to drive me nuts. I don’t mind some of the sillier stuff or even the Mueller tweets because I see a purpose in them but some issues are too big and effect too many people to be using that forum to comment. 

Prime example is his tweets about the China trade deal. I think they only confuse the matter as they lead the Chinese to draw conclusions that may or may not correct and probably contradicts what is being said in negotiations. And finally they cause havoc with the market which is not healthy. 

Sometimes staying quiet is the proper path and he has done that on some issues I wish he would do that with China.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part I’ve been happy with the Trump presidency and obviously he has been infinitely better than Clinton but the tweeting continues to drive me nuts. I don’t mind some of the sillier stuff or even the Mueller tweets because I see a purpose in them but some issues are too big and effect too many people to be using that forum to comment. </p>
<p>Prime example is his tweets about the China trade deal. I think they only confuse the matter as they lead the Chinese to draw conclusions that may or may not correct and probably contradicts what is being said in negotiations. And finally they cause havoc with the market which is not healthy. </p>
<p>Sometimes staying quiet is the proper path and he has done that on some issues I wish he would do that with China.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2019 00:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like many others here I started out as a &quot;reluctant Trumper&quot;.  But even in my early phase of skepticism I noted two things:

1)  I dismissed out of hand the scare talk, &quot;Hitler/Mussolini/authoritarian&quot;.  It just didn&#039;t make any sense to me.

2)  I saw he was striking a very deep nerve with the voting public.  Even if he didn&#039;t make it himself, I thought, these issues he surfaced were not going away

Nevertheless I was stunned when he won.  And equally stunned by the way he won, flipping Midwest industrial states that had been voting Democrat for generations.  Even now I don&#039;t think this has been fully assimilated.  Shortly I after the election I read about a Democrat meeting or rally where Joe Kennedy III  - who could be more mainstream Democrat than a Kennedy? - said, &quot;We&#039;ve got to figure out why all these longtime Democrats voted for Trump&quot; and he was booed.  Two and a half years later and their denial has only gotten worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many others here I started out as a &#8220;reluctant Trumper&#8221;.  But even in my early phase of skepticism I noted two things:</p>
<p>1)  I dismissed out of hand the scare talk, &#8220;Hitler/Mussolini/authoritarian&#8221;.  It just didn&#8217;t make any sense to me.</p>
<p>2)  I saw he was striking a very deep nerve with the voting public.  Even if he didn&#8217;t make it himself, I thought, these issues he surfaced were not going away</p>
<p>Nevertheless I was stunned when he won.  And equally stunned by the way he won, flipping Midwest industrial states that had been voting Democrat for generations.  Even now I don&#8217;t think this has been fully assimilated.  Shortly I after the election I read about a Democrat meeting or rally where Joe Kennedy III  &#8211; who could be more mainstream Democrat than a Kennedy? &#8211; said, &#8220;We&#8217;ve got to figure out why all these longtime Democrats voted for Trump&#8221; and he was booed.  Two and a half years later and their denial has only gotten worse.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2019 17:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

You are getting close to blasphemy questioning the genius of Heinlien, thanks for saying it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>You are getting close to blasphemy questioning the genius of Heinlien, thanks for saying it.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2019 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded—here and there, now and then—are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as ‘bad luck’.”&lt;/i&gt;

Heinlein is confused.  &#039;Poverty&#039; as the term is most commonly used refers not to an absolute standard of living but to a relative one.  &#039;The poor you will have with you always&#039; was not uttered during the 19th c. Age of Progress, but in 1st c. Judea.  

You&#039;ve had in the past advances and declines in the standard of living consequent to technological innovation and process improvements on the one hand and social and political breakdown on the other.  A fine example in historical time would be the economic implosion of much of Europe during the period running from the mid-3d century to the mid-7th century.  I really don&#039;t think you can attribute it to the expulsion of some hated population of geniuses.  There were instances during the Medieval period of European countries expelling their Jewish population.  It&#039;s possible that Spain (after 1492) and Britain (after 1292) suffered losses for throwing away human capital.  I don&#039;t think Heinlein&#039;s going to locate an economic historian who will advance the thesis that the injury to these countries was so severe as to constitute a &#039;lapse into abject poverty&#039; as the term &#039;poverty&#039; would have been understood during the Medieval period or the Renaissance.

Heinlein seems to be inspired by 20th century events, the &#039;throughout history&#039; flourish notwithstanding - the Communist countries and African states with colonial populations or middlemen minorities.  

And no, human capital isn&#039;t locked up in some tiny crew of geniuses.  It adheres to all of us to one degree or another.  And everyone who innovates is drawing on an already established body of technical knowledge to which others have added to in small increments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded—here and there, now and then—are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.<br />
This is known as ‘bad luck’.”</i></p>
<p>Heinlein is confused.  &#8216;Poverty&#8217; as the term is most commonly used refers not to an absolute standard of living but to a relative one.  &#8216;The poor you will have with you always&#8217; was not uttered during the 19th c. Age of Progress, but in 1st c. Judea.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve had in the past advances and declines in the standard of living consequent to technological innovation and process improvements on the one hand and social and political breakdown on the other.  A fine example in historical time would be the economic implosion of much of Europe during the period running from the mid-3d century to the mid-7th century.  I really don&#8217;t think you can attribute it to the expulsion of some hated population of geniuses.  There were instances during the Medieval period of European countries expelling their Jewish population.  It&#8217;s possible that Spain (after 1492) and Britain (after 1292) suffered losses for throwing away human capital.  I don&#8217;t think Heinlein&#8217;s going to locate an economic historian who will advance the thesis that the injury to these countries was so severe as to constitute a &#8216;lapse into abject poverty&#8217; as the term &#8216;poverty&#8217; would have been understood during the Medieval period or the Renaissance.</p>
<p>Heinlein seems to be inspired by 20th century events, the &#8216;throughout history&#8217; flourish notwithstanding &#8211; the Communist countries and African states with colonial populations or middlemen minorities.  </p>
<p>And no, human capital isn&#8217;t locked up in some tiny crew of geniuses.  It adheres to all of us to one degree or another.  And everyone who innovates is drawing on an already established body of technical knowledge to which others have added to in small increments.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2019 15:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[File under &quot;Stuff Donald Trump Knows, like, Tanstaafl&quot;: Cuba starts widespread rationing of food and other basics

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cuba-food-shortage-rationing-1.5132297]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>File under &#8220;Stuff Donald Trump Knows, like, Tanstaafl&#8221;: Cuba starts widespread rationing of food and other basics</p>
<p><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cuba-food-shortage-rationing-1.5132297" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cuba-food-shortage-rationing-1.5132297</a></p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2019 14:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;this thread has actually bled into most all beliefs, even those that claim not, that they cant imagine “in these dirty times” such men exist… well, duh, they always exist, and they are always disliked, and they always draw fire onto themselves, and they always prevail on some level mysterious to the incognosenti of the left.&lt;/i&gt;

This reminds me.

&lt;i&gt;“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded—here and there, now and then—are&lt;b&gt; the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people.&lt;/b&gt; Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as ‘bad luck’.”

– Robert A. Heinlein&lt;/i&gt;

We are having a run of good luck right now.

I would be happy to see a landslide next year but I worry about &lt;a href=&quot;https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/59652.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; vote fraud.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>this thread has actually bled into most all beliefs, even those that claim not, that they cant imagine “in these dirty times” such men exist… well, duh, they always exist, and they are always disliked, and they always draw fire onto themselves, and they always prevail on some level mysterious to the incognosenti of the left.</i></p>
<p>This reminds me.</p>
<p><i>“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded—here and there, now and then—are<b> the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people.</b> Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.<br />
This is known as ‘bad luck’.”</p>
<p>– Robert A. Heinlein</i></p>
<p>We are having a run of good luck right now.</p>
<p>I would be happy to see a landslide next year but I worry about <a href="https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/59652.html" rel="nofollow"> vote fraud.</a></p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2019 14:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Jeff Brokaw.  His personality quirks are secondary, or maybe tertiary, issues.  What I think of is Donald Rumsfeld saying, &quot;You go to war with the army you have.&quot;  We&#039;re in a war to save the republic.  He&#039;s the general we&#039;ve got.  He&#039;s doing amazingly well.  My advice to Congressional Republicans is to quit complaining and work with him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jeff Brokaw.  His personality quirks are secondary, or maybe tertiary, issues.  What I think of is Donald Rumsfeld saying, &#8220;You go to war with the army you have.&#8221;  We&#8217;re in a war to save the republic.  He&#8217;s the general we&#8217;ve got.  He&#8217;s doing amazingly well.  My advice to Congressional Republicans is to quit complaining and work with him.</p>
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